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#2002364 01/03/08 04:04 PM
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What is the nature of respect?

In my work and other aspects of life, I have learned that there are certain kinds of respectful practices that can make for smoother negotiations.

There are ways of talking with others that keep lines of respectful communication open, to the benefit of all.

Respect for time. If I ask for your time, if I am behaving respectfully, I will limit my use of your valuable time. And I will tell you that I wish to respect your time. This is especially true if I want anything from you in the business or political arena. I also respect my own time, and will limit your claims on it. Respect for time, communicated clearly, often allows an otherwise sensitive discussion to continue.

Example: If I want to negotiate the purchase of a new car, I know that this process will get out of control if I allow my time to be disrespected. So I don't let it happen. I know going in what my time limits are, and I communicate those limits clearly. Then I enforce them. The dealer who will not respect my time will not enter into any fruitful negotiations with me financially.

Question: Do my spouse and I practice respect for time with each other? (Respect for time includes allowing enough UA time to sustain the marriage.) Do I practice respect for time on MB?

Respect for opinions. I cannot emulate nor improve on Dr. Harley's discussion of disrespectful judgments. DJs are the bane of marriages, friendships, and internet forums. They poison public discourse and private negotiations.

Question: Do my spouse and I respect each other's opinions? Can we have a discussion about a subject on which we disagree without making DJs? What if we disagree about politics, for instance? Or where to go on vacation? Or how to handle a problem with a child? And on MB, do I practice respect in my posts? Do I have a boundary that anticipates I will receive respect from you as well? The words "With all due respect" are time-honored ways of soothing a disagreement. Disagreement about principles and ideas can be accomplished without disrespect.

I am sure there are other ways of showing respect or not; this is just a discussion starter.


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What a terrific post, Chrys. Thank you.

I'm thinking if I'm a good friend of conversation...for POJA with my DH. Do I respect his time? Do I respect mine?

I can't imagine I do since I didn't even think of respect in regards to time. Nor treat mine (sometimes me) as equally valuable as his...(I like your car negotiation example)...

I'm going to add to pleasant and safe...this respect of time and attention...wish Gimble were here to make it into a formula for me.

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And as for DJs...my ongoing battle with them, to myself, DH, my family, here on MB...well, is ongoing. One thing about MB...they sure sit there, staring back at me...

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LA, Could you elaborate on the "pleasant and safe" qualifiers of "respect for time and attention?"


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I was thinking of making conversation safe...Harley saying in POJA to be pleasant...safe for one another. Seems like your post worked right into that...respect each other's time...be O&H...safe without DJs...accept each other's opinions as just that...

In Harley's article on "Friends of Good Conversation"...

"The Friends of Good Conversation
Remember how it used to be? You and your wife used to be fascinated with each other. You would support and encourage each other. Empathy and understanding were almost effortless. You had many common interests to talk about. Somehow, you need to resurrect the kindness, consideration, empathy and interest you once shared in your conversations with each other.

Once you can talk to each other like that again, you will be meeting one of each other's most important emotional needs: The need for conversation. And if you can learn to do it well, you will deposit so many love units that you will become irresistible to each other again.

There are ways to make your conversation great. I call these the Friends of Good Conversation. If you incorporate these friends into the conversation you have with your spouse, you will get out of your rut. The first Friend of Good Conversation is using conversation to investigate, inform and understand your spouse. You and your spouse have not begun to exhaust all there is to know about each other. But, for some reason, you have stopped investigating. Your conversation has become predictable and uninteresting as a result.

I suggest that you investigate the facts of each other's personal histories, present experiences and plans for the future. Also investigate each other's attitudes and emotional reactions to those facts. You are bound to each other, through marriage, in a partnership that requires you to navigate through life with skill and coordination. Without conversation you will have neither, and your marriage may crash.

Why investigate? Why not just inform? Well, most of us don't just offer personal information about our deepest feelings. Someone must show an interest first. If you don't investigate with a genuine curiosity, your spouse is unlikely to share those feelings with you. Your curiosity about your spouse's thoughts and feelings is essential to her revealing them to you.

But curiosity is not all that's required. Trust is also essential. Your spouse must trust you with her personal feelings before she will expose them to you. I'll talk about building trust a little later when I get to the Enemies of Good Conversation.

Once personal information is requested, you should both inform each other of the facts of your personal histories, present experiences, plans for the future, and your attitudes and emotional reactions to all of those facts. To withhold accurate information about your inner self prevents intimacy and leaves the need for meaningful conversation unmet.

After you have investigated and informed each other of personal activities and feelings, you are in a position to understand each other. What motivates you and your spouse to do what you both do? What are your rewards, and what do you find punishing? What are your beliefs, and how are they put into practice? What are your most common positive and negative emotional reactions? What are your strengths and weaknesses? The list goes on and on. There is so much to know about each other, you will never get to know it all.

