Is it an Iron Maiden song?? I found lyrics for one with that name and it doesn't sound....like you described.
There is another one by a group King's X, but I haven't looked up their lyrics yet.

I wanted to listen to it, if I could find it on the Internet.

Busted! Yes!

I did look at the lyrics again and they aren't exactly what I was remembering though, LOL!

They still fit, though, just differently. I have most of their lyrics memorized but that's a song I don't visit often.

It's on Brave New World, which is the song that was playing the day I pulled into the parking lot to meet OWH.

The song is called "Out of the Silent Planet" though. "The Wicker Man" is on the same album. That's a good one. I heard that one that day, too:

"Hand of fate is moving and the finger points to you.
He knocks you to your feet and so what are you gonna do?"

(first two lines)

LOL!

A really good upbeat one that's kinda almost like following the plans here, though is on Dance of Death. It's called "Wildest Dreams"

"I'm gonna organize some changes in my life.

I'm gonna exorcise the demons of my past."
(first two)

And later:

When I remember back to how that things just used to be,

And I was stuck inside a shroud of misery...

I felt I'd disappeared so deep inside myself,

I couldn't find a way to break away the ******...

THAT on is REALLY apt!

So yeah, Maiden is my secret vice. Well, not really secret. But I like them a lot. And they have a lot of integrity and aren't bunch of bs artists. They care about their fans, and they REALLY do!

I listen to many different genres but Maiden is and will likely always remain, my favorite rock band.

I met Bruce Dickinson before. He was so SWEET! Not what I expected at all. Janick Gers was there that night, too. I was with my mom and a friend. It was one of Bruce's solo tours.

So yeah, now I'm outed. LOL! Do you like Maiden? Rock in general?

I have yet to run into anyone here who does. I know there are a few Zepplin fans here, thanks to that thread the other week from Bob Pure. That was a fun thread.

Have a great day!

Charlotte

Hey Charlotte!

LOL! Yeah I thought it was kinda funny when I read it.

I like most Christian music, and Jimmy Buffett, Beastie Boys, Los Lonely Boys, Maroon 5, Natalie Merchant, Dave Matthews, Foreigner, old funk too like Slow Rider, Play that Funky Music white boy, just a variety...

so, what's your story again? Do you have a signature line with the nuts and bolts?

My WH just called my cell trying to break my Plan B, didn't answer. Then he called my work phone and I had my receptionist send him to VM. He's not going to be happy.

LOL!

Funny you should mention Play that Funky Music White Boy!! I've been listening to that a lot lately. And it's so good and funky, you can't NOT dance to it! Even in the middle of traffic! LOL!

I haven't put my story in my sig line but my whole thread is the whole thing. I guess I ought to figure out how to do that.

Yeah, I like funk a lot, too. And blues, some jazz...rock-o'course! I like mostly vintage stuff though rather than the newer stuff these days, even though there are a few here and there.

The Beatles, John Lennon (solo stuff, good "from the gut" stuff there!), Zepplin, Doobie Bros., Ozzy Osbourne, vintage Black Sabbath (they sing a lot about God even though there were accused of devil worship.), Glenn Miller, Benny Goodman, Stevie Ray Vaughan.....

classical, opera...oh heck! Just name everything but rap. And most C&W, except the vintage stuff. Well, truly, there are even a couple of rap songs or three that I tolerate, but one of them is by Tommy Chong! LOL! It's funny as heck!

I'm wondering when Mr. Gray will be trying to break my Plan B. I just have been having this feeling he's going to soon. Well, he kinda did the other day, sort of.

I don't know why I've been feeling this. Maybe I'm just nuts. Or maybe I'm picking up on his brain waves. Who knows? LOL

Good for you for being so strong when your WH tried to break yours. I sure hope I will be able to resist. Yeah, I will. It's so peaceful here in B. No craziness.

And part of me is afraid he's going to try and trick me by pretending he's sincere. So...until I see something real...that's it.

Stick to your guns, ladies!

Char...I am a HUGE rock fan. My fav is Disturbed, but I also like Nickelback, Staind, Daughtry, etc and DH and I are HUGE "hair band" fans. My fav was Motley Crue. I started with them at 14 yrs old and my parents were THRILLED!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
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Anyways, didn't want you to feel alone in the ROCK world.

