I'd say it was wrong.

and if someone asked me to edit my remarks... i would.

in fact, i did.

i'm not giving information. can u promise me confidentiality like those i trust with my confidential information? or is this the internet? i think people are a little too open to tell their whole life's stories. i've probably posted too much detail... and information about my struggles and pain... and even temptation... in a group such as this anyway... even if the group i've seen was the limit of those who had access.

one of the problems with PSS and the like is poor impulse control.

i used to cuss like a Christian sailor... about this issue. i was very, very badly wounded.

it's on this one topic... i have not in the past had self-control. but i guess Christians are supposed to be perfect? Like they look in church?

I like the churches where the alcoholics, the people who have really been abused, the people who have terrible struggles with their own sin... can just not be so judged.

(as far as comments relative to the swearing... well, i'm almost surprised it wasn't worse when people made harsh comments to me as i was just coming out of withdrawal... i'm not saying i'm right.

but would you rather i stuffed it and kept up nice appearances?

i'm not nearly as bad as i used to be. for me to agree to "try again".... is to give up any pretense of Christian perfection... and to make an effort to change.

i am not where i want to be.. not in relation to this issue.

if any of you want me to pretend to be as holy as you.. i am not holier than thou.

i don't want your support, jo.

please move on.

i don't qualify.

this woman is a fraud or completely ****. Hmmm..where have her supporters gotten too? any doubts about her at this point people?

Abused, my [censored], they are professional abusers. An alcoholic should be judged. People who cannot judge right from wrong fill our prisons, back, and that is exactly where they belong. You are SUPPOSED to judge right from wrong.


More hypocrisy. sigh.......... you condemn and judge and then condemn others for "judging. " Hypocrisy at every turn..

Are you an alcoholic, back? Are you posting while drunk?

I agree with everything that nice GodBlessTexas says! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> **snort**

Back...

Have you been diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder?

Mrs. W

I'm thinking MPD.

GBT,

I've been called *****a name one, if one is cruel, calls a prostitute. You can call me a hypocrite... but a person does lose patience... and we all make mistakes. Yeah, I"m sure I'm wrong. I'm sure I got angry.

However, these people who have been on this site for years... and have posted thousands of posts... well, they're on for so long so much for their own reasons.

But what I feel they (and others do)... is survey the site.. . and, well, their whole thing is about criticizing me.

As you notice, I'm not on a thread about their life struggles... looking for opportunity to evaluate them... criticize them... make digs... take cheap shots... etc., etc.

But that's why they're here... on a thread where they don't really have to be... if they have better things to do with their time.

1000's of posts. Years on the site.

And this is the fruit of it.

When you pick on someone who is experiencing pain in their life... who came to the board... and shared their struggle... and can't just get on with your life elsewhere... and need to feed on the pain of others... and just keep it up....

well, i guess that's why they are here.

i've got them on ignore.

it's just gossip and that kind of thing why they are here then.

if they'd just leave... if they only want to cause trouble... where gossip ends... strife ceaseth.

i know i'm feeling God's healing power in my soul... as I've opened the greatest wound i've ever experienced in my life.

and if people wanted me to be perfect as I opened up the wound... sorry, didn't work out that way.

but... that's what they want to focus on... well, it's not about that.

they're doing the devil's work... not just in making a mistake here and there... but in their whole focus and why they are here, imo.

Well, the good news is that the After Divorce Dating board is missing a *****... The bad news is that GQII has found her.. bummer

AGG

PM,

She writes EXACTLY like someone in the midst of a manic episode...My late father had Bipolar Disorder, so I recognize it pretty well...I really feel strongly that that is what is going on with Back...I pray that she will get the help she so desperately needs...

Mrs. W

No, but I do have a close friend at work who has. Wonderful Christian brother. He has a medical issue.

There is no way I would focus on anything negative... and pick him apart... as he shared his struggles.

He does not express himself "perfectly" as he shares.

I think so many are past their own hurt and pain perhaps... have been here so long.. they've forgotten what it's like to be in the midst of it.

A person should not be "on trial". And I think the focus is so negative... people are having a witch hunt at my expense.

Those things tend to build on themselves.

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Your "pain" does not entitle you to act like a ***** and call people names. It also does not erase the fact that you are behaving HYPOCRITICALLY when you engage in the very activities you claim to condemn. They are no more "doing the devils work" than you are with your hateful condemnations.

You owe them an apology, back.

ROFL <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I would say, Mrs. W, that if I had bipolar disorder... that would have been diagnosed. Seriously, the 2 psychiatrists I saw due to the first being just adjusting to a divorced state... thought I was wonderful. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

However, salespeople types are quite the expressive types with strong emotions. It's a personality type.

I have a very strong salesperson side to me. Was on the phone making friends today. Can stand up to speak and move a whole crowd.

I'm only sharing, on this site, a very personal struggle.

Anyone, to me, appears manic-depressive in the midst of dealing with the hurt and pain of betrayal.

The scope of your knowledge of my overall personality is quite limited.

