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Well, I guess it is past time to go through my wonderful experience in Court. lol <<< sarcasm.

Day ONE:

When I got to Court, I had TWO BIG surprises. The first being that it really was a TRIAL rather than an informal Chambers meeting. So I stood in the front of the courtroom with Dork's lawyer while he sat in the gallery.

The Judge was terrific. Calm and kind and often questioned Dork and me while we were under oath. She really seemed to sift through the BS that he spouted. And asked some pointed questions. Even rolled her eyes a few times at some of his drivel! lol.

Because this was Dork's Divorce action, i.e. he was the Plaintiff, their side got to go first.

The second BIG surprise was the first words out of his lawyer's mouth, in her opening statement, was that along with the Divorce, Dork wanted the Judge to order an injunction against me so that I could not contact him at work! GRRR!!! The reason being, according to her and Dork's testimony was that me faxing him had caused his "employer" to "warn" Dork that he could be fired for my actions as he was becoming an "Administrative Burden"

TO say I was both shocked and FURIOUS is a bit of an understatement. Especially since Dork has said for the past two frickin' years that he didn't care if I sent a fax. And on top of that, I only sent faxes AFTER oh say 10 emails that he ignored about financial issues. AND I have spoken to both his immediate bosses and waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy up the chain of command. ALL of them have told me to contact them and even offered suggestions on who else to contact if "Dork didn't get his head out of his [censored]!!!!" More on that later.

So Dork gets on the stand. says his name and his age. And OMG!!!! He got his age wrong by two years!!!! lol. Even after prompting by his lawyer, he still didn't clue in how old he really is. roflmao.

He then proceeded to give the lamest excuses as to how he was "fed up" and decided to leave after his time at see in 2004. GRR!!!! I was making notes furiously. He insisted that September 2004 was when he decided he "had had enough" and wanted a divorce. No mention of DP3 or DP4. Just that he didn't like being broke. And he looked so pathetic. Like he was the frickin' victim.

And then he said some stuff about how I called him names, some of which he said he couldn't repeat and others that he didn't understand like "freeloader" ROFLMAO. I guess he heard the stuff about Buyers and Renters etc. And that he was sick of me telling him he had issues. He said he went to see the counsellor and that SHE told he had no issues and that there was no point in counselling! GRRR!!!! LIAR!!!!!!!

When I said that, I got up and said that I objected to that as it was hearsay with no affidavit or letter confirming that the counsellor said this. And the Judge agreed and told Dork's lawyer that SHE should know better than to lead her client in this direction. Dork also mentioned that his "employer" TOLD him that they would ignore me and that it was up to Dork to stop me from contacting them AS if anyone would believe that crap! The military doesn't operate like that. Even up here. lol. The Judge rolled her eyes at this crap! lol.

Then it was my turn to cross examine him. First question I asked was how old he was. He still got it wrong. So I had to change the question to "Dork, is it not true that you are 45 - not 47?" He agreed. [censored]!

Then I asked him if he recalled returning from sea and coming home to his family.He said yes. I then asked him if he recalled the conversation that we had on the way back to the ferry at the end of the leave. And did he ask me and DD15 to move back to Victoria. He said yes. So there goes that separation date out the window. GRRR!!!!. Then I brought up the being broke all the time. And I brought up his partying and spending our mortgage money on partying and his apology on that. Showing that being broke was his doing too!!!! He had implied that I spent all the money on myself and stole his money to buy a computer and other non-necessities.

I also addressed me contacting him at work and him agreeing he had told me I should and could. I also introduced into evidence his signed agreement to give me all the funds from the house witnessed by a lawyer. And his signed agreement to co-sign a new mortgage for me. His excuse? He didn't know what he was signing. I countered by asking him if it was true that the lawyer had told him to get independent legal advice if he wanted to. He admitted that. SHEESH!!!!!

He also had no clue as to what our life insurance policy meant as he thought that if he croaked, I would get everything and if I croaked my kids would get everything. Sheesh! It was a mutual policy. [censored]!!!!

And I got him to admit that a large portion of the debt was his outstanding cell phone bill form 2001 and his previous adultery. GRR!!!!! AND that the computer was done WITH his permission as a gift to me for his running up a huge bill. And that the computer was not 5K but less than half of that. And that I had Power of Attorney and that hewn he was at sea I had his permission to pay bills as he could not do that when he was away often as long as 10 months in a year.

The Court Clerk told me on a break that I did really well and was better prepared than a lot of lawyers. lol.

And that was the end of day one. I went home and got more stuff to bring to court the next day...........


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Good girl. I'm REALLY impressed. Many blessings as you go through this. Remember, you are not alone.

