Yes, hawgs and alley cats in heat would agree with you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Well, this "prude" doesn't have to buy a dictionary, I have one online!

wh0re Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hawr, hohr or, often, hoor] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, wh0re, whor·ing.
–noun 1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet.


So you see, the definition of wh0re does not require that one get paid! Therefore, this definition would fit by your own admission. Lets call a spade a spade, why don't we? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Frankly, I have more respect for a prostitute than an unpaid wh0re. At least a prostitute is smart enough to get paid for putting out. You walk away empty handed for your services.

MelodyLane,


But that's just it - I DON"T walk away empty handed. I get a wonderful sexual experience and the knowledge that I made someone else feel good too. But the thing is, I want that experience with my husband. And that is why I'm here.

It's so sad that you think of sex as something only men can enjoy. You know if you have trouble with orgasms, there are ways to fix that. I can talk with you about it if you want to. There's no reason women can't have just as much fun during sex as men do.

This is so laughable! I respond to what YOU wrote and you see it as "all made up in my head." If this doesn't sound like a committed Wayward Wife.....??? Hear only what you want to hear.




Oh goody. Why was it wrong? Could it possibly have anything to do what Marriage is all about? What about sex with other unmarried men who are NOT your husband? As YOU said, SOME of the affairs were with married men, thus some were NOT married.






No it hasn't. YOU want to make it so, but we are talking about MARRIAGE. Don't confuse being single with being married and don't confuse LOVE with LUST.






Not in the least interested in talking about what you did or didn't do when you were SINGLE. This site, and even this thread, is about Marriage, not singlehood.






Hate to disagree with you, but yes it does. It advocates the individual is "god" and can do whatever they think is "right."





Yep, you sure do. Read on.





Yes you are. It really is plain to see.





hmmm....not in the least bigoted.

Of course I don't think of sex as something that only men can enjoy.

What is sad is that you don't understand that a woman does not have to be a wh0re to enjoy sex. Many women can and do enjoy sex without being wh0res. She doesn't have to be a hawg* to have a satisfying sex life.

*my apologies to hawgs for the comparison <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Aph, I just want you to know that I am not fooled by this false bravado.

You and I both know that happiness does not come from living like a skank. If you were so happy, you wouldn't be here. Happiness comes from living right.

You won't be able to shut up that screaming little voice deep down inside for long. I know you can hear it. It will get louder and louder and louder.

Wow...

Normally, I DETEST threads that are full of name calling.

This one is kinda fun tho...both sides are neck deep in it.

Why can't we all just get along? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


Oh, and please, mark me down as a "prude" as well. I seem to fit Aph's definition of such rather well actually. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Not bigoted? A few people who believe in God may have a differing opinion. You snidely chide "fundementalists" because you WANT to be able to do whatever YOU want to do, regardless of any "right or wrong."

As for your husband's comment about wanting someone who "knows what they are doing," he's certainly got that in you doesn't he? That's also, btw, a typical "reason" men give to enable THEM to have sex without any commitments.

Anyway, you can tell him when you confess your multiple adulteries that you were just trying to gain more experience for him so you will better "know what you are doing" in bed with him," assuming he can "perform" for you to your expectations. Otherwise you may have to go get some more knowledge to apply to your marriage.

Give me a break. You are so lost in yourself it's really quite sad.




Yes it is. And it's an EXCLUSIVE shared experience in marriage. If you don't want that, get a divorce and go back to your "single ways."





And now he has his heart's desire. Of course he had contempt for them. HE couldn't get is rocks off with them because they "answered" to a higher power than LUST and Selfishness. But now he has you...the "prize catch" of wives, complete with all your past, present, and future, "experience" to make his life so much better.





Secular Humanism and Moral Relativity at its best!





Yep, no doubt about it, you are very special. He "decided" to go monogamous...lol.

He got CAUGHT. His wife made it plain, Adultery is NOT acceptable in a marriage. Not ever.

That he stayed in contact with you is just typical fare for Wayward Spouses (which is what he was). That his wife won't expose only shows she has a lack of understanding. Why not invite her to this site and see how the members advise HER on how to handle the exposure question.

