What on earth werre you thinking about how graphic your explanation was to Mimi on your now locked down thred?
I don't care one ioata about the P****** match you and Mel got into, but I would really like an explantion of how you thought it was OK for you to graphically explain to hurting BS about how their WS "inserted their penis into another women."


I don't post very often anymore. In spite of 5 years since DDay. But your post was the most disrespectful thing I have ever read on these forums.

People here try to help each other. Your motive for these quotes, smacks of something very different. Emotional impact? Nice going, you have achieved your purpose of once again stabbing all BS's in the back. I suspect, I am not the only one feeling this way, just the only one who has voiced objection!!!!!

I always thought you had some good things to add to this forum, but sometimes, your radical opinion is detrimental. Did you ever consider that? Or is this beyond your comprehension?

Why don't you give all the BS's here a break, and leave those images, that we all have to live with, in the past?

All Blessings,
Jerry

hey Jerry... if you want to speak to me speak to me... if you want to spout off... bug off. And I don't think it was a graphic explanation.... as far as my radical opinion... sorry Jerry, I think you are way off base so therefoe your view means little to me.
Frankly with the exception of a few people and ones like you that always like to jump into something to give me a piece of your mind, I found much support for the things I said.
Jerry, you can continue this thread all you like...but you are not deserving of any more of an explanation from me.

Bye Jerry.

and Jerry... one last thing... outside the context of that discussion, I am sorry that those words bothered you.

they are to me... much less graphic than many of the terms used here very frequently...
rutting like pigs...sorry that one sounds a lot worse to me. there have been others using the f*** word with little stars as I have noted here.... sorry if mine was too [color:"red"] clinical [/color] for you...but I find it less offensive than other ways of saying it. Much less offensive.

Well, it is as you would see it. I have no illusion about changing yor mind about the sensibilties(sp) that you impart.

It's just that I have seen so much more about you that speaks of of sympathy and empathy.

Why the complete alianation to every BS that exists on these forums? I',m 5 years past DDay, and your graphic words, cut me to the core. Did you consider that it might happen to BS, whether old or new?
And for the record, I am speaking to you, and you alone!!!!

All Blessings,
Jerry

Jerry... as I said, I consider the way I described it to be less offensive than other ways described here. That is my opinion... so should I speak in a way that you consider less offensive... or in a way that I consider is less offensive.

And you really shouldn't speak for every BS.... I know having been one, the clinical way to describe it is a lot less offensive than "rutting with pigs" to ME. If it isn't to you, I would suggest that you may want to put me on ignore as I cannot say I won't use that phrase again in the future.

I understand what you are saying and exactly who you are talking about.
I am for myself, trying to desperately forgive my WW, so I don't presupose that I have any real answers. But stabbing BS's in the back with your hateful words are not contribating to the health and wellness of BS's here in general.

Would appreciate your comments.

All Blessings,
Jerry

once again Jerry... you are running at the mouth...and not hearing me

I am not stabbing anyone by choosing what I consider to be the less offensive words...they are not hateful to me or many others in the least... I might consider rutting like pigs, which has been used frequently here by many people hateful, that doesn't make it hateful

that you feel stabbed, does not in fact mean I stabbed you.
and once again, I have gotten feedback from other BS that do not view this as you do. If you wish to IGNORE these facts, I am through discussing this with you.

and no, Jerry, you do not know who I am talking about... you might know some... but there were also quite a few emails that were sent my way too... some people just decide to stay out of the fray and that is their choice.
again, if YOU are injured by my words, I would suggest that you take full advantage of the ignore feature in the future as I will not rule out using what I consider to be very appropriate language.

your circular arguments here are reflective of a recent discussion I had so I will not participate any longer.

Try ignore Jerry.

gentlemen,

As someone with no dog in this fight, I'd like to suggest that you guys start over.

Jerry.....I understand that you found medc's phrasing hurtful and triggering. It's okay to say so. It's okay to express how you feel so that he can understand how his phrasing may hurt others.....but it's disrespectful to assign motives or to make him responsible for your feelings. Ultimately, you choose whether to read a post, and while you may have a reaction....it's your health that determines how much you allow words on an anonymous board to affect you. I sympathize with your feelings....often the graphic language affects me too.

medc.....I hope you can see past the judgment and resist getting defensive in this instance. Of course you didn't mean to hurt Jerry....but the fact is....that you did and he's telling you so. It's okay to say....hey buddy....I'm sorry that it hurt you because it sure was't directed at you. Why do you get so angry when someone challenges you? It doesn't mean you're "wrong" and it's okay to have compassion for others....EVEN IF....you were unaware of how your words may affect others. Yes, it was less offensive than other phrases....no doubt....but that doesn't mean it wasn't offensive at all to some people. When you refuse to acknowledge someone else's feelings....then it makes it look even more like you were "trying" to be offensive....when in fact....I don't think you were. "Defensiveness" (and it permeates your posts), can be a sign of insecurity or low self esteem. That isn't what you want to project! And it's not who you are! Why do you let people push your buttons? Compasssion....makes you a bigger man, a man of more character, a man who recognizes that words are powerful. How long would this discussion go on if you simply said: "Jerry, I'm so sorry that my words hurt you. I didn't mean to hurt you....thanks for telling me." Maybe you'd just rather have another "p*ssing" contest?

