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Hey, while we're on the subject BK- do you think he will retaliate? You haven't been very clear...? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

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Wasn't my intention to offend. I have no vendetta. PA isn't my style. If I have an issue with someone, I prefer to address it with that person directly.

I didn't chime in on this discussion previously as exposure is not an area I feel completely comfortable advising someone on when the safety of their children is a concern.

However, I've been studying Selfish Demands at great length and I felt it important to point out the damage that such tactics can cause to a marriage. I'm relieved to know,Res, that you aren't posing such a threat of punishment to your H as loss of your respect if he doesn't comply. To do so would not create a safe environment for RH and if he were to comply with a demand by doing something he didn't feel enthusiastic about, resentment would likely be the outcome.

I truly wish you hadn't seen my pointing that out as a stab, BK, and hope you will feel comfortable removing me from your ignore list soon as I feel that each and every practicing MB member likely has some area of knowledge of the concepts from which others can draw on in order to better their marriage. That's what I'm here for. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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OK-I'm gonna go watch the end of the football game we quit watching like four hours ago...you people are addictive! (no comments from the peanut gallery Mrs. W <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> )


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I knew you guys were never going to let me live down my first post.

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I've got a word document and I'm not afraid to use it!!!!


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w2s - now THAT is funny!


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Oh No, I think he's taking me up on my dare...and putting it on my thread....


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I am deeply saddened for all the innocent people in affair situations.

I, like Mel, would have NEVER married my H if someone had come forward and told me the truth about my H sleeping around on me. He actually tried to sleep with more woman than he actually did.

This is embarrassing to tell, but here goes....

Two weeks before my wedding I went to a party at some friends of a friends house with my fiance, who is now my H. I ended up leaving early and my fiance stayed longer.

The next morning I got a call from the hostess. She told me that my fiance had tried to kiss one of her friends at the party. I was crushed. I told him the marriage was off. He denied, denied, denied. I knew he was drunk when he got home that night and I let him convince me that he was drunk and that he had no recollection of it at all. I married him two weeks later. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I wanted to marry him so bad. I loved him so much. HOWEVER, if someone had come forward and told me he had slept with someone, I know in my heart, I wouldn't have married him, ESPECIALLY if they had proof. But that never happened and the rest is history and in my sig line. I am quite sure that OM's W confronted her H over the phone bill but I am sure it was easy to lie his way out of it since LaLa was working with him. He probably said it was all business. He is probably gaslighting her and telling her that's she's INSANE for thinking such a thing. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

W2S....you know how painful this stuff is. Could you imagine if you had not only found out that your wife had an affair, but how would you feel if you knew she had been cheating on you your whole marriage? What if you just found out that she slept with other men right up to your wedding day? You'd probably be sitting here, like me, wondering why in the he11 she married you in the first place?

Well for me, it's pure he11. My H is trying to hold onto me now but it's sooooooooooooooooooooooooo hard for me to get past THAT MUCH HURT. I am miserable as you could imagine. This is the future that will be the OM's W as well. She will most likely feel "something is not right" just like I did, for 14 years, only to be told she's acting jealous or crazy. I even wanted to take my own life once because of the crazy making that he dished out. I was always told that I was just insecure and that I needed to get a life, basically. Grrrrrr!!!!!

I had so much potential but was beaten down in our relationship. I was never happy. I should have left but stayed so the kid's lives weren't interrupted any more than it already was. I see now, that was a bad choice of mine as well.

My kids have suffered in our miserable relationship, especially now. They have watched me cry uncontrollably for days at a time, for over a year now. They have watched me sit lifeless for hours on end. My son saw me try to beat the crap out of my H one night after not being able to take the hurt any more after d-day #3. I lashed out on my H big time in the garage that night. My son heard us and came out. My son had to pin his mother to the ground.

My relationship with my daughter has been strained because I'm not up to socializing much these days and I try to be there for her and it's so hard. Some days, I don't even want to get out of the chair. She's getting married in six months. This should be a happy time for her.

Both of my kids desperately need counseling, and they refuse to go.

W2S....I completely understand you wanting to protect your family. It's so sad you even have to be in this posistion. But since you are, I know you'll try to do the right thing.

Everything I keep hearing is that you guys feel like the OM will think you are trying to get revenge on him and you're afraid he'll retaliate. Understood. So, let's change this somehow because I don't think you would have any problem doing it if you thought your family would be safe.

If ANYONE has any suggestions here on how we can accomplish this, that would be greately appreciated.

The only thing I can come up with is to have someone else, other than you W2S, to do it. I feel like if it comes from you, the OM may see it as revenge. At this point, he won't care that it's being done for his poor wife.

*I* would be willing to do it even. If you gave me the names and the proof, I would call the OM's W myself.