My personality is quite winning in person.

PC's strip a person of all of that.

I think some more socially dysfunctional personalities... excel the most in pcland.

I think a number of people on here are quite dysfunctional.

And that's why they are here.

If you opened up to people about your greatest struggle... and they acted like the posters here have... any normal person would react... I think.

I most definitely have panic attacks in relation to the ex... can't really function socially in relation to him.

Have gone to see shrinks about that... and because I am so adept in every area of my life... they thought I was the bomb and were just amazed at me.

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I'm one of the most socially successful people you'll ever meet.

Course, that's cause I walk in a very strong presence of the Lord.

To be crippled in this area... has been... pitiful... for a dynamic person.

It's pathetic...

and, call me manic, I can't help but laugh at how paranoid and negative and obsessive y'all appear to be... diagnosing me over the pc... like you are trained psychologists capable. Plus, I've seen 2 phds... who were enthralled by me.

3D is more "my land"... I'm sure.

God bless,

Well thats certainly a "friend-winning" statement. And very marketing of you as well, not to mention judgemental.

Please let us not forget BACK, you are posting here too.

Back...

Almost ALL people with Bipolar Disorder are EXACTLY as you've just described yourself...I certainly did NOT ask you that as an insult...As I told you my own father had the illness...Some of the MOST intelligent and productive people in society have it...Some of the greatest historical figures that this world has ever seen had Bipolar Disorder...Also, I can tell you that what you've said about what the psychiatrists have said about you is IDENTICAL to what my dad said more times than I can count...I have lived it, I recognize it, and do not think I am wrong...

I strongly urge you to go for another psychiatric evaluation, though, sadly, I know my words to you at this point in time are going to fall on deaf ears...I do understand and am empathetic...

Mrs. W

I wish that I had some of my dad's old letters written while in a mania with me now...I'd post one...No one here would be able to tell them apart from what you've written Back...

As I told you the other day, your ideation is quite grandiose...

I don't need to have all the creds to diagnose you...I've got more "street cred" than I ever wanted to when it comes to Bipolar Disorder...I would recognize it from a million miles away...I've lived it, to those of us that have, it is unmistakable...

Mrs. W

me too!!!

It's like deja-vu.

FIL died last spring. At 61 his heart gave out. Every three years he'd have 4-6 month manic episodes which took their toll on it.

As Mrs. W said, we know you won't understand. Mania must run it's course and someday in the coming months you'll be in depression and perhaps willing to then seek medical attention for your apparent disorder. (actually this could take years of repeated cycles as depression may not manifest until the inflicted hits a series of worsening rock bottoms...someday they nearly ALL wake up broke and alone and the thought of rebuilding AGAIN finally overwhelms them...often too late)

We sympathize more than you will ever know and really kinda feel bad about your being engaged/confronted, not because you're on track or right about anything, but because we know why you speak/post as you do.



For others...here's a list of the Signs of Mania I looked up on some website. I'm certainly going off more than just some internet search to reach my conclusion. I've lived it for years TRYING to communicate with my FIL. It was IMPOSSIBLE when he was cycling in mania. The more you try to worse it makes it for YOU and for them. Back is operating above us right now....just let her ramble and she'll tire of us. There is no sense to be made of it anyway...EXCEPT in her mind. She will continue to frustrate you as long as you post to her, try to understand it, argue it, or attempt to teach her.

She's ILL. MB is irrelevant here.

Mr. Wondering



Manics are the HIGHEST functioning of the mentally ill. Interesting my FIL was a salesperson of the utmost caliber. He was loved by his customers and clients. He achieved very high positions professional and excelled in many areas of life. Ted Turner, Abe Lincoln, Patty Duke to name only a couple people suffering (literally suffering) with manic-depression.

Generally, there life really takes a huge downward spiral when the mania peaks in a manic cycle and they exhibit not just a couple but nearly ALL those items on the list above. The devastation is complete but often they are such high functioning individuals they can recoup their losses between episodes....so it takes a series of them prior to reaching rock bottom which often means suicide for a vast MAJORITY of them.

This is why continually pounding them to seek medical assistance with their condition....especially when NOT cycling, is so important. This desease literally KILLS them.

Actually, I accompany my co-worker to his shrink appts.

The psychiatrist called me and asked me to come... along with his mother... and his primary support people. I go there to support his ongoing wellbeing. (I'm his job coach.)

This psychiatrist says that most highly successful people are bi-polar... and, quite basically, most top salespeople are manic. Please feel free to read up on it. I believe he'd know. Another phd.

It's just not the big problem that you may think it is.

I also have a high IQ.

What you may think is "problematic"... is, most likely, giftedness.

That's what this shrink said, at least.

I won't conform to a group... in pcland... or be moved to go along with the crowd.

I'm a leader here in 3D world.

If we were in an in-person social group... I'd be leading it right now.

And the most popular person present.

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Y'all don't know what you are talking about....

but

God bless.

Thanks for the info, MrW, it sure seems to fit.