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Hi, I am re-posting my question with a new thread. My WH and I are seeing a MC and she asked us to list down our set of boundaries. I will be listing the policy of joint agreement and radical honesty. Plus things like asking him to act appropriately with other females (such as no physical contact, no talking of personal issues etc). What else is a good idea to add in? Thanks.

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Jcool,
You seem to be confusing things. Boundaries are not what you define for your H, but rather, what you define about what you can and cannot accept in your own life.

You only get to set your own boundaries in life, not his. It's about what you will accept or reject based on your own definition of who you are. do you understand that? You can't set His boundaries, only your own.

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Yes, shinethrough, you're right. I am mixing things up. I sort of treated it like a 'wish list'. Things I hoped he would or would not do.

If he does not want to respect my boundaries but he does not want to break up the M either, what do I do?

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jcool,

Boundaries are not boundaries if you say you won't tolerate something, and then you do.

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If he does not want to respect my boundaries but he does not want to break up the M either, what do I do?

Sounds like he wants his cake and to eat it too....typical wayward mentality. In order to enforce a boundary....you have to be willing to give up the outcome. You make a decision about what you want to do, what you will tolerate....you seek to control only yourself. You protect yourself. WSs don't honor boundaries....that's why they're waywards. A wayward may "not want to break up the marriage" (passive), but they aren't ready to work on it either (active). You can't count on him to respect your boundaries....you must enforce them.

Between comfort and discomfort there is a alot of realestate. Long before something becomes intolerable, you may feel some discomfort. For instance....people have a certain amount of physical space that they feel comfortable with. If someone invades their space (moves too close), they start to feel uncomfortable....but there is a critical boundary where if someone else gets too close...they become SO uncomfortable that they will either push that person away, or move away themselves. To me, that's the actual boundary....the place where it becomes intolerable and is no longer negotiable. The space between tolerable(((((, okay, barely tolerable, almost intolerable))))) and too intolerable continue....is where all of the negotiation room exists. The boundary is where the negotiation room ENDS.

Some boundaries for you might look like this:

I am unwilling to share my husband with another woman.

I am unwilling to be an unhappy participant in a emotional triangle any longer.

The only people I consider friends, and welcome in my marriage, must also be friends of my marriage.


But as you think of these boundaries.....what are you prepared to do to enforce them?

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I am bumping this...sort of <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />, my WH and I had this exact discussion today. Our situation is such that he still works with OW- long story as to why, neither of us is in denial about recovery, but he has got to set boundaries. What he thought was appropriate email contact regarding work, went off on a rabbit trail and although the conversation was completely innocent- a conversation that he could have had with anyone male or female, it's not what was said but to whom it was said and it's those that lead to the emails that are not so innocent. I wanted to let you know that I printed this off tonight to show him because I really like the part about being stuck in this "emotional triangle". Which is exactly where I am. I am even adding that to my signature! Not that I am proud of it, but because that explains how I truly feel...Thanks for the insight...


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FWH 37
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DS 6
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Dday (EA) 1/07


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I haven't seen ONE case where the affairees work together and the marriage made a complete recovery.

Maybe someone else has.

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I wasn't implying that we would (make a complete recovery while they worked together- that is). My point was about boundaries. Nowhere in my post do I solicit advice. I know what the MB Principles are. That does not mean that I am not allowed to say where my feelings are. I am in no way thinking we are anywhere near recovery because WH does still work with OW.

No two situations on here are EXACTLY alike. I am NOT in any way saying that following the princples to a "T" won't work for everyone, but everyone has their own journey through the principles. We just happen to be stuck in ours and I truly believe that we will make it eventually.

Do I think my husband is putting his job in front of his marriage? No, I think my husband is working on his marriage while keeping a roof on our heads and food in our mouths. Our home has been for sale for months without a bite and he has applied at 40 plus jobs local and non local to no avail. The economy isn't so great right now and you can't get hired if no one will hire you.

Do I like where we are right now? No, but as I said in a recent post on another thread, I am not fooled into thinking we are in recovery either.

I have learned not to ask advice unless I am following the principles of MB, otherwise it's just fruitless because I'll just get told to follow the principles! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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