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If you did...what was it like?
I am going to call & setup a phone session and I want to know what to expect.
BS(me) 40 WH 40 D-day 10/03/2007 ***Recovering and growing wiser and stronger.*** I was divorced 10/08/2008.
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I found Steve to be very direct and to the point. He doesn't waste a lot of time with idle chit chat and does an excellent job of explaining his course of action.
If you are able to counsel with him, it's worth every penny.
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I did a free phone session with Dr. Willard and Mrs. Harley. It was short but you could hear it over and over again on the web site.
They told me to have my main question ready and they did one segment that was aired live. Then they spoke to me (with WH in the room) for another few minutes...maybe 10 to 15 total.
It was very helpful.
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FWH/BW (me)57+ M:36+ yr. 4 D-Days: Jun-Nov 06 E/PA~OW#2 (OW#1 2000)
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My H and I have been in regular counseling with Steve Harley for several months.
You can expect that he will want to talk to each party separately for part of the time.
He will talk you through a logical basis for recovery.
He will not be disrespectful to either party.
It will be worth the expense.
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I have been in counseling with Jennifer Harley. It has been extremely useful. I did 2 coaching/counseling sessions with Jennifer alone before both me and H did the counseling at the same time. That's what I expect will happen with you too.
With Jennifer, I set up a plan of action, that I followed unilateraly before H decided to move back in. Now we have a plan of action that involves both of us.
There is not a lot of chit chat about the past... it is focused on a plan of action for the future.
My H says that he saw a dramatic change in my attitude after the 2 first sessions I had with Jennifer which was a big factor in him moving back in. We still have a lot of hurdles to get through, and will be in counseling for a while, but I think it's worth it.
FWS (me): 38 (EA in May-June 2007)
FWS (H): 35 (EA from oct 2005 to oct 2007)
DS1: 7
DS2: 3.5
S decided he wanted a separation: October 5th 2007
S moved out: October 12th 2007
S moved back in: November 10th
We are working together, one day at a time, one step at a time to build a love that will last forever. Thanks to MB.
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We did phone counseling with Jennifer 5-6 times. Unlike most of her cases, there was no infidelity involved, so our experience may be different than most of the others.
She was businesslike and direct, but without being cold. There was very little chit-chat. On the first call she spoke to my wife and I at the same time, then one of us, then the other, and finally with both of us. On subsequent calls she would speak to one of us, then the other, and finally to both of us.
In our case it was mostly identification and elimination of LB's. We already had a good handle on EN's, but she put some things in a different light for me, and I reordered my EN's. She also went through POJA with us, and the concepts of care and protection - the same stuff you can get elsewhere on the website, but having a professional explain it to you somehow makes it sink in better.
There is 'homework' - either written, 'work on yourself', or 'work with your spouse' exercises.
Hope this helped...
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I thought it was too expensive and now we are divorced. The affair and divorce cost me almost $200,000. not counting loss of ex's income for the rest of my life.
I WISH I had done the counseling, and got my ex to do at LEAST ONE SESSION. Now he wants to remarry, and has a DIFFERENT version of what went on during the affair. It would have been so much better if he had heard things from a third party. I think I was very clear in my Plan B letter, but it would have put me much more at ease if he had counseled with the Harleys directly.
If I had it to do over, I would eat beans for a month to get the money for the counseling.
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The thing is B, your husband never stopped his A so what use would counselling have been? My WH was a nightmare when he was having his A and NOBODY could have talked sense into him.
Counselling would probably benefit your ex now with his personal recovery.
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Worth. Every. Penny.
That is all I have to say.
Me,BW - 42; FWH-46 4 kids D-Day #s1 and 2~May 2006 D-Day #3~Feb.27, 2007 (we'd been in a FR) Plan B~ March 3 ~ April 6, 2007 In Recovery and things are improving every day. MB rocks.
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My FWH and I counseled with Jennifer. We had been struggling with trying, unsuccessfully, to recover for 3 1/2 years when we hit a crisis that nearly ended our marriage.
We needed the coaching to put us on the right track. We counseled for about 2 1/2 months and are doing great now.
We should have done this in the very beginning and we would have saved so much grief and heartache over the past years.
Best money I have ever spent.
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I am the BW, He is the FWH D-Day: 12/02/03
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