Schoolbus,

Well, I for one try hard not to crowd everyone into the same box. I hold the probably unpopular view around here that all marriages were not meant to be and that trying to stay together in every instance is a mistake. Given the length of the current McCain marriage, maybe it is a better match than his first marriage. Frankly, we don't know how his XW felt, maybe she was just as happy to have the marriage end. I know that in my 1st marriage, I wouldn't have cared one bit if my XH had moved on prior to our divorce. Well actually he did, because we were separated for nearly 7 years before we divorced ... nother story.

I do not condone infidelity and think that it is a horrible way to deal with an unhappy marriage. Unfortunately, many couples do marry for the wrong reason especially when they are still in the passion stage.

When the passion cools down, some people are left looking at their spouse and wondering what they ever saw in them.

I can certainly understand that perhaps neither Sen McCain or his BXW were the same people and perhaps that is why they remain friendly even now. My XH and I had nothing in common other than the fact that we were both Army Officers and over time we merely occupied the same residence. Neither of us were happy and we ultimately divorced.

I don't think there is ever a situation where an affair is the right thing to do. I always understood that even before I became a BS. I just never imagined the amount of pain that came with it. We see it here everyday and I only wish that potential WS could catch a glimpse of what they are about to bring on to another person.

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Schoolbus,

What happened to McCain in Vietnam is irrelevant.

How exactly did his torture prevent him from filing for a divorce from his handicapped wife before******some young thing in a motel?

I'm having trouble finding the connection between having his elbows tied behind his head, and **********edit******a GIRL half his age after he got back.

I don't pretend to know what he went through in the POW camp, but I'd rather endure 5 years of torture than become crippled for life AND be a cast-aside BS like his first wife. SHE'S the one who's suffered the most in that situation, not McCain.

He's just one more member of the "family values" party who wouldn't know family values if he tripped on them.

Krazy, I will once again suggest that you monitor the use of vulgar language in your posts.

I edited the one foul word....


You are going to be awfully busy if you desire no foul language on this BB. There sure is plenty of it.

"I hold the probably unpopular view around here that all marriages were not meant to be and that trying to stay together in every instance is a mistake. Given the length of the current McCain marriage, maybe it is a better match than his first marriage."

HUH? You hold a view similar to my ex husband. He seems to have thought of a marriage as a holding period where he had the opportunity to scout around for a "better match", while all the while enjoying the benefits of a wife.

If John McCain had DIVORCED his wife before he lined up her successor, I would have more sympathy.

Ok, I need to ask this. Is this true? Obama was raised Muslim? and he is a convert to this church?

This church claims to have a non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA, but what about America?

I'm just curious if the rumors are true.

Where can I read the information to back up this story on John McCain?

Obamma belongs to a church that if it was a "white" church would be considered racist. Since he is part of a minority, the media will not dare raise this issue...but his views are a great concern.

I do not know if he was in fact raised Muslim...BUT, his middle name is Hussein (after his father who was a devout Muslim..his father is deceased).

Obama was raised as a Christian by his white mother and did not know his father.

He denounces those views of his church.

My H read his autobiography several years ago, entitled "Dreams from my Father". He found the book to be WONDERFUL and INSPIRATIONAL and became a fan way back then..in the midst of our early recovery, in fact. I'll see if I can dig up some more information from the book which I just put my hands on a minute ago but have not read.

Obama's Kenyan father was an atheist who'd been raised Muslim. Obama's parents separated when he was two years old. His Indonesian stepfather was not religious. When Obama was 10 years old he moved from Indonesia to Hawaii and lived there with his maternal grandparents through high school.

Well alrighty then Graycloud has got it in a nutshell!

I'm loving his book. I think I'll read it today!!

Mimi, please provide some type of reference for this.

Also, have you made yourself aware of his radical abortion position? This does not in any way support his "Christian" walk.

He goes on to say:



This is why I'm growing to ADMIRE him, his belief in a UNITED States of America. I believe in RESPECTING others' beliefs.

The Church that Obama belongs to publishes a magazine...Trumpet. Last year they gave an award to Faraakhan. Now, after the shtf, Obama issued a press release saying he did not agree with Farrakhan's anti-semitic remarks...BUT, let us NOT cloud the issue. Obama belongs to a church that is racist and awarded a man that has expressed a hatred for all white people...especially Jews. He actually said that the "white man is an enemy to us all."

Any white candidate that aligned them-self in any way with a church like that would be crucified in the media. Obama's color makes him get a free pass.

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I'm sorry Mimi, is that the refernce that you are using to denounce those beliefs of his church??? If so, I fail to see it.

His will is NOT what Obama is following at all. If it was, would he support killing children Mimi? Unless of course you now believe that a Christian will receive direction from the Lord that it is ok to kill a child.

Really? So does this mean you could vote for a man that has a hand in killing children? Do you honestly feel you can call yourself a child of God if you do this.

IMHO, there is NO such thing as a Christian pro choice person.

Ed: Apologies MEDC, this comment was impolite.

No. I would not vote for a man who has a HAND in KILLING CHILDREN.



I definitely am a CHILD OF GOD and LOVE MY LORD AND SAVIOR. We have a PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP.



I respect your opinion just like I said..I respect others' beliefs. GOD IS LOVE. I strive to LOVE ALL GROUPS of PEOPLE, regardless of race, religion, gender or whatever...or if their beliefs are different than mine...

Believer,




That statement is patently incorrect. It is not my view. I simply don't believe that everyone choses wisely when they marry and that they sometimes end up with a happier marriage the second time around.

You obviously don't feel that your first choice was the best since you are unwilling to consider a reconciliation with your XH. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame you, and I hope that the future only brings you happiness.

I never said that having an affair while married was an acceptable way to see what else is out there.

I repeat, below from my 1st post on this thread.




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