MEDC,

I hope you will take this as the respectful request it is meant to be: Would you please remove Stellakat's quote from your tag line?

??? <goes to see>

You never know the hurt that might be behind that quote. Was she raped? Did she have an unplanned pregnancy and her husband told her to abort the child or he would leave her and their other children? Did a boyfriend dump her when she said she was pregnant?

In a book, Stephen Covey writes of being on a subway train when a father had children running around and making enough noise that it was clear the children were bothering people. His irritation toward the father for being oblivious to the noise turned to compassion in an instant. And why? The father told him that he was taking his children home from the hospital where they had been to see their mother pass away.

If she was raped, that is still no excuse for literally wishing rape on other people.

People like myself.

No excuse at all. A person who wishes harm on another -- is it possible she has been terribly harmed? If you focus on the wish, you don't take the opportunity to show care for someone who has been terribly hurt. I have never been raped. I don't know how it might feel. Still, her statement is outrageous -- it is a show of rage. I bet there is something behind the statement, if we knew what it is like to walk in her shoes, that would be similar to finding out that a father who let his children run wild on a train had just seen his wife pass away.

I will reserve my sympathy for the people upon whom she wished to be RAPED because they do not support her pro-abortion views. They deserve sympathy, not her.

SC, thank you for being respectful in your request that I change my signature line. For now, I intend to leave it as is..but will consider removing it.

I would like an explanation from SK as to why she made such a vulgar remark in the first place.

MEDC,

What is your objective in keeping that quote in your signature? That is, what do you want the result to be? Now, what are the chances that your desired result will occur? Finally, is the chance to achieve your desired objective worth the pain you might be causing other people who read that quote every time you post? (People with whom you have no beef and whom you might even want to help)

These aren't rhetorical questions. I am not sure what your objective is, and so I have no idea how likely you are to achieve it this way. However, whatever your objective, I honestly wonder how it can be worth the pain you are causing other people on this board.

Curious, I'm not sure why you feel I owe you an explanation. I said everything I plan on saying on this topic. As far as it causing other people pain...that seems a bit dramatic to me. A rhetorical question for you is...what pain could my quoting a ridiculous statement like that cause another???

The only targeted audience in the comment are pro life people.

Hi I wish to answer so as not to cause hurt when I never meant to hurt anyone.

NO I DON'T WISH RAPE ON ANY HUMAN BEING OR EVEN AN ANIMAL! WHO WOULD WISH RAPE ON ANYONE? A PSYCHOPATH? I AM NOT A PSYCHOPATH. VERY VERY FEW HUMAN BEINGS WOULD WISH RAPE ON ANY OTHER HUMANS. EXCEPT MAYBE RAPISTS. THEY WISH TO RAPE OTHERS.

WHO THOUGHT I WAS INSANE AND WOULD ACTUALLY WISH RAPE ON OTHER PEOPLE???? I QUESTION YOUR JUDGEMENT TAKING WHAT I SAID THAT WAY. IF I WAS THAT INSANE AND MEAN I WOULD NOT BE ON EN BOARD FOR YEARS TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE.

If you could hear me when I said this what I meant was "YOU try and be raped THEN see how you feel about things."

I was being rehtorical.(sp) Like, "YOU" see how it feels, THEN give your opinion.

I was saying it partly because my opinions were shaped by my best girlfriend. She was raped at age 14 by her stepfather and forced to have the baby. It was very traumatic to everyone and hurt my friend terribly. She still picks bad men to date and has 4 divorces under her belt at this time. Her "daughter born of the rape" had 8 abortions (so far) and picks bad men to father her (3) living children, men who wont stick around, men who are criminals.

I dont mind a bit explaining myself here but I should not really have to. Very very few folks on a marriage board would actually WISH OTHER HUMANS BE RAPED! I mean, who would wish that pain on another human?! NO ONE> At least NO ONE HERE>

Oh I did not see the quote until now. MED is misquoting me on purpose. For her or his own pleasure.....for some reason.

Medc, why are you deliberately misquoting me so it makes it look like I am for rape? (there must be a reason you are doing this)

I dont mind about being misquoted and my meaning being twisted. It does not bother me. But it might hurt others on MB......


I dont know what good it does to misquote a poster and then twist thier words into something totally WEIRD!!!!! lol!

That quote is exact.

Lie all you want to cover up your words...but many here saw them and commented on them.

You did not finish the statement. Just like people who pull a part of a verse from the Bible to change its meaning but miss the rest of it.

the entire post was...

"Whoever does not want legalized abortion should be raped, become pregnant, and then have to pop out a 12 pound bowling ball out in pain and anguish. Often men are against abortion because there is no risk that THEY will ever have to have (or often not have to raise) a baby.

Men should have no opinion at all about it, it is not thier body! So why do they have an opinion unless they got a woman pregnant and really really want to raise the baby....even then it is the woman's choice even then.

Why do men even get involved at all in fighting to make abortion illegal?"

MEDC;

I hope you'll consider removing it.

I don't mind the threads about this topic -- I just choose to avoid them, because I feel this board is not the place for it. But I simply don't read or participate.

By quoting that in your signature, you are bringing the argument everywhere on this board.

I'm not expressing any views on this topic whatsoever -- but I would like to join SC in requesting that you keep the arguments in one place and not in your signature.

We've had so much divisiveness on this board already...

Thanks Medc, I was looking for that post and could not find it. I have it in word somewhere in its completeness.

""Whoever does not want legalized abortion should be raped, become pregnant, and then have to pop out a 12 pound bowling ball out in pain and anguish. Often men are against abortion because there is no risk that THEY will ever have to have (or often not have to raise) a baby."

Men should have no opinion at all about it, it is not thier body! So why do they have an opinion unless they got a woman pregnant and really really want to raise the baby....even then it is the woman's choice even then.

Why do men even get involved at all in fighting to make abortion illegal?"



**OK, what I meant here was that some people who fight against legaliZed abortion should first, put themselves in the shoes of a woman who has been raped and forced to have the child. Like my friend. I have tried to help my friend heal from her childhood and she has gone to many therapists. But she has not healed yet and is 38 years old.

(If you want to believe that I ACTUALLY want others to be raped then you have problems!)

I agree my syntax and wording here in this is "coloquial" sometimes. But I am not a rapist nor would I ever ever ever wish rape on my worst enemy or any human being.

I mean who WOULD wish such a thing on others? It is like one of the most terrible things....in the world...

Anyhow medc, thanks for helping me clear this up!!! I appreciate it.

ok....... so how did he quote you out of context? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

I ALMOST GIVE UP!

Do you believe I want people to be raped even though I have explained I do not?

He only said a few words of my post making you think I love it when people are raped. You can twist anything.

Have you ever heard a person get excited and try to make a point?

however, Stella, I do applaud you for clarifying. That would be a horrendous evil to wish on anyone.