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#1886914 06/04/07 07:34 PM
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Hub gave a his old used Tmobile cell phone to a girl at work. Thought this was strange, he never gives anything away. I asked about two weeks ago if she used it, he said yes, it was better than the one she had, he was sort of defensive about it. Only thing is I have the back of the phone and have had it. How would someone give someone a phone with no back and tell me it was better than she had? I want to ask what her name is "so I can give her something for the phone" she needs and see what response I get but I am afraid of making him mad. Any ideas?

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I moved this on advice from another poster.

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I dont know son, I am just as suspicious as you are but cant figure out why he would give this broken phone away. Is it a prepaid phone? Does it still have a phn number attached to it?

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Sas is fine. Thanks for the forum help, wasn't sure where to post exactly.

Not sure who she was, met in Texas at a bar while he was visiting family. We were going through ****** at the time, close to divorce. They talked on the phone all the time, that is how I found out, started checking who he was talking to all the time.

Everytime I think he is lying there is no basis for it. Maybe I am nuts, just suspicious? But this time it just doesn't sound right?

We all got new phones in Jan with another carrier. He always had a phone, I got one finally but don't care much to use it. His old phone wasn't in real great shape but usable. He said he gave it to a co-worker that had a crappy phone. At first I told him to make sure he erased his info, etc. About two weeks ago I found the back of the phone, he doesn't know. So I ask about a week ago how she liked the phone, did she use it or just use the SIMS card for a new phone and he said she used it, liked it, whatever. I asked why he gave her that phone because it wasn't in great shape and he said it was better than what she had. I am sitting there thinking "how can that be when I have the back of the telephone in my van?". How could a phone with no back be better? I didn't ask that but he seemed a little PO'ed that I asked a few more questions so I let it be. It still bothers me, makes no sense.
I think I have questioned him alot over the last few months but never got the real answers I was looking for so and then he thought I was distrustful, then I think I am crazy for thinking anything like it.

How about gashlighting? Know anything about that?
Nope no idea. Had marriage counseling onces, it was a distaster, the counselor was newly divorced and bitter.

Thanks I just almost wish I knew someone at TMobile to ask if he has an account I don't know of. I wonder if he turned the phone in for a private one but don't know how he would hide it.
I know this is all nuts. Sorry.

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Had marriage counseling onces, it was a distaster, the counselor was newly divorced and bitter.


That's fricken funny! That's when you ask yourself if it could possibly get any worse. LOL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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You have to pay for cell phones somehow. Follow the money.

You also might look at the free credit report agencies. They should indicate new accounts if they are in his name.

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Yep, you need to check out the phone bill. Do you have access to that?

How have you been doing at meeting his needs? How is he doing at meeting yours?

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Marriage counselors have a higher than normal rate of affairs and divorce. Funny that one. Most of those come from the "Feel good" about themselves school. Guess it doesn't work very well for them. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

There ARE some good ones out there like the Harleys.

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Call the phone...tomorrow

First, take a portable phone in your home and dial #67 to make the caller private...then walk around your home and your husbands car and see if it's ringing in there. I'm thinking HE's using it as HIS secret cell phone.

Try calling it from a pay phone and ask for, say, Alicia.

If no one answers...listen to the voicemail.

If no voicemail...try calling the phone FROM your husband's cell phone. If a female, coincidentally, picks up ONLY when your husband's cell calls he is busted.

If you don't have a number...check the caller ID log on your home phone. If you don't have a caller ID log...get one at Radio Shack or Wallmart for $10 and hook it up hidden somewhere in the house. Snoop your husbands cell phone and cell phone bills for numbers as well.

Anyway...while at Radio Shack pick up a voice activated digital voice recorder and hide it in husband's car.

Have you read the Spying 101 thread???

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If he has it it wouldn't be in the car, looked there. No idea of a number. Thought about the recorder but was worried they would make a noise and I would be busted.
Can't find the spying thread?

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Won't do any good if it shows only incoming calls. But will look anyway.

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Go to the Infidelity - Just Found Out Board.

Pinned to the top is the "For Newly Betrayed Spouses" Thread by Longhorn. Click on it and Longhorn's post is the first one there. At the bottom of Longhorn's post, in his signature line is a link to the Spying 101 thread.

DIGITAL recorders don't beep and make NO sound. Don't buy the cassette tape ones as they do make a little noise and the clarity of what they pick up is severely lacking.

