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I am new here but have been lurking for a week or so. Looks like the place to be.

I am a 49 year old male(law-enforcement),Married to a 49 year old women(nurse)for 18 years. We had a 12 year old son that died in July from suicide and I found him. I am mostly intelligent except I have my moments. We had what most people would considered a great marriage and family. We did everything together as a family and we very seldom did anything alone and liked it that way. There is no infidelity that I know of from either of us. My wife is a devote Mennonite and has a very good religious belief and tries to go to church regularly.I go to church with her once in awhile but she wanted me to go more often. I have a very strong belief in god but I have a very hard time with hypocrisy in the church and her family.

My wife was 31 years old and living at home with her parents when I meet her and she was comfortable with them and her mom taking care of her. Her mom is very controlling and dominate and she is comfortable with that and is very close to her mom. She hates her dad and with good reason. I caught him looking at child porn on the Internet twice and I am now suspecting that she may be an incest victim and I know for a fact that she was sexually assaulted by a boyfriend in high school which resulted in an abortion. She never told anyone including her mom until I got it out of her while we were dating. She represses all most all of her negative experiences and holds them inside of her and will not get into them very deep.

We have had our fights and she is very passive and lacks common since but is very intelligent. I am the dominate one and I usually end up yelling at her because she doesn't see that the way she did something was wrong. Like driving on a flat tire three times and ruining three tires and one wheel putting her in danger of an accident, or hitting a car and then leaving the scene without calling the police,bringing home narcotics from the hospital on accident and then not worrying about it. There are allot more incidents like these and when we fight she will not talk or acknowledge that something is wrong and needs to be changed and if I ask her for a solution she has no idea and just wants to be loved. So we didn't get anything settled and just went around in a circle. I would get mad and not talk or be affectionate with her for a couple of days which hurt her but I get so frustrated about not working anything out.

When our son died she was very strong and held together well on the outside but did not deal his death inside and then it started to catch up to her. I fell apart but I did start dealing with it and I am doing ok with it now. At first we supported each other and cried allot together. Then I started to turn away from her instead into her and I moved ahead with recovering from his death. Even today I am not sure why I turned away from her.

In early November I asked her to leave for a couple of weeks because I needed some space from her. She refused and told me that we were not getting a divorce and she was not leaving. I did not want a divorce just some space to figure out what was wrong with me. She started to cry and let some feelings out and it melted my heart and I fell in love with her all over again but that only lasted for about five days and we again went back to the old of her needing me too much and me wanting space. I really started to pull away and wouldn't hold her hand, hug her and eventually talking stopped. Again I am not sure why I did this other than out of frustration.

I flew her childhood girl friend that she hadn't seen in 32 years out here to stay with us for a week. On Thanks giving we had a big fight and she got upset about me not going with them to her parents. I did not care if she and her friend went I just can not stand her dad and can not pretend he is ok like her and the rest of her family do. On November 27 we took her girl friend to the airport and came home. My wife told me she was going to gas up her car and left.

She did not come home and I went to work when I got home she was still gone. The next day I called her mom and she told me that she was not there. When I told her that I was filing a missing person report and that her daughter maybe suicidal she fessed up that she was there. I got mad and yelled at her mom on the phone and told her not to bother to come home. She did come home four days later but I had changed the locks on the door and that really ticked her off. We have not said a word to each other since then except through the attorney's. She filed for a divorce and that was fine with me and what I thought we needed to do.

It has been good to be away from her but I am really missing her and have had the time to now understand some but not all of what I was feeling and needing some space. I would like for her to come home but I am not in a hurry and honestly feel that we need a little more time apart. I had my attorney offer reconciliation but have not heard from her or if she is interested in reconsiliation. I really don't know if she wants to or not. I do love her and I think I am in love with her but I do not want to go back to the old marriage and I don't know if she can stop suppressing her feeling and let them out so that we have a deep relationship. I now know that is what I was missing in the marriage not just the holding hands type of affection and sex but the deep honest sharing.

Our sex life was satisfying and she did not have any hangups even with her background. I want there to be more passion from me for her in our sex life but have never been able to find it and we never talked about it. I know that I have to stop getting mad and yelling(verbal abuse) at her and I am aware of many more changes I need to and want to change and I think I know what I need from her and what she needs to change. I am having allot of mixed feelings about all of this. Sometimes I think we can work it out but other times I have severe doubts.