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Hey FAA! Great Job!!! You go girl! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Thanks B. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> How are you? I am so happy that I can see an end to this stuff. I have a new great job that I love and I am so ready to move on.


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Hey, FA-A! I'm sorry you have to go through this at all, but you are doing an AMAZING job and I'm impressed, too...and proud of how you've handled everything! Yup, I do believe you are going to come out of this shining even brighter than before!
Staying tuned for the next installment!!!

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So, on to the second day......

Dork was back on the stand. He admitted his first A. He admitted that he saw our daughter at most six times in the last two years for at most 2 hours at a time. And that he rarely answered emails. And that I faxed him only after repeated attempt to get answers.

The Judge told me that I could not cross examine as to "character" as she was there to only deal with the financial. I apologised and said it was to show his pattern of behaviour. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Then it was my turn on the stand. YIKES! It was intimidating. But I was mad enough that I was ready for almost anything.

Almost the first question out of her mouth was the date of separation. She asked about the dates. I explained that we started seeing each other after him and DP3 broke up. And that we did so until I found out about DP4!!!! SO I got DP4's name on court records.

I then got asked if I was religious.I said yes, I was a Christian. She asked me if I got MORE religious since this started. I said of course I did as I found that the supporters of family values and thought adultery was not a good decision were Christians and "walked the walk".

I then got asked about using words for DP4 like ****** with conversations with DD15. I said yes I used that NOUN. She said that didn't sound very "Christian". I said "Actually this is the term that DD15 hears in school during Bible studies as that is what the Bible calls women who commit adultery with married men. As I said it, I looked straight at Dork and he hung his head. DUH!

His lawyer stopped that line of questioning. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

She asked if I insisted on being present when DD15 met with Dork. I said "I have answered this question before. There was a report from the counsellor on DD15's wishes that I be present at ALL meetings. She has told Dork that she will NOT see him without me. I am honouring HER wishes"

Then we went round and round a bit about the actual date of separation. I finally turned to the Judge and addressed her/. I said; "Your Ladyship, in the interests of getting this settled I did not ask for affidavits or witnesses to the truth of the dates. But, I did tell both of my counsellors AND my lawyer at the time. AND DD15 and DD27 were present when we resumed our relationship. AND When we visited with Dork in Victoria, his landlord was there and KNEW where I slept. I can and will supply affidavits if necessary to show that this was not a secret or a one time thing. "

The Judge asked why I was so insistent on the date of separation. I told her that I was not going to lie for Dork or pretend that we were not in a marital relationship. She told me it would not be necessary to produce witnesses or further affidavits.

Then there was a break. But I remained on the stand. Thank Goodness. Because once you leave there is no further evidence allowed to be admitted! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

During this time, I was looking over my notes and realized that there was no mention of living with Dork for two years prior to our marriage. And this was critical as pension and other benefits would be impacted without that additional time. SO I asked Dork's lawyer if she had a copy of the cohabitation status. She said no and that since it was not introduced as evidence that it was too late to do so now.

At first I was freaked but realized SHE is not MY lawyer. SO I ASKED the Judge and showed her the document. The Judge asked his lawyer to speak to his client. SO the lawyer went over to talk to him. He said "I guess so" The Judge asked him to clarify. Was I correct and did he agree with the date. He said yes. Man the lawyer was not happy with me slipping that in. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

After that, I stood down and his lawyer made a summation and asked the court for a Divorce decree and that injunction be granted again. GRRR!!!!!!! The Judge said that she would NOT grant it. She said it was Dork's embarrassment and not my actions that were the root of this. And that granting an injunction would only serve to bring us back to court if I broke the terms and I could be sent to JAIL!!!!!! GRRR!!!!!

She said her decision would take care of the need to communicate and the need to get information from him. I then said that I wanted child support and Spousal support to be backdated to the date of separation and that he pay me the arrears between what he paid and what he should have paid. His lawyer objected and said that my former lawyer had not filed the proper papers and that I was not entitled to that. I almost fell over! That is almost 17K!!!!!!!!!!!

I also asked that the judge order that the 50% division of his pension and his Severance package use the date of the Divorce or the date of her court order as there had been such a significant delay to get to court because of Dork's refusal to negotiate or follow through on his promises. SO we will see.

The Judge agreed. She said she would be ordering that we each pay our own costs and that the rest of the decision would be done soon. I later found out that It can take up to SIX MONTHS because of the backlog!

So, I packed up my stuff and started walking out the door. Dork called me over. I wasn't going to but he said he had cheques for me. So he handed me some and then said "You know, I really love DD15, right?" I started to tear up and just looked at him. He looked down and said "I know" He KNEW I think that loving someone doesn't mean abandoning them" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

SO I left. That was it!

