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Hi Aranchaa!

Please post your questions here... I haven't been following your original thread as you were asking for two specific individuals.

Hopefully some of the other posters will respect your desire for input w/o thread-jacking...

Semper Fi,

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Guys, icant believe what im reading...here im with a million problems, with no idea wich direction to follow and people talking about my caring for Back...o whatever [censored].
Do not give a [censored] about anybody here sorry guys, dont have time, energy for all these crap. Do not care at all who Back is!
All i was hoping to get was some opinion by somebody who taught might know some answers or have gone through the same im going through.
Dont care whether they're adulterers or not. |Just wanted some OPINION, i'll say it again. Doesnt mean im going to follow it. If any of u say something i dont agree with, i wont do it.
Fine u warned about Back, it's over, dont care. will post tomorrow.Back can post if she wants, i can listen if i want to, and i'[ll do whatever i think is best


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Hi Aranchaa,

I’m not a MC and I’m not an “expert”. I can only share what I’ve learned along the way as I’ve rebuilt my M and from what I’ve learned here on MBs…

I believe that your H will be home in a couple of days and I wanted to give you some of my thoughts on your post.

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I arranged Councelling for day after he arrives, how can i approche him, should i say something like:
I arranged C for us and would like u to come,

I can understand your need and desire to want to work on the M immediately. MC is definitely needed, but I wouldn’t spring it on him just yet. You already suspect that he won’t receive this tactic very well… so I wouldn’t try to “force” him to go. If you want to go, then I’d let him know that you have an appointment but that you’ll be home as quick as you can so that you guys can do something together.

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He doesnt want to talk about it much on the phone and i believe he is thinking that having profiles in adults sites has been wrong but is not a big deal and that i should get over it without talking much about it.

Not wanting to talk about the past A is very common. Sorry for not knowing more about your situation, but did your H have an A, either emotional or physical? If he did have an EA or PA, is he still in contact with the OW?

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You see i dont really know the extent of the relationship with two of these women. i think he could be lying as usual.

If he had an A, either EA or PA, and he hasn’t written a No Contact letter and let you review it before he sent it… then he probably IS lying. As long as your H is still involved in the A, you SHOULDN’T trust his words.

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I am sending him articles of this site, like the rule of honesty, or Affairs on the Internet but im affraid he is so busy working he is not reading them.

This is called “Educating” your H. …and I can tell you from personal experience, that 99.9999999% of the time, it DOES NOT work.

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Im implementing plan A by emailing, texting and ringing him and being nice to him. He says that i sound in great form but doesnt want to involve emotionally with me. He says i'll never forgive him 4 what he is done and that's it. This sounds to me like that he isnt really sorry for what he's done and doesnt realise how much he has hurt me.

Staying in contact with your H while he is away is good… Clingy, needy e-mails and texts will not help you. If you are staying in contact with him, try to talk about non-relationship stuff… how things are going around the house, your job (if you work), the kids (if you have any), the dog or cat… anything to stay in touch with him. Your goal here is to engage in conversation with him without it turning into a “lets discuss the A” conversation. Plan-A is about showing your H your best qualities… you want to rekindle his feelings for you that brought you together in the first place.

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Justkeeping what do u mean i should maybe keep my boundaries if he things it wasnt a big deal and that i get over it.

A good book for you to read is Boundaries in Marriage by Dr. Henry Cloud and Dr. John Townsend… The articles here on the MB site will also give you some great information on how to discuss your true feelings in a loving, non-threatening manner. The key here is to get to a point where you and your H can start working through these issues.

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What if he doesnt care wether i get over it or not because he things is going to be too difficult to recover a M that has always been so difficult?/
I would really appreciate ur help.!!

Try not to think about “What If” questions. Focus on the developing a good Plan-A, and then doing your best to follow through with your plan. It is possible to rebuild your M. MB offers the best “plan” that I’ve seen and it does work.

Semper Fi,

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Aranchaa,

I just wanted to assure you that I never had any intention to distract attention away from your original thread by posting in the other thread you started.

I figured you were too busy to respond to those of us who were posting in your threads. Also, I wasn't sure which thread you'd be returning to when you were ready to talk more about your situation. So when I have time I will continue to post occasionally in your various threads to bump them up until you respond to us.

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Until return to respond in your threads I will just try to answer more from the info we have so far.

I agree with RIF that the WS is usually not receptive to marriage counseling or learning about the things to improve the marriage for a while.

Of course, if he does say anything indicating he is willing to go to the MC you could agree to that. But even then MC is sometimes a waste of time until the WS really wants to change. It still would be beneficial for you to go to the MC even if you go by yourself.

BTW, have you already met with this particular MC (con't remember if you already said so)? Do you know whether or not they are pro- or anti- adultery/divorce? You have to be careful. It would be a really good idea to go by yourself a few times first anyway because you might not want some MC telling your WH he's not doing anything wrong and/or that you should just get a divorce ASAP. One MC we went to said we were NEVER, EVER to discuss anything from the past, not even my WH's current adultery (um I guess because at that moment, in his MC office, my WS was 'with' me instead of the OW so bringing her up was 'throwing the past in my WS's face')! Also that same MC and a family conselor my WS wanted to switch our daughters to, said nothing when my WS went into a yelling cursing rage against me in their presence. (I think they were too ariad of him to tell him to calm down!) A different MC told us I should go back to work as the solution to our problems when neither my WH or I wanted that. So just be careful that whomever you choose as a MC has the same goals you do.

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Hi Aranchaa - I see that you're back... I've tried to answer your original post in this new thread.

Feel free to use this post or your other thread, but I would recommend sticking to one thread so viewers don't have to skip around to multiple threads...

Semper Fi,

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Hi RIF, thanks a lot for ur advises, i posted a long post in Arancha's thread, under Gereral Questions, could u please read and let me know what u think. \I got 2 answers from Starfish and Meremortal, and cant believe they both see no hope in my situation...

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Aranchaa & RIF,

I responded on Aranchaa's new thread. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

RIF, thanks for helping Aranchaa keep her hope alive. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Aranchaa, keep posting..... more support is coming. RIF is a good supporter and has a very level head in his approach.

Let's help you get a plan that will work for you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

take care,
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