Is it not true that you pushed her last week after she destroyed some of your stuff?

AW.....

If you knew your kids were safe right now.....what would be your next step?

Why all of the sudden, does ROBERT disappear? He knows something about all of this, I know it...he won't answer my questions about himself? Why not Robert?

I will not edit my posts. I am a passionate person, and I won't sugarcoat my language for people with sensitive eyes. It's the way I talk in real life....FB has a "potty mouth" too, so grow up and get over it.

she does. The BEST thing he could do right now is start working towards dealing with his aggression. His children are safe...as is his wife. How he deals with these next hours and days will go a long way towards determining the type of man he truly is.

AW...I understand your panic...I have seen it a thousand times. Controllers display aggressive and unreasonable behaviors when they see that their illusion of control is beginning to crumble. Your kids are safe, your wife is safe. That should be of utmost importance to you right now. Until you are honest with yourself...nothing will change.

If you need help dealing with your anger, I can offer you some resources. If not, as I said, your best bet is to deal with the police and an attorney.

My next step is my decision, I won't share that here, I need to know where they are and why...and when they will be back...ETC.

Do you talk this way to your wife too?

We do get it, AW. Your assumption that we don't understand where you are at right now is erroneous.

You won't look out for your own self-respect by editing your posts. You call it passionate...you excuse being a verbal abuser by circumstance...which is what abusers do.

I know. I remember. It's what I did.

Then you attack others here who are brave enough to post to you in your own best interest...because you have hit a level so you permit yourself to abuse.

That's the whole thing, AW. That's where whether or not FB's story is all true, partially true or not...right now, you are NOT safe to be around. You permit yourself to talk this way any time...because FB does.

If you would stop and breathe, and stop acting out...you would be able to consider that you're reacting instead of acting...continues the cycle you've been in all your life. Not who you want to be...not how you want to act...through justifications and entitlement. You were looking to break this cycle, that was my perception.

You can't make anyone tell you anything...you know this. We all live under the same limit...and power.

Bringing reality...not conflict. Asking you to take many moments to breathe, to choose to believe your kids are safe right now...and to know your limits.

God is with you...with your BW and your children.

LA

Gawd, I hate it when I let myself get drawn back here...

AW:

When you got your username, you agreed 2 certain things, not the least of which is no fowl (I like birds) language. Also, if you know medc's name for whatever reason, it is still inappropriate for you 2 post it here.

I can assure you that your posts will be edited as soon as the moderators are aware of them. It'd be far more honorable if you edited them yourself, first.

I agree, we don't know you, so we're making assumptions from what you and your W have told us.

First good advice anyone gets in si2ations like this is 2 calm down.

2nd, contact authorities if you're in some kind of crisis si2ation (which you say you've done).

3rd, get professional marriage help, okay?

-ol' 2long

Okay. That is how you "have been." But now as a recent born-again believer, how is continuing in this vein conducive to "conforming your life" to one of "Christ-likeness?"

I asked you about this sort of thing on your original thread. Do you want to discuss this at all and how it might relate to your current situation?

2long, I agree pretty much with all of your post...well except for the quoted. medc has signed off posts before using that name...Kinda like what a judge often tells a defense attorney..."..You opened the door, counsellor..."

I agree with you 2long.

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Sucks getting dragged back into this sort of stuff, doesn't it?

Hope you are doing well, 2long.

AW,

Please listen to these people who are trying to get you to calm down.

As for your language, it doesn't bother me, my husband swears like a sailor, always has. I swear when I get upset, and if my spouse had left and taken my DD, believe you me, I would be extremely upset, too.

Please think of your children, and what can you do to lessen this drama for them. I imagine that your fears are nothing compared to what is going on their minds.

You have more power than you know. Now is not a time for reacting out of fear. It is a time to calm down, be still and determine what you can do right now, that will most assuredly change the course of things for you all in the future. Least of whom are your children.

I don't like to see anyone in fear, or in pain, even when it might be from their own poor choices and past behavior.

2long, using my name is okay. I have used it here before...quite a few people off board also know me and my first/last name.

Thanks.

I happen to live in Plano and I know that if you feel like your children are in danger the police there are VERY GOOD at responding. They'll even issue an Amber Alert.

But... they are also VERY GOOD in determining what's what. If you speak to them the way you're speaking to us here, you will lose your credibility.

I'm sure FB and your kids are fine. Calm down. Take a deep breath. Call your pastor. You guys need serious intervention.

PM..can you email me?

MEDC, glad there wasn't actually a problem.

I had not remembered seeing you use your first name, and thought the way he used it seemed inappropriate and out of anger. Tit for tat kind of thing.

If he didn't see it somewhere else, his motivation was wrong even if he caused no actual damage.

AW, I hope you listen to the excellent advice you are getting here. You have a chance to change yourself, and I hope you take it.

MEDC, you've got mail.

thanks, you do too.

Look......you say WE don't understand. Stop for a Minute Some if not most of us here ARE PARENTS. Yes I have had an instance where my XH did not pick up our son from daycare and when I went to pick him up I was enraged. BUT I took a moment to stop, step back, and calm myself to think rationally.

Think about this:

Would your wife do the right thing to make sure your children are safe (and don't come back with the they are safe with me line).

Children need a loving safe CALM enviornment. Living in a home where mom and dad argue and it is tense every waking moment is not good for them.

Secondly you had better not be thinking about suicide EVER again. Do you even stop to realize what that would do to your children. Do you undrestand they question why you chose that route every day of there lives...I have watched my best friend go through this. DO NOT take the cowards way out or even think about it. Your children and your wife....YOUR FAMILY come first.

Now acting so irrational isn't going the help you help your situation. The police will do what they can but the calmer you are the faster service and help you will recieve (wise words of yoda they are).Dealing with someone who is cussing and swearing will only make your anger issue more prominent and but people on the defensive and less likely to help.

If I came on scene to a Domestic with a person ranting like that OMG would I be watching for a problem to occure. It makes you look unstable and WILL go into a report...come on you were training to be an officer you should know this.

If my husband was acting like this honestly I would not want to talk to him until he could calm down and control himself. And the courts would probally agree that removing the children from the situation was a good thing. It's the responsible and mature thing to do.Your hapiness does not out weigh the safety of your children.

yes you are upset but you need to calm the freak down man and handle this like a rational adult. Your not gonna get anywhere way your going.

You BOTH need to start communicating like adults and stop the verbal and physical abuse and contact. What are you teaching your children? Do you want them growing up insecure and depressed or inspired and happy?

MEDC, you've got mail. It's done.