You have no regrets and no remorse.

Again, you ARE an Adulteress, despite your protestations that "this time" it will be different simply because you now think adultery is "wrong." Wrong according to who's Standards? Certainly not yours and certainly not the what the Word of God teaches. So who's Standard is "enough" to keep you from committing more adultery in the future when you NEXT "change your mind?"





Yep, you've made it abundantly clear that everyone who believes in FIDELITY in Marriage is a "prude" and you are right with your Moral Relativism.

And by the way, did I mention you've also made it abundantly clear that you are a bigot too?


"Sex is supposed to be a beautiful gift between 2 people who love each other."

In your bigotry you missed the whole point. That phrase is talking about MARRIAGE, not rutting around as you prefer confusing lust with love.

Nice try though.

So as a married person, if you firmly believe the above knowing its counter to all the Marriage Builder's principles (not to mention highly offensive to most members), WHY ARE YOU HERE?

I will put a call out to Larry here. If you know this womans forst and last name, please email it to me so that I can get the required info to contact her H myself. I am sick that this man is in the dark while this "woman" makes a fool of him by being the town ho.

Well you asked so I gonna tell you. If you want to work on yourself, here's where you start. The above in bold IS NOT a minor detail or simply collateral damage.

You might want to seriously consider you may not be a good candidate for marriage.

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

Gawd...I hope you teach any children that you have or might have better than this or they can expect to be procreating right and left.

Your daughter will be one of the little girls lined up to service the little boys behind the bleachers. And your son will be the one insisting on this pleasure from all the little girls. <gag>



"active sharing of life's most intense experiences" what kind of crock are you spewing????

Sounds like a really lame pickup line to me.

Why am I picturing that little dog that keeps wanting to hump your leg...and you cannot shake them off??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

committed

Adding...if you really felt this way...you would not be keeping it a secret from your H. I challenge you to TELL him now...he might be as understanding as you would be if he was out there doing his philanthropic duty. We need more altruistic people like you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

The more I read you Aph, the more I'm convinced you have a personal subconscious-axe to grind against males who use and objectify women. Its as though you're trying to prove you can sexually compete with them and/or are equal, thereby getting back at them. Big ole' chip on your shoulder.

Makes me believe you knew a male in your young life who abused you in some way, hence the chip.

Aph, do you really want to experience this with your husband? Will that be enough for you? Do you really want marriage and all that it means? Marriage is a relationship of EXTRAORDINARY CARE that includes ROMANTIC EXCLUSIVITY and PERMANANCE between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN-Those words in all caps are Dr. Harley's words regarding marriage-it is what is taught here...Is that what you want? If so, why? I'm not being flip with you, honestly, I'm asking a serious question that I think YOU very much need to consider the answer to...

See, I think, whether you realize it yet or not, that you use your sexuality as currency for male attention...You mistake that attention for admiration and adoration...I'm not saying that you or women in general don't enjoy sex...I can assure you that I am no prude...but I think that even you somewhere deep down realize that the kind of sex that you are exhaulting here is very empty and the satisfaction is quite short lived...If it was really as satisfying as you claim, you wouldn't still be searching, no, you would instead be basking in a self satisified glow and be ever so happy, and we both know that that is NOT the case, is it?

Drop the defenses Aph...Your anger and lashing out here I see as intense deep hurt...Do you agree?

Mrs. W

Aph - I didn't catch your age, do you mind telling me?

I used to think similar to you, now I don't. I don't know what changed me, but I no longer want to do "favors" like the ones you describe for these men. M

y xMM told me too that I woke him up to the fact he could have more in an R, that he is desirable. He claimed his wife didn't make him feel loved. After we broke it off him and his wife separated and later D'ed. He moved to another city and met yet another MW to get involved with. This OW actually left her H and now they are married and have a child. (Funny, he claimed he was sterile from testicular cancer... liar.) He got some big time job and moved his "new" family to Japan. His little boy from his first marriage almost never sees him. His 1st wife moved back home to some state up north. Even when he still living in Texas he hardly saw his son when he'd come down to visit. The little boy would stay with his grandparents. He proclaims he loves him, and I'm sure he does, he just loves himself more. He's the type that will always need his ego stroked, he thinks very highly of himself. Lord help his OW turned W... someday she'll be dealing with OW, I'd bet my right arm on it.