Hang in there Goddesses!

Res aka LaLa,
I love it that you are on here trying to give us perspective and hope. I have a lot of respect for you.

Plus I loved the 80's hair days too! WOOHOO!!!!
I had a perm that could take on Jon Bon Jovi in his prime. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

And you gotta love Def Leopard and AC/DC if your gonna talk rock n roll. Hells Bells is muy favorito although it doesn't go too well with my Christian bands. Heck, I like most all...even Common, Biggie Smalls, Andre 3000 (R&B) and Rascal Flatts.

I'm happy to do all I can to help! It helps me too, ya know!

LOVE Def Leopard, although not so much with AC/DC. I do like a couple of their tunes, but never actually bought an album. DH and I went to see Nickelback with Disturbed and Daughtry this summer. It was awesome!

I also like a lot of the pop stuff...Christina Aguillera, Pink (LOVE her), Maroon 5, Rihanna, etc. We saw Christina third row last spring-she is my fav and it was my Christmas present from DH. It was right about the time she had to be finding out she was pregnant. She just had the baby, but she is pretty secretive, so noone knows if it's a boy/girl yet.

Thanks, Lala!!

Yeah, Motley Crue, LOL! I'll BET they were thrilled! LOL!

I saw them once in concert. I feel asleep! Go figure!! LOL! I did see Tommy's drum kit trick, though.

Yep, hangin' good in B here! No desire for contact. Just can't shake that feeling that HE will, though. Try to, anyway. Well, we'll see if it happens or I'm just nuts. It's not a feeling like I WANT it to happen, it just feels like it's going to.

Could be residuals from a dream I had the other night, though. No, I was having them before that, IIRC.

Anyway, Rock On!!!!!!

Charlotte

Yesterday my WH called me at work and on my cell.

No answer from me. I was strong.

Finally at home he called and I caved and answered. It was about our son.

He is supposed to pick up DS1 on Wednesdays but needed to change it to today for this week. To further that, he isn't supposed to drive b/c of a DUI so he wants me to bring DS1 to his work so he can take him on the bus home with him for his regular weekly visit. HUH?! I don't want my WH walking my baby from the bus stop to his house at 7pm at night. His apt isn't in the best area of town.

So do you guys think I should offer to drive him home? I wouldn't normally, since it is anti-plan B, but I really don't want my son at night walking in ghetto-ville.

If I suggest we just wait until next week and skip this week's visit, he will think I am keeping DS away from him out of spite.

Hi Free,

I don't have any advice I'm afraid, as you know I've only just entered plan B myself.

Isn't it strange how WH's suddenly have to change plans once we enter plan B tho? I can understand your concern at having your young child out at night in a not so nice area. Can't your WH get someone to give him a lift, does he really have no choice but to get a bus?

Anyway, I'm thinking of you, stay strong and dark!

Tarnsy

freeto..
what was your plan for him to see the children knowing that your husband doesn't drive...

ARK

Ark,
hello, thought you'd forgotten about me.

He alternates driving and taking the bus until he gets his license back. I told him to just plan on driving on the days he picks up Nicholas. Sounds like a logical plan dontcha think?!

He says this particular week his van is low on gas, which is legitimate. I am sure he fully expects me to offer to give him a ride. I mean, I can't put my son in that situation and I think he knows that and is using it to his advantage. But I can't stand it that I feel I am catering to him and "jumping to" his needs either.

My options are to tell him wait until next week, or drive him. Either way I don't like it.

I just don't like him right now. Last Friday he was late picking up our DS b/c he picked up his other son first and he ate dinner over there with the OW. Making his baby wait up until 9:30pm until he got him for the weekend. His selfishness just irritates me to no end.

freeto..
if he doesn't have his license how would it be OK for him to drive with the children......

also sometimes we over dramatize...is it really too dangerour to walk with the child home...with a grownup...

why do you have to give him a ride...what about five bucks for gas...

EXCEPT the guy doesn't have a license....
and he doesn't have one due to DUI....

you drive the child to his place.....
walk the child to the door and turn and leave...
OR
take a friend with you
and have them walk the child to the door..