When I got home, I sent a letter to my old lawyer's firm's senior partners and requested a review of both my costs and why I was now out the arrears amount because of my old lawyer's non-action. SO that is in the works. I am not happy about the loss of that part. But I will live with it if necessary. But if I can show cause or whatever, I was told I can make a written submission to review that part. So I am waiting to see. The rest of the financials will take care of themselves one way or another.

I also forgot to mention that I told the court right on the first day that I had accepted a job but had not started yet. There was a huge shuffle of paper on Dork's lawyer's part. And during Dork's time on the stand he complained that I never let him know when I had started on my previous job. So while under oath I told the court about a letter form his lawyer dated less than two weeks after I started there, that they BOTH knew about the job. And that in comparison, I was NEVER told when Dork transferred. Was NEVER informed about new phone numbers, and that the ONLY way I found out was going through Information and calling all over the place to find him. GRRR!!!!


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Hi, NOW!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> (((NOW)))) Here it is <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />


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You are sooooo cool FAA

we'll have to start calling you Ms Perry Mason!!!

ok I watch way too many old shows on late night FOXTEL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Life may feel as if you are constantly getting kicked on a daily basis, living is about picking yourself up each day and going on and on and on regardless.

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I also took back my maiden name. And DD15 is using that as well. But Dork refuses to sign the waiver to allow her to do that. He said "I don't agree and I don't like it!!!"

Both DD and I told him we didn't LIKE his adultery but that had't stopped him. SO I am going to court to get permission to do so without his agreement. He is not a custodial parent and is not involved in our decisions at all. SO I beleive that shows he is being unreasonable with his refusal.

Either way, all DD's id and mine have been changed. I do NOT need his permission.

And of course, he has not intiated any of the things that the Judge said he should. Like change th einsurances, and set up the allotments for support. He said it is becasue the Judge has not made her order. Of course this means that he is now in arrears even without backdating the agreement to the date of separation.

What a jerk! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> So I STILL have to badger him for expenses. And NOW I am his excuse for not being able to commit to the DP4. ICK!!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

I WANT to see them marry each other it is what they DESERVE.


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Thanks AW <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> (((((big hugs for you andyours!!!))))))


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FAA,

Not sure if I have ever posted to you before. You have done a masterful job in this divorce. You mentioned at the end something that had me smiling and something I have often thought.

You mentioned that you hoped exH and OW would in fact get together because they deserved one another. Often have thought that there were situations on this site where the WS and the OP really do deserve one another and it would be a fitting punishment for both. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I like you attitude FAA. You will do well.

God Bless,

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Wow FAA,

I thought I was reading what your lawyer had done but then I read it again and Wow..... you did it all by yourself.

Think of changing professions? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Great job. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I always said the WS' have broken calculators in their heads. That's why their $$ and in this case, even their age is WRONG!!!

He loves your daughter? Hmmm..... coming from a WS that is weird..... kinda creepy. Coming from a real father and H w/b appropriate because he would love his family.

Keep up the good work. U R AWESOME!!!

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Well done, FA-A. You rock, girl!


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you go girl....you rock!!!!

(((((((((FAA)))))))))


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You did an INCREDIBLE job! I hope you are truly proud of yourself.

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Thanks, JL. I think we've "spoken" before. But yes, I think that being stuck with each other is the kind of "sentence" that WS deserve. Imagine living everyday knowing that you cheated and lied to get there. ANd wait and watch with supisicion for it to happen to you. Perfect consequence imho. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

LOL! I have a bet with my friends. I BET that Dork would be "obligated" to marry DP4 before year end. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> After all, she "supported" him through all this, right? And "protected" him against me and DD15.

Unfortunately, I lost that bet. Looks like the court order could take another 4 or 5 months. Plus the 30 day waiting period. Sigh. So now, I am the excuse to not commit to DP4. ICK!!!!!!


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THanks, TA, nikko and Cinderella. I am hoping that my experience will help other BS if they have to go to court. I feel quite good about it. I didn't expect I would get everything I wanted. And to tell the truth, once I got there, I just wanted it agree and settle on as much as possible. I want this whole thing done and buried.

I have had so much time to reflect on our life together. And work very hard to sift thorugh the emotions vs the reality of the sitch. And I have come to the conclusion that I did far too much "carrying" of the relationship from day one.

I know it is part a control issue. But more than that, I enabled his behaviour and did not hold him accountable for his freeloading and renter attitude. Sigh. Lesson learned.


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