WW has made sure she maintained her own cell phone. Even as the “family phone (one shared by the kids) has now grown to three phone. One for me and one for each kid. She continently did not think to ask what it would cost to just get her a new phone. She did a 2 yr renewal of her old plan. “Family” plan is month to month no contract and works out fine. I have coverage lots of times when she does not.

So how do I get my hands on her detailed bill? I looked at the company web site. It would be very easy to sign up for online access. Problem is they text the initial pass word to the phone. Next problem is W phone is locked with pin. Paper copy of the bill is always grabbed and hidden away. The few times I have seen it is does not have detailed billing anyway.

Suggestions??

Explain what has been going on. It sounds like she is definitely hiding something. We obviously won't know for sure until we here the old story or give us a link to your OP.

Who is paying for this 'phone'?

L.

Someone without anything to hide, does NOT go through those kind of hoops.

Major red flag.

JinGA

I type poorly and when I am in a hurry I will not take time to cut to word doc and back to here.

WW pays for it most of the time. She works in retail sales. Makes just enough money to cover cost of clothing and few other items.

Long story been going on since 1999.
Where would you like to start her EAs her PA, her wanting to move to another state with the kids to be near OM when my job had me moving.

Looking for proof of contact. Cell phone seems best way. She does not use email.

what is OP?

How many affairs has she had? WHAT has been going on since 1999?

Beenalongtime--

The cell phone issue, as the other posters are keying on, is really a symptom of potentially a larger problem.

Listen to them, dialog with them and take advantage of their wisdom.

Your wife is clearly protecting something -- you'll find all sorts of info here regarding Privacy vs. Secrecy in a marriage.

As for the cell phone.....many providers have a "Master Unlock Code" for the times when you forget your PIN. You could try to socially engineer this out of some young tech support or sales person at one of their stores. You might also GOOGLE her provider and/or phone type to see if someone has posted such information on the web.

Another option is a SIM card reader/hacking software. Assuming her phone has a SIM card, it would take a few seconds to clone it and then hack the PIN. Do a GOOGLE on these keywords and you might find out what you can do.

Good luck.

Artor

The goggle results seems more aimed at making a phone able to be used on different service providers.
A tip to the local service provider stand could prove interesting.

I would first "borrow" her sim chip, and place it in another phone, just to see what info I could gather the quick and easy way.

If you're unable to gain access to online billingor any useful info off the sim... Where do you suspect she uses the phone if/when she's talking "privately"?

is the bill in her name? is it verizon wireless? maybe you can go to a retail store and say your list bill never came, can you get a copy of it. or copy mailed out?

Thought about pulling the sim: seems risky
If pin check setting is in sim then won't the same need for pin come up in second device?

Yes, I have considered a recording device under car seat. I am skeptical about if it would really work vs just pick up radio and road noise.

Hard to record her when she is on the cell pacing in the back yard.
I usually see this when I come home unexpected