So my questions are what the heck is going on with us and does it sound like we can we save our marriage and make it a much better one? Sorry for the long post I promise I won't do it again.

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Welcome to marriagebuilders. Your post belongs over on the emotional needs board. You are CRAZY to get a divorce - please copy and paste it over there. You will get lots of help on how YOU can change and in turn she will change. Your marriage sounds like it could readily be saved. Please don't wait, or you may regret it.

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I would have missed you post but another poster sent me over because I have also lost a son. He dies thirteen years ago. He was eight.

My advice to you is to ask your wife to come home and attend a Compassionate Friends meeting with you. This is an organization and a support group for parents who have lost children. This is a national organization with chapters all across the US. You should find a meeting to attend near you home.

The first year after a child dies, you are for all practical purposes, not playing with a full deck. You will not realize this until years later when you look back at the crazy things you thought and the irrational things you did; and you remember how they made perfect sense for you at this time.

There is a book, a memoir called "The Year of Magical Thinking" by Joan Didion, a famous novelist and journalist. It is a personal account of the grief, loss and craziness she experienced after the death of her husband.

This is likely a normal human response to the loss...a survival mechanism because we all go through it.

My advice to you would be to not make any life-altering decisions at this time because these decisions cannot be rationally made and are rarely in your best interest. These decisions would include, getting a divorce or a legal separation, moving, changing jobs or religions, going back to school, taking up a new hobby, etc.

When I attended Compassionate Friend's meeting after my son died, I met many parents who lost children to all kinds of deaths: disease, accident and suicide. The parents who lost children to suicide had the hardest time of all.

As far as your withdrawal from your wife goes, this is a very common response. So is clinging to a spouse. If one spouse withdraws and the other gets clingy, the clingy one usually pushes the withdrawing one further away. This makes the clingy one more desperate and a downward spiral ensues.

It is good to hear that you have identified you issues with AO's.

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We have had our fights and she is very passive and lacks common since but is very intelligent. I am the dominate one and I usually end up yelling at her because she doesn't see that the way she did something was wrong. Like driving on a flat tire three times and ruining three tires and one wheel putting her in danger of an accident, or hitting a car and then leaving the scene without calling the police,bringing home narcotics from the hospital on accident and then not worrying about it. There are allot more incidents like these and when we fight she will not talk or acknowledge that something is wrong and needs to be changed and if I ask her for a solution she has no idea and just wants to be loved. So we didn't get anything settled and just went around in a circle. I would get mad and not talk or be affectionate with her for a couple of days which hurt her but I get so frustrated about not working anything out.

This paragraph tells me that you have been judging your wife very disrespectfully in your marriage. I suspect that you are realizing this now that your are becoming familiar with MB principals. We all do stupid things. I'm certain you have done stupid things yourself.

When I do something stupid, my husband does not yell at me, pick a fight or punish me by withdrawing his affection. A marriage and a family needs to be a safe place to fall. When you insist that your wife has done some thing stupid, she does not talk and does not acknowledge she needs to change because she is deeply hurt by your unloving behavior toward her. This can also cause serious depression, self-esteem issues, motivation, self-loathing, etc. especially in fragile personalities.


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Thank you for responding! I thought I posted my reply to you last week but it did not post for some reason.

I am all ready involved with compassionate friends and it does help. Most of our and my friends don't feel that my wife is dealing with a full deck right now. She will not talk to me and she has a history of when she is mad she refuses to talk to the person.

You are correct that I have been wrong in the way I have talked to her. But I knew it before I started reading here. But this site is very helpful. We have had several small problems compared to what others have on this site until our son died. We were a very loving and tight family that did everything together as a family. I do love her very much and respect so many things about her. I do not know how to tell her all of this and that is why I wanted to just seperate for a short time. I truley do not understand what the ****** is going on with her and why she is doing this now. I also do not know how to turn this around at this point when she refuses to talk and understand what is and was going on with me and the way I truley feel about her. Another problem I am having now is that even though I do love her I sometimes feel it is time to move on with my life and heal my hurt from the death of our son.

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Thank you! I know this whole situation is crazy and I really want to save our marriage but right now I don't know how.


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Welcome to marriagebuilders. Your post belongs over on the emotional needs board. You are CRAZY to get a divorce - please copy and paste it over there. You will get lots of help on how YOU can change and in turn she will change. Your marriage sounds like it could readily be saved. Please don't wait, or you may regret it.


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