There HAS to be a way!

Somebody, anybody, please help us find a way!

When there's a will, there's a way.

Please, please, don't let this woman lead the life I endured. Please.

I care about the innocent people in all of this and that includes the OM's wife and her children as well.

The OM's family will suffer at the hands of this man. If the wife finds out the truth and doesn't dump him, well then, I feel sorry for her kids.

Edited for spelling.

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Husband was unfaithful to me before and after our marriage, at least 7 times. I found out 13 yrs into the marriage. Trickle truth for an entire year. Several different d-days, so it was more like a d-year. Difficult recovery.



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Thank you Mrs. W.

Right back at'cha.


Husband was unfaithful to me before and after our marriage, at least 7 times. I found out 13 yrs into the marriage. Trickle truth for an entire year. Several different d-days, so it was more like a d-year. Difficult recovery.



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Mopey,

Thanks for taking the time to share your story with us. I do know how incredibly painful that was for you. I really appreciate your offer to expose for us, but I don't think it would matter should OM choose revenge. He would stil have no doubt where the information came from and target my family. We were just looking for a healthy debate on the topic. I had been researching the issue the past couple of weeks and hadn't been able to find any specific information where Dr. Harley insisted on exposure for recovery. Don't worry the plan is still for me to expose to OM's W as much as I may hate doing it. It just goes against every gut instinct I have knowing that doing this could affect my children's lives should he choose to retaliate against us.

Just for the record, I think both of you are ACES! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
(((((((((((Mrs. W & Mopey)))))))))))))

You'll never now how much I apprectiate all both of you have done for my DW. I will be forever in your debt.

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Hey W2S maybe I can just pre-empt Dr Harley and tell you right here I would be AMAZED if he said it was necessary for recovery because he has said MANY times it isn't. He says it is optional.

In the context of an ongoing affair or a just finished one he says that it should be done in order to help with NC.

In other cases he says it is OPTIONAL but that the other BS should be told and deserves to know the truth.

That will be what Dr Harley says IF he replies to your email.

For MANY people here it is a MORAL choice and to do with the other BS's right to know. But it is NOT marriage building or necessary for recovery in that sense.

I hope I made that clear for you.


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and if I can be so bold, my view is that this OM and fear of what he might do is a consideration but it is more in your mind than reality. OM are cowards. It is VERY rare we have ever even heard of it backfiring on the BS or his family.

Does this OM represent a clear and present danger to you or your family? Most probably, 1000000:1 No.


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I get that it isn't a part of marriage building. Remember I'm the BS here so I understand everyones opinion that the OM's W has every right to know. It is the kind thing to do. In my case, my DW's best friend and someone I actually considered to be a good friend of mine also, could have prevented all this from happening had she exposed what was going on in the early stages of my DW's A. Unfortunately, her allegiance fell with my DW and went as far as enabling and covering up for her. Luckily, my DW saw through her hidden agenda in August and cut her from our life.

Anyways, I'm just really struggling with the possible consequences this could have for my boys. I know you say that it's not going to happen and for the most part I agree with you OM's are the worst form of cowards, but even if there is only a .0009% chance this could affect my boys it would cause great conflict in me. It goes against every instinct I have as a father to protect them at all costs.

Well, it's about 3:30am here so I'm headed of to bed. Have a good night BK. Thanks!

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Mornin' all!

Mopey, I just read your post. I am so sorry you are having such a hard time. Don't worry, W2S will expose to her very soon.

More importantly, what can we do for YOU. Are you on ADs? Have you been to any kind of councelling? You shouldn't have to be miserable and depressed. We are here for you if you need to talk. Just email W2S and let us know what you need.

What is he trying to do to help you recover? Or is it just the same junk he's been saying through the years to keep you hangning on? I think you would be able to start getting better if he were truly sincere! Or is the trust that far gone that it doesn't matter what he says or how sincere he is (would be understandable). I know you are trying to do the right thing by your kids by staying together, but you deserve to be happy.

(((((((mopers)))))))


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(((((((LALA)))))))) At least these ones don't hurt....so we’ll give you another one....

((((((((((((((((LALA))))))))))))))))))

Oh dear, I'm all choked up thinking of the pain you must be in. My SIL had one that went well and I remember the pain she was in. I'm sorry we can't all be by your side with W2S, because we could all sing kum-ba-ya. (I hope that one at least put a smile on your face). Ok I'm tearing up here, thank your hubby for that. All kidding aside, I'll find a special prayer for you tonight. My thoughts are with the both of you, take care the best you can.

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You're a good man W2S!!!


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Thank you much! I am in agony. Just stopped in to say hi. So depressed over the pain, I cannot even speak. DH hates seeing me like this...when will it ever stop?


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