Good luck,
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Thank you for the response here, SAS...I'm cutting and pasting my initial response to you from your thread in Other Topics:

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Can I call you Sas? Felt to me like hissing when I was acronymning your name.

Welcome back to MB...I looked up your February post and am quoting it here from over in the Resolving Conflict Forum. I think it's important to keep them together...this new post seems to reinforce the old one.


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I will try to keep this short. Married over 21 years, lots of issues. I was a refuser the majority of my marriage. This past Sept I got it finally and fell in love with spouse all over again and things have been pretty good, all around we are both happier. Right now I feel exhausted, he hurt my feelings in a discussion twice this week and I now feel like anything I say will be wrong. If I ask to many questions, I am nosey, not enough, I am disinterested. I talked about my friend a few times and her new boyfriend and for the life of me I don't know why it seemed to upset him. Right now we aren't speaking. I feel nuts sometimes. I have some major insecurity issues, alot of them brought on by his EA 4-5 years ago. He finally talked about if a few months ago, limited discussion, he didn't love her, it was just counselling to him, he was going to leave me but not for her. Its in the past, he didn't do anything wrong. I thought I could get passed it but it seems to haunt me terribly, I want to get it out of my system but don't feel I can ask any questions, will make him made. Lately I seem to question him alot about who his calling, at first he was flattered, now I stopped cause if just makes him mad I can't trust him. Other than his EA I don't think I have real reason not to. He is an excellent man, good husband, father. He prayed for years and stuck by me even though I wasn't a great wife. I was distant, resentful, cold. I want things to be good again. I don't want to fight anymore with him, I feel things are falling apart again. I also feel like I am doing all the work, is that my punishment for the years I refused him? I am so confused. When I try to explain my feelings he looks at me like I am nuts and has no answers. I wrote him trying to get everything out, he read it half heartedly and never really mentioned it. I need some direction, where to start, how to get over something that happened along time ago and should not keep coming back affecting me.


And now, I'm going to ask you to move your post over to Infidelity General Questions II...it's the forum which gets the most traffic and I believe a lot of your issues from the last five years are from infidelity...which can be in the mind, still makes it in the marriage.

This also pertains to the cell issue, as well.

Who did your WH have an A with four to five years ago with? Until you have reality...names (first and last), position, where they met, how they conducted this EA (through email, by cell, mail, pidgeon communications...in person, where, how, etc.)...then you can't get to the reality of his choices...nor heal yourself or your marriage.

Same for now...sounds like you know your WH lies to you. Otherwise, you won't be looking for proof of lies...dishonesty...exaggeration or discounting. That's my take. Is that what you're doing?

In both posts, you chose your actions/words based on his possible reaction. Would you say that's a reasonable, autonomous way to live? Or is that choice, to live that way, what hurts you at every turn?

Your WH can feel anger...doesn't mean the end of love. The opposite. He can feel frustration, fear, guilt, shame...lots of stuff...doesn't mean you're doing it to him. He feels it. Respect him to feel what he's gonna feel...his feelings come to him from his beliefs, which are about him and for him. Not you. If you are focused on managing his emotions...do you resent when he doesn't manage yours?

From what I read, in your half of the marriage, you have tolerated a lot of abuse...and given some. Would you like to learn how much power you have, from seeing what you choose and what you don't? Learn about boundaries, healthy marriages and thriving lives?

Have you guys had MC or IC in your 21-year marriage? How about home study guides, like Dr Harley offers? Do you read a lot about how to have a great marriage?

How about gashlighting? Know anything about that?

I ask all this because I sure didn't when I got here...and you are twice brave...to post in February with no response (Resolving Conflict has very little traffic); and brave again, posting today. Now you picked Other Topics...which has even LESS traffic than Resolving Conflict...and both of your posts (in my perception) were related to possible infidelity or affair-proofing your marriage. Are you afraid to post in GQ? Do you have a pattern of sabotaging what you want most?

I did. I'm not pointing fingers...and if you'll move your post to where you can get the most help...I'll follow and repost this reply, 'k?

You're worth the time, effort, interest and respect, Sas.

You can do this.

LA

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Sas,

About not knowing who his EA/PA with five years ago...would you consider you got in the way of his consequences? Where you reverse look up her number, find out who she is, expose to her family, including her husband/BF, whomever. Your part of acknowledging reality at that time.

What you didn't do then will help you now.

Same for your choice of MC's back then...see where changing MC's didn't seem to be an option for you. It was. I don't see how spouses recover without MC.

And now you know...getting passed something isn't the same as working through it.

LA


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