Why would you consider ignoring these facts unless you felt it was somehow offensive?

MEDC, you could have responded TO MEMI in so many ways that were actually helpful, instead of provoking her worst nightmares.

Instead, you chose the most hurtful and dramatic approuch you could take, to drive your point home!!! Nice going, I'm sure you achieved your purpose! The destruction of another human being seems to be nothing to you!!

On the other hand, you made your very rightous point, didn't you? At the expense of whoever you hurt in the meantime!!

J

your circular arguments here are reflective of a recent discussion I had so I will not participate any longer.

Try ignore Jerry.

What a cop out!!!!

You are nothing less than a coward, if you cannot defend your statements, and explainn exactly why you would purposefully stab a BS in the back with your "rightous" statment of how a WS would "Insert his penis into another women.'

THIS IS THE MOST DIRESPECTFUL THING I HAVE EVER VIEWED ON THIS FORUM IN FIVE YEARS OF VIEWING!!!

I am beginning to think that MEL hade you pegged right in the first place!!!!

SF, I apologized to Jerry in the third post on this thread.

here it is again

and Jerry... one last thing... outside the context of that discussion, I am sorry that those words bothered you.

they are to me... much less graphic than many of the terms used here very frequently...
rutting like pigs...sorry that one sounds a lot worse to me. there have been others using the f*** word with little stars as I have noted here.... sorry if mine was too clinical for you...but I find it less offensive than other ways of saying it. Much less offensive

But much more important, you meant nothing less than they were trying imply: did you not????

J

MEDC,
I am done here! I truly don't know why I ever posted here again.

enjoy your tenure here. I have never had the compassion here that I thought might happen, but that is my own problem.

Take care, and contiue to be honest,

All blessings,
Jerry

ok, I'm outa here for a while, but I would love to explore why it is you cannot forgive anyone. Your attitude suggests that in spite of the implication that we are all sinners, but it is not somehow our obligation to forgive all sin.

This is going to be a very big decision for me.


All Love,
Jerry

Jerry

Are you saying that Mimi's H and your W had an affair ?

If so, then I can see how MEDCs words would cut you to the very core.

By Grace Squid and I are doing better than in three years yet some physical images still haunt me. MEDCs words stung ME and the OW he alluded to was not actually my W, only by analogy. But it still stung.

In truth Jerry, it is the fact of the physical betrayal that hurts us, not the words, however unkindly ment, and emotively hurled that strikes at us IMO.

You and I and all BS ( and WS I guess) must find a way to live in a world full of people who use emotive words to shock us that actually hurt us.

These boards and the wider world is not lacking people like MEDC(IMO) who seem to believe their right to free speech means no need for tact or diplomacy , and therefore never any requirement for heartfelt and total apology either.

I am sad you were hurt today, jerry. I was hurt too.

Then I looked to my baby, making me and the kids dinner, singing along to Robbie Williams, barefoot and happy and I found a reason to set that hurt to one side for another season.

All blessings.

I do not think it should be the words or MEDC that you all are angry with.

In the end, it was the ones we love the most that made those words sting....

I appreciate your speaking up in support of me, Jerry.

I just want to let you know, REALLY, that I personally have not been hurt by MEDC' words on that thread. I have my own continuing REAL MEMORIES that HURT to the core that's for sure. But I'm not HURT by his statement of FACT.

I didn't even know that he said that to me..that my H stuck his penis in another woman?..that doesn't hurt me.. My H did do that...DUH...LOL

Check out what causes any hurt feelings I may have about the forum on the BRAMBLEROSE thread if you're interested.

Don't leave the forum without me getting to know you. Share your story. I don't know about it. Okay?

Hi bob and MIMI,
I'm sorry if I went off on a tangent a bit here, but I think there is a certain protocal that should be followed.
And as a recovered and respected poster here, Bob, why should you or I have to be affronted by the uncaring and unthouthful posts of someone who has elevated themself to a position and pedestal of "I know what to say and how to say it."

MEDC is no longer married; you and I recovered our M out the dust and ashes that remained after Dday. I remember you story all too well. I'm sure mine is smewhat more obscure. I don't know if it even exists on this forum any more

I'm simply saying that MEDC needs to understand, that he can skip the "graphics" of the betrayal that those of us had to endure, and perhaps, still do, to this day.

I thought his words to be a complete affront to all BS, whether he thought so or not.

BTW, the greek islands are the most beatifull thing I've ever witnessed. And I at least have one son married off. (LOL)

Sure it was grindfool, but I don't need the likes of MEDC to put it in full video replay for me, and I think other BS might also agree.
JMVHO
All Blessings,
Jery