ARK

freeto

I have some grave concerns about your recovery plan..
what is the plan that allows him access to the child...with limited access to the ex...

ARK

He has one of those hardship licenses where he can drive to work, school or daycare, but nothing else.

I am not over dramatizing. The only place he could find and afford was in a bad part of town. Walking at night would be scary.

then send gas money with the child and be done with this...

OR
drive the child and have someone with you to walk to the door...

ARK

I have thought about that. But right now I am trying to get back my OWN life and not center my thoughts, actions, etc around what he is doing.

Those two could do an intermediary thing, or I could ride in the car with them when he picks his son up, or they could meet at a public place. Those were things that were done during his FALSE recovery with me, and it worked pretty well, but didn't last. He said he felt like a child and that he was constantly having to "check in" with me. Well, um that's what you get, alien in a fog!
It WAS torture to see her ugly face.

IDK...maybe it would just never work b/c it would be too hard to trust him, and I know I would have to eventually do that and let him pick his son up on his own. <sigh>

Well he needs to be more prepared on the days that he is getting our son and budget his GAS money accordingly!

I am sure I will end up picking him up from work and taking him and our son to his house. He is foiling my Plan B! I just won't talk much, or even at all, on the way there. Good idea on taking a friend, but it is right at most people's dinnertime. I hate imposing.

After this I will have a full week of being dark until next visitation day. I will really need to keep busy.

Some nights at home are just so lonely and boring. Time to make a list of house projects to get accomplished.

Hi Free! The only way to do a dark Plan B when there are children involved is to have a mediator. Find someone and give THEM gas money to take the child back and forth. Make sure you are keeping a journal. I may be completely off base, but I have seen many friends go through a D, and the courts don't exactly smile on a parent who cannot even come up with transportation (especially due to a DUI) and gas money to see their kids. Don't know what the laws are like in your state, but if you keep a journal, your lawyer can use all of that info in court if it does come down to a D.

How are you doing today?

Oh, I was just crying at lunch. Seriously, it's daily and sometimes hourly.

He just called to confirm tonight's plans and when I told him I didn't want him our son to walk the 10 mins from the bus stop to his apartment, he said I was trying to control him. I said noooo, I'm looking out for Nicholas. He said that I don't trust him and I should have more faith in him, etc. generally making me feel bad. I told him I did trust him, but seriously...it is in the downtown of our city and he knows it isn't the safest area.

I told him either we'd wait until next week or that I would pick him up and drive both of them to his house. He said, you just told me you didn't want to talk to me and now you are offering to take me home?

Yes, quit confusing to myself too.

I said I'm doing this for Nicholas, so our son can spend time with you....pause...maybe next week you should budget your gas money better.

I told him that he shouldn't ever leave his son waiting like he did last Sunday either...just so he could eat dinner over there with his lover. He told me to quit bringing up the past and I said it'd be easier to do that if you quit throwing it in my face. An argument ensued and then he hung up on me.

It is hard when you are so emotional to calm down in the face of someone being so disagreeable. I have to practice a monotone voice.

You see, I spent months doing Plan A, but I didn't know what it was called b/c I hadn't found MB yet. I suggested we go watch the sun rise right after I found out what he did, when I was pg. I made him lunch and brought it to his work. I wrote him poems, I learned to make flan, his favorite dessert. I rubbed his shoulders in the middle of the night, read books, prayed for him solely.
And all I got was just meanness. The ring thing, him telling the OW all about issues I was having with my 16yr old dau., so many many lies. He set his alarm at 10pm one night when I was out of town so he could wait for my call and pretend to be staying at home, then leave to go be with her. Just calculated, planned things when I was loving him as hard as I could.

We had several false recoveries, where he pledged and apologized and swore it wouldn't happen again, and then it did.
So anytime I have to DO for him, I feel very much like he may be taking advantage of me again, and I can't let that happen anymore. I was really strong to get the injunction and I hadn't even been offered my current job yet. Just did it on a wing and a prayer.

How's recovery coming along for you and your H?
What was it that made you turn the tide and want to reconcile?