mkeverydaycnt,

unless you are justuss or unless you saw my emails to justuss you cannot judge if they contained any valid issues or not.

All,

go ahead and feel free to post whatever ya all feel like in this thread now. it's all yours.

i've created a new one for Jerry, which i respectfully ask everyone to keep all hostility and negativity OUT OF. of course i can't control anyone but me but i can hope.

Let it be FOR Jerry.

well, I consider the source... I know Justuss to be fair and even handed... I know you to whine and complain about things that have no merit.

have no merit "in your eyes" mkeverydaycnt. that does not make it absolute

and what how you view my "issues" don't mean diddle squat to me.

you do not know me at all. you have decided to take a small glean of me and make your absolute decisions about me.

i could careless.

FLT2H,


What???

Your emails were answered. Perhaps not to your satisfaction but you did receive replies. I will NOT discuss and/or critique ANY MB member via email or any other way.

Once again! Problems with MB OR THE MODS can be addressed via email to the mods or to Admin.NOT ON THE FORUMS!!!

Any questions------email me.

thanks anyway Justuss. i have no questions.

Sorry, Justuss, but you DID discuss Suzet right here in the open.


NOW

UMMM Suzet was no longer a member!

nice loophole.

And this viewpoint reflects an ignorance of the dynamics of adultery. To believe that "limited" contact would ever effect recovery tells me you do not understand how recovery happens or the nature of addiction. Yet, as a person who has been on this board for 6 whole weeks, you feel somehow qualified to contradict Dr.Harley, a psychologist with 35 years experience. That arrogance is breathtaking. I would like to know your credentials and qualifications for doing so.

As a "business professional" you should know that contracts are ended every day when situations change. His situation was no different than anyone else's here. Folks quit jobs, end contracts, cancel lease agreements, etc, in order to save their marriages. His situation is no different than anyone elses.

What is black and white, MR, is this: recovery will be impossible until contact ends. And unfortunately, I don't think you understand that.

And yes, continued contact is a DEAL BREAKER. It calls for seperation and PLAN B.

MR, we are here to learn MARRIAGE BUILDERS principles, not the uneducated opinion of some guy who wandered on this forum 6 weeks ago. Please note the sign on the door. And EXPECT to get challenged when you contradict MB principles and advocate dishonesty and fraud, as you did on another thread.

I understand you have [admitted] problems with clear thinking, ie: "gray thinking," but that is no excuse to not understand MB principles if you feel inclined to dole out "advice" to newcomers."

A business contract is important, but by definition it is breakable - there is a normally a penalty to do so, but most contracts assume the possibility of either side needing an 'out'; say because of a critically ill family member, or the changed requirements of the contractor. To break the contract would not be an ethical failing, but a matter of accepting the known penalty and the damage to a reputation for reliability.

A marriage contract is a solemn vow, underwritten by your core integrity. There is no 'out' in the spoken vows. To break the contract IS an ethical failing.

It seems to me that the two cannot be equated. They are not equally unethical to break.

The WW in question would presumably be willing to break her business contract if it were for a 'good' reason - say the illness of a child. That would not be seen as unethical. There is a 'good' reason for breaking it in this case, but it is an embarrassing reason. The contract is being honoured because it avoids an embarrassing consequence for the WW.

TA

for someone who COULDN'T(not could) care less...you seem to keep responding to me.

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, so????????????????

I did not discuss Suzet_, her situation or her posting style. I responded to a false accustation made about an action taken by the forum.

ONE MORE TIME! Last time.

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