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SSB,

I agree with you about the poster in question...

I read your old thread in it's entirety before you deleted it...So I really did get all the "meat" of it...I hope that your perception has shifted since that time...I would like to hear about it if so...

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"But that person is incapable of processing things normally, either. And the irregular processing is precisely what makes him/her so interesting. So, people post more. *sigh*"

SSB, IMHO the above statement is a disrespectful judgement.

From my perspective, people have been trying to post to her in an attempt to reach through her barriers. Perhaps those attempts are indeed futile. But to insinuate they are motivated in any way by the negative desire you suggest is offensive.

This person reminds me so much of my younger brother. And despite all his rudeness and pomposity I really do care about my brother. I assure you that when family members try to reason with him, their motive is not some rubber-necking form or stick-poking! Yes, we understand the chances are very slim that we will someday get through to him. But we also understand that it was the letting his rudeness slide for so long, not confronting it sooner, that contributed to him getting so far away from reality. While it is certainly much more comfortable to just keep quiet and not challenge him at all... we realize that is part of the problem. It's not just that such people exist in a distorted reality of their own construction, but that those around them sometimes seem to go along with the distortion instead of challenging it.

I suspect that part of her bragging about everyone being supposedly so admiring and infatuated with her is that people in her 3D world are too afraid to confront her with reality. So they give the false impression that they endorse her inflated self-appraisal. Instead they probably make fun of her behind her back...

A possible positive motive that you may have overlooked is that posters may be trying to help her by challenging her distorted perceptions AND her rudeness towards others.

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I feel comfortable in stating that she has grandiose DELUSIONS...from many years of professional as well as personal experience..

You most definitely cannot reason with a DELUSIONAL PERSON.

Trying to do so is maddening and frustrating, an exercise in futility....

However, I truly RESPECT anyone's right to try to do so...

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In the 18th century, people paid a penny apiece to go to Bedlam Royal Hospital so they could gawk at the “lunatics,” poke sticks at them, enrage them, and watch what they would do. On Tuesdays, it was free.

Just because we’re online and it is 300 years later, doesn’t mean that the same process is right.

It is incomprehensible for me to think that there would ever be a subject on which I would ever, ever agree with either MEDC or MrsW. But regarding the person whose name here is synonymous with “aft” and “stern” (supposing we were talking about ships), I have to say they are right on target.*

That individual should be left alone. She cannot get help here, because her difficulties are psychiatric/organic and not marital/ethical/social/moral


I think it is incredibly rude to start a thread to talk about another person behind their back. How hurtful of you.

And how disrespectful to also talk about the people posting to her and to tell us that it is in essense the same as gawking at mental patients in an assylam. I posted to her because I like her. I stopped posting because I am not interested in biblical discussions or mental disorders, and that is the two places the threads were headed. Not that I have to explain myself.

And if any of her threads take a turn to a place I want to get in on the discussion, I will.

And to state that you won't use her name in case a search is done? Why not?

Are you trying to practice deception? Is that why you don't want it to show up in a search.

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I wish that there was a way to help her.

I see that as the purpose of this thread.

I like her, too.


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I've been open with her regarding my concerns about her mental health.

She responded by basically calling me EVIL, not a Christian..edited by Justuss...

In a recent post, she described herself as being "very, very,very" sane...


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It strikes me as weird and wrong to talk about someone as if they are not in the room.

I know you care, Mimi. No one could ever question that about you.

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Josie, my purpose was to deflect those who were, indeed, "poking a stick" (and some indeed were -- not all, but some).

I'm not a psychiatrist, and I'm not able to diagnose anyone for anything at all. In my entirely unqualified opinion, this person was/is disequilibrated. And I know about disequilibrated people that there are environmental inputs that ESCALATE or DE-ESCALATE behavior and ideation in someone like this.

Removing escalating inputs usually helps reduce behavior (at least somewhat).

It's interesting to note that as people began responding less, she began posting less.

(It is also interesting to count her posts-per-day since registering, and compare the florid writing as the volume increased, or decreased.)


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This individual posted, this morning, about electrocuting herself to create some kind of vision. It was unclear whether her experience was real, organic, hallucinogenic (induced), organically hallucinogenic, due to ECT, or metaphoric...

Later she described that she anticipates taking large quantities of stockpiled/hoarded medication to undo her pain, but the reference was unclear. Self-medication? Suicidal ideation?

Oh yeah ... grandiose ideation. OR else, suicidal ideation. Murderous ideation? Highfalutin' imagination?

What stuns me is that not even one of the responding posters seems to have noticed what she wrote. But because she gets a response, and in an intellectual/religious vein, she will think she has an appropriate audience, and continue.

Josie, in these threads we discuss people who aren't here all the time. I still maintain that this is as good a place as any to encourage people to stay off of that poor woman's thread, so that she can move on to something more appropriate that will help her more effectively.

Is God-talk or relationship discussion going to help her, if she's actively wholeheartedly self-destructing?

I really don't know how board monitoring and moderating works, or its function, I guess. Given the magnitude of this woman's expressed problems, I'm surprised that Justuss or another moderator has not stepped in to redirect her.

But inducing her to continue with her thrall, by engaging her in it, has certainly got to be a mistake!


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SSB, I suggest you go back and re-read that post. It isn't quite what you have portrayed it to be.

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But regarding the person whose name here is synonymous with “aft” and “stern” (supposing we were talking about ships)

are you guys talking about my [censored]....??

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />ARKie^^

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But regarding the person whose name here is synonymous with “aft” and “stern” (supposing we were talking about ships)

are you guys talking about my [censored]....??

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />ARKie^^


lol

Actually, I think it's a much BIGGER issue

like MY [censored]. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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