I found out with a simple keylogger that she is having an affair 4 months ago... now she's gone into super-secretive mode. I removed the keylogger I installed, but I am fairly positive she has installed a spying program on our computer. Now, if I re-install my spying program, her spy program will probably detect that. Right?

I know there is a hardware keylogger that plugs into your keyboard cord that I could get, but I want more than a simple keylogger. Does anyone know of a similar hardware device (no installation software = no detection) that plugs into the video monitor cord, to record screenshots or like a second monitor? Like maybe split the monitor signal to run one to the regular video screen, and one to an internal recorder?

Lastly, any good threads on the forums on computer spying? Any hlep is greatly appreciated!!!!!!!

You are correct -- the hardware keylogger will simply record keystrokes. Don't dismiss this as useless.

The only device I know if that would facilitate recording screenshots from a video feed would be a frame capture device that you'd have to split or route her video feed through. This would be very obvious and cumbersome.

If you use a hardware keylogger, you can get her admin/root password.

With this, re-install a good software keylogger and then tell her anti-virus/spyware software to "ignore" spyware or keyloggers.

You can also install it, run her AV software and when/if it detects your keylogger, tell it to ignore it "forever".

This might keep it hidden long enough to get needed data.

There is a Spying 101 thread on GQII or Just Found Out forums.

Good luck.

If you're somewhat computer saavy, do a CTRL + ALT + DEL, and look for a process running that you don't recognize. Do a search online for each of the processes running until you find the one that's her spyware...and then end that task when you want to do your install.

And anytime you want to go in and look at your keylogger...just end her task.

You shouldn't even need her password for it that way.

Restart the computer anytime you're done, and it should restart her spyware when it comes back up.

Artor, thanks for your help!

I can't find the Spying 101 thread <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Tried a search... anyone able to find it??

Also I am interested in screen capture, does anyone know how to split the signal to the mnitor? And what device to use to record it? Other than software...
Thanks!!!

Owl,
great idea! Thank you... that should work, as long as I am wikked careful!!!

Longhorn is the author of spying 101 - look for any of his posts and click on the link in his signature.

Here it is if it works.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/sho...rt=all&vc=1

The technique suggested by Artor will usually work.

Larry

You don't need to do that stuff. You go into the spy protection software and instruct it to ignore your keylogger. There are commercial spy programs that will allow you to record what is being done on the computer. Configure the computer so that the program is ignored by spy protection software. It should be under options.

BD- That makes sense...if he's got the login to the computer spyware. From the sounds of it, he doesn't know for sure what she's got on the computer...and even if he knows what it is, if she was smart she passworded it to prevent exactly what you described.

If he CAN do what you suggest, that would work perfectly. But he's saying he thinks SHE has a keylogger on there, and would see when he installs HIS keylogger...make sense?

Then get a hardware keylogger and go to a library and log in to her accounts. I wish I had done that with my ex instead of using my home systems.

Once you're in, print out all the messages and don't tip your hat that you know what you know. I did this very soon and should have had the discipline to keep the info to myself for several days while I printed out the information.

His concern is that installing HIS keylogger will show up on HER spyware? Make sense? She'll see that he installed it, and should have HIS passwords...all of which would be viewable in HER spyware. Going to the library doesn't solve that problem. He needs unmonitored access to HER computer to install and access his keylogger.

Once he's got that, remote access into her accounts would be an option.

I bumped "MY" (LOL) spying 101 thread. It's in this "the GQ II" formum.

But , Artor's and others are correct. You should try installing the software logger, then run the spyware software. If/When the spyware is caught by the anti-spyware "LOL", set it to ignore. next time it should pass it by without a hickup.

I would run the anti-spyware after you have set this rule to ensure results.

-JKT

If she did install spyware, then she either told her AV software to ignore it or just tells it to not take any action everytime it detects it.

So, you can either go into the configuration of ther AV software and see if she configured it to ignore her keylogger or just run a full scan yourself (before installing yours) to see if hers shows up.

Then you'll be able to deal appropriately.

Oops, sorry.

Larry

No worries Larry, I assure you if Longhorn would have wrote it... It would have been much better written! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I don’t know why I keep getting credit for your Spying 101 thread, JKT. You did that thread perfectly. It has tons of excellent information in it and that’s why I include a link to it in my signature area. You did good, pardner.

OB6969, there’s a pretty good discussion of software and hardware keyloggers in JKT’s thread so it gives you a great place to start. Let me suggest you could also get invaluable assistance in something like this by finding a computer guru where you work or in your neighborhood. Someone always knows someone who knows someone else who heard that someone knows everything about computers and software and stuff like that. When you find that person, explain what’s happening to your marriage, and enlist the individual as a soldier in your war on the obscenity of infidelity. Don’t be shy about it. If you’re honest with that individual, you’ll gain an ally—someone who can sit with you while you install whatever works best for you.

Also, there may be a store in your community that specializes in surveillance equipment. Such “Spy Emporiums” have clerks who’ve heard it all and you can get some excellent advice and gear from such places.

Failing that, find yourself a local private investigator who specializes in electronic surveillance. He or she will know exactly what to do and probably can suggest techniques you and I would never think of.

Find the option that works for you, friend, and get busy busting up this adultery, okay?

LH

Thanks everyone for the great ideas!

Just to note, many keylogger programs are NOT detected by antivirus/anti-spyware programs. In fact the one I used was www.download.com/Keylogger-Douglas and I could not even detect it myself with a keylogger detection program! So, she could have a keylogger spying on me re-installing my keylogger.

I like Owl's suggestion, to find running processes with ctrl-alt-delete and stop her keylogger. Haven't tried it yet but I will. Hope it shows up there though...

There has GOT to be a simple way to split and record the video signal to the monitor.... could be done inside the puter so no visible signs, and not detectable by software. Still searching!!

I would imagine a continuous recorder would be a resource hog, and unless specifically designed to run stealth easily detectable.

My experience with ctl-alt-del (Task manager) is you will find a resource line under the processes tab, but nothing under Apps. From there is just a matter of ID'ing the EXE files. A typical google will quickly ID the program the file is associated with.

Exactly what I was saying, JKT.

And as far as recording her video...that would be insanely resource intensive.

Many keyloggers do have a periodic 'screenshot' feature, that has an adjustable interview on the frequency of the screenshots. That's likely your best bet.

Thanks guys... I searched all the Processes I could find running, and nothing suspicios at all <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I am almost sure she is checking up on my computer useage somehow.... Which, by the way is clean and honest, except for wanting to re-install the software to spy on her. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... any other way she can detect it, if I re-install my keylogger spyware?

Yes...install AD-Aware or some similar anti-spyware software and use it to detect what she's got installed. If you already have something along these lines installed, take a look at what programs its currently set to ignore (as someone else suggested earlier).

If she asks why you're installing something like that, simply tell her that you're doing so to keep your computer 'clean', and prevent spyware, pop-ups, etc...

If you don't find anything through that route, and nothing shows in your processes, then she's probably not using spyware, but manually looking through history/cookies/etc... to see what she can find.

BTW, that manual search was how I'd found that my wife was still in contact with OM during her online EA. I found cookies for e-card sites with his info in them. I deleted the cookies...and found them on her computer AGAIN later...indicating that she'd sent him an e-card and repopulated the information.