One of the things we cannot control ....

We can put our stories out "there" out "here"

offering a road map that worked for us

who reads it
who uses it

is out of our control

if you posted how to host a wonderful birthday party for your young daughter - a party that made every girl-guest who attended happy - it is possible a child predator could read your shared experience - and use it to their advantage

no control

Bob, you are not held accountable for unknowingly and unwillingly helping someone maintain a situation you cannot condone

It has happened to me countless times

It is happening today, on this board

if you line up the people who have marriages that you have helped ... it is a long long line .... some folks in that line may be most distasteful to you personally

it cannot be helped because you have no control over who reads your words

ARE YOU AWARE THAT TOW MEMBERS READ MB PLAN A AND PLAN B AND USE IT TO THEIR ADULTEROUS ADVANTAGE??? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

however, the good outweighs the bad

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Pep

I know you're right. But it summons up all kinds of feelings about myself that I am really not comfortable with:

Naive
Abetting
Careless

Those are not attributes I like to see in myself. I chide myself for them.

Thing is, I have offered personal advice to friends and folks I know for years, but that really is targeted.

MB is the first body of useful stuff ( and ramblings !) to help folks that I ever assembled. I never dreamed that such as I might be used to help others, but I am very happy that it is so. It is some good that came out of a not good situation meant for ill.

But it really stings to know that the words I dug out of my caring soul to help somebody is used by somebody whom i would not assist makes me sort of angry; sort of betrayed. You know what I mean ?

At least, as I say, my words are not "magic bullets" like Dr Harley's - they're just the ramblings of an ordinary bloke, but still it stings.

Immature of me I know.

Affair marriages just jump from the page to me as offensive in this place, and I am amazed that others do not see it so. Its not a slight variation of dogma here, it is utter black and and white WRONG to me. It is unusual for me to see so differently to others.

Thanks for the "incorrige"ment <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />pep.

The irony of applying MB concepts (which ARE Biblically-based according to the Harleys, by the way) to non-biblical relationship .... is jaw-dropping !

Showing massive disrespect for Biblical Marriage means .... you will not have a Biblical Marriage.

You will have something less wonderful than a Blessed Biblical Marriage.

No worries Bob .... be assured, someone else ^^^^ looking upwards ^^^^ is in control here

[color:"red"]well, D U H ..... yeah ! [/color]

do you KNOW how many times I have cringed when

"Pepperband's Carrot and Stick" has been offered to the most nasty/unredeemable situation?

and this is one of my favorite bits I enjoy in you

says the same of me <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Bob, Pep said:



~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Ace Waving ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

(me mee meeeee!) <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

You both have helped save my/our marriage. Please don't stop taking the huge risk you are committed to. I'm sure you've helped many more who don't attempt to return the favor or even say thanks for whatever reason.

I should change my name to Forever Indebted....b/c I am...... to all MB Veterans....I wanna be like you when I grow up!

"Thanks" just does not seem enough!

From the depths of my heart,
Ace

BTW, you know it was an unlikely miracle to have Squid work with me on a marriage building ministry ?

Guess who's volunteered for some missionary work in Albania through our church <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

well put, pep.

Ace

There was a terrorist attack on Glasgow airport yesterday. Suicide bombers so stupid they didn't check that the door of the airport was wide enough to take the car they tried to crash through it first.

Civilians saw the bombers running away from the blazing wreck, and tackled them, holding until the police arrived.

Floods are devastating parts of the beautiful north of England. People are being offered warm refuge in strangers homes apropos of nothing.

God uses the nobility He placed within each of us to ensure some generous outcome ensues from even the most dreadful calamity IME.

That Pep and and I crawled from our own wreckage and decided to help others out of their wreckage is a Glory to God , not to us.

But thanks anyway <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> * smiles *

Dear, Dear "Bubba" Bob and Pep...Agree and Adore you both!

Mrs. W

(((BP and Squid))) God does have a plan doesn't he? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Bob, I agree with you.

But like you keep telling me, you are not responsible for their decisions or their choices. When you extend a helping hand, if it is slapped away or used against you or for immoral purposes you cannot control that. Please, my firend remember all the ppl that you hav ehelped and I count myself as one, they desperately needed your counsel and it was a lifeline for us.

Bob,

I do give God the glory, but I realize that God does not force MB Veterans like you and Pep and Mrs. W and others helping on these boards to do so....and I just wanted to let you know how much we appreciate your choice to contribute to all readers.

I'm sure I speak for many others...the line is indeed a long one, Pep. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Ace

Hey Bob,

Comptelely off topic (my apologies Pep), but wasn't there car bombs also discovered earlier this week? Seems we may have thwarted 2 of a planned 3 prong terrorist strike against us.

Res

Yes indeed. There was a car bomb in Haymarket, then another timeds to go off amids the retreating crowds, evacuated from the scene of the first bomb.

Nice huh?

Our forensics teams are learning absolutely tons about the bombers having two complete , undetonated units and arrests have already been made.

The terror has caused....absolutely no panic to us. The concert for Diana goes ahead as planned in Central London, and Glasgow airport has reopened.

If the Luftwaffe didn't break us , the IRA didn't break I'm darn tootin' these folks aren't going to.

EVEN FURTHER OFF TOPIC (& somewhat trivial):

Jo,

FWH just said that the Seattle Mariner's baseball manager just resigned abruptly, unexpectedly for ambiguous reasons.

You're an athelete in over/up in WA state, aren't you? Any ideas why? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Just curious.

Ace

Oh and by the way Bob, hope you're not smoking a cigar indoors. Feel you're almost breaking into a Winston Churchill "Fight them on the beaches" kinda thing there.

LOL CEG !

Dare not smoke here mate. I hear that the main reason they nicked the attackers at Glasgow airport was smoking in a public place <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

That's just so *wrong* on so many levels <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

JinGA