I'm curious... how would you feel if your H was the one doing this? Would it bother you at all? That's one thing that has changed about how I view all this. I do my best to treat my H the way I want to be treated.

Remorse detection meter pegged to the negative...

Aph, when/if you get to the point of feeling ANY remorse for what you've done, then you may be ready to START working on yourself.

Aph...

What is/was your relationship with your father like?

Mrs. W

ForeverHers,


And what makes you think that? Because Pat Robertson told you so? How many actual Secular Humanists do you know personally? I guarantee you didn't find it in any Secular Humanist document or from the words of any Secular Humanist. If you want to learn about other people's beliefs, you do NOT seek that information from the Christian Broadcasting Network. You seek it from people who actually have studied it.

And btw, you can't be a bigot just for disagreeing with Christianity or some other worldview. You're only a bigot if you think your religion has the market cornered on good behavior or you parrot lies about what others believe without asking them what they believe. I should know what I believe more than you would know. You don't see me telling you, well Christians believe this and Christians believe that.

But if you want to redeem yourself and prove your not a bigot, how about reading the Affirmations of Humanism? After all, I've read the Bible.

The Affirmations of Humanism Are Here:
http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=main&page=affirmations

The Affirmations of Humanism:
A Statement of Principles
We are committed to the application of reason and science to the understanding of the universe and to the solving of human problems.
We deplore efforts to denigrate human intelligence, to seek to explain the world in supernatural terms, and to look outside nature for salvation.
We believe that scientific discovery and technology can contribute to the betterment of human life.
We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities.
We are committed to the principle of the separation of church and state.
We cultivate the arts of negotiation and compromise as a means of resolving differences and achieving mutual understanding.
We are concerned with securing justice and fairness in society and with eliminating discrimination and intolerance.
We believe in supporting the disadvantaged and the handicapped so that they will be able to help themselves.
We attempt to transcend divisive parochial loyalties based on race, religion, gender, nationality, creed, class, sexual orientation, or ethnicity, and strive to work together for the common good of humanity.
We want to protect and enhance the earth, to preserve it for future generations, and to avoid inflicting needless suffering on other species.
We believe in enjoying life here and now and in developing our creative talents to their fullest.
We believe in the cultivation of moral excellence.
We respect the right to privacy. Mature adults should be allowed to fulfill their aspirations, to express their sexual preferences, to exercise reproductive freedom, to have access to comprehensive and informed health-care, and to die with dignity.
We believe in the common moral decencies: altruism, integrity, honesty, truthfulness, responsibility. Humanist ethics is amenable to critical, rational guidance. There are normative standards that we discover together. Moral principles are tested by their consequences.
We are deeply concerned with the moral education of our children. We want to nourish reason and compassion.
We are engaged by the arts no less than by the sciences.
We are citizens of the universe and are excited by discoveries still to be made in the cosmos.
We are skeptical of untested claims to knowledge, and we are open to novel ideas and seek new departures in our thinking.
We affirm humanism as a realistic alternative to theologies of despair and ideologies of violence and as a source of rich personal significance and genuine satisfaction in the service to others.
We believe in optimism rather than pessimism, hope rather than despair, learning in the place of dogma, truth instead of ignorance, joy rather than guilt or sin, tolerance in the place of fear, love instead of hatred, compassion over selfishness, beauty instead of ugliness, and reason rather than blind faith or irrationality.
We believe in the fullest realization of the best and noblest that we are capable of as human beings.

--And ForeverHers, I meant it when I said I won't tolerate intolerance of my beliefs. I accept that you are Christian; you must accept that I am a Secular Humanist. If you can't do that I will put you on my ignore list indefinitely.

NOT FH, but please put ME on your ignore list. But keep in mind that you will NOT ignore the King of Kings come judgement day and for that I am sorry for you.

From Penalty Kill


Bingo.

This one question is worth a thousand wh0re/rutting/pig pen comments.

Aph, this question deserves some thought.

PK