By reaching an understanding of each other, your conversation will break through the superficiality barrier. You become emotionally connected to each other, and able to bring out each other's best feelings, and avoid the worst. "Hidden agendas" are not possible because neither of you hide anything from each other.

The Second Friend of Good Conversation is developing interest in each other's favorite topics of conversation. Topics drive most conversations. We usually talk about something and this something keeps your conversation going. But we all like to talk about some topics more than others.

When you were dating, you probably tried to discover your wife's favorite topics of conversation, and she tried to discover yours. Then, you probably developed an interest in those topics so that your conversation would be more enjoyable.

Interests will change. Topics that may have interested your spouse when you were younger may have lost their attraction. Topics that were once completely boring, you may now find fascinating. Besides, you are encountering new topics almost every day.

You may have had compatible interests when you were first married, but have you kept up with each other's changing interests? Once you may have been able to talk for hours about mutual interests, now you may find yourselves struggling to find anything you have in common.

If that's the case, you must return to the mind-set you had when you were dating. In those days, you made an effort to talk about topics that your spouse found interesting, because you knew it would deposit love units. To make the conversation more interesting, you may have spent some time educating yourself on those topics. What may have started as an effort to be loved, may have turned into a genuine curiosity about subjects that interested your spouse.

I suggest that you make a mental note of subjects that interest your wife today, and educate yourself about those subjects. The same thing goes for your spouse, too. She should try to develop an understanding of some of your favorite topics of conversation.

What if both of you try to educate yourselves in each other's interests, and still find yourselves bored with certain subjects? There's no point in faking an interest in something that is truly boring to one of you, and there are literally hundreds of subjects that both of you will find interesting. So I suggest that after an initial effort, you abandon subjects that you do not find mutually interesting. The Policy of Joint Agreement can help you create an inventory of subjects that you both enjoy discussing (never talk about a subject without an enthusiastic agreement between you and your spouse).

The Third Friend of Good Conversation is balancing the conversation. Conversation is a two-way street. But if you try to turn it into a one-way road, it becomes a speech. Conversation is meant to be interactive.

There are important rules of conversational etiquette that must be followed when you talk to each other. Don't interrupt or try talking over each other. Make sure that you both have a chance to finish a thought before the other person responds. If you notice that one of you is talking more than the other, the more talkative spouse should pause to give the less talkative spouse a chance to talk more.

Balancing the conversation simply refers to the importance of equal participation from each of you. Any effort you make to insure balance will make the conversation much more enjoyable, and more interesting.

The Fourth Friend of Good Conversation is giving each other undivided attention. Some people feel that they can do several things at once, so while talking to their spouse, they try to do something else, too. But you can't have an intimate conversation when you divide your attention. It leaves your wife feeling that she is not important enough for your full attention, or that other tasks are more important than she is.

If you find it difficult to talk to your spouse with your undivided attention, it could be that you have allowed competing activities (like television) to ruin your opportunity to deposit love units. There's nothing quite as frustrating as trying to talk to a spouse whose mind is somewhere else.

Over the years, I have become increasingly convinced that couples must schedule time to give each other their undivided attention. If it's not on your schedule, you're not likely to do it. You will talk to each other on the fly, instead. And that doesn't deposit love units.

During courtship, I estimate that it takes about 15 hours a week of undivided attention for a couple to deposit enough love units to fall in love. Think back on your courtship. Without that amount of time for intimate conversation, I don't think you would have married.

But I bet you are not spending that kind of time now. In fact, it may only be about 15 minutes a week. How sad. I suggest that you correct the situation right now. Begin by working out a schedule with your wife so that you will have 15 hours of undivided attention from each other every week. The fifteen hours should include conversation, but it can meet other important emotional needs, too -- affection, sexual fulfillment, recreational companionship.

These four Friends of Good Conversation that I've just introduced to you will help you communicate with each other more effectively. They will also help you meet each other's need for conversation and deposit love units.

On the other hand, if you are not careful you can use conversation to do just the opposite. It can also withdraw love units. You and your spouse may need to talk to each other, but if you invite the Enemies of Good Conversation along, the pain will become so great that your conversation won't be worth the effort. You may even avoid talking to each other entirely. From what you have described to me in your letter, those enemies may have already landed, and secured a foothold."

Here's the link (and Enemies of Good Conversation follows):

Dr. Harley - Friends of Good Conversation Link

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LA,
Thanks. I am not a conversationalist. It is really hard for me to make small talk! My posts are sometimes brief.

One of the things I struggle with in conversation is not knowing what to say of I don't have anything big to say.


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