I really don't expect her mom to give her an honesty reply, if any. More likely it will be a deflection ... something to the effect, "Dad is just trying to turn you against me," but I'm prepared for that (it's her style).

Pablo, thank goodness you are smart enough to not let that bother you. When she grows up, she will realize what you did for her and appreciate it. I was in a similar situation [dad was wayward] when I was a child and I eventually smartened up and realized it was my mother who really loved me. She will catch on eventually.

Pablo, I have to commend you, as well. Sometimes a BS's fog is just as thick as their WS, of course in a different way. And BS fog usually leads to paralysis when action is needed.

You have totally stood up here and taken charge, and deserve an ovation.

Pablo
when I was some what younger I was involved in Child protection a fair bit and this type of problem with one parent .... and it was both mums & dads .... with a OP who was a threat to the child .... the counsellors always told the kids the truth... age appropriate of course ... and also told them that no matter what the problem mum or dad said, that a magistrate sitting in court had considered ALL the info before them and HAD decided that there was a threat to them and thats why they granted the protection order. That they didn't hand them out unless they had some evidence of a threat.
Sometimes it helped .... sometimes it didn't. But maybe it will help if she feels confused. In other words it's not only you and the counsellor who are concerned.

You are doing the right thing never doubt it in the months to come. As she grows your DD will be so grateful.

Excellent point!

I have to tell you all how much you have all helped me. I would like to think that I'm not doing anything that no other well meaning parent would do. I do have periods of fog and paralysis daily. This is not easy stuff. In fact the hardest thing I've ever dealt with. And trying to cope with this, the grief of losing the wife in this way, while at the same time dealing with her illogical statements and demands, not to mention thoughts of losing half of what I worked for in this divorce (I'm in a no-fault state) seems unbearable at times. Your posts have often helped me get through these past few days…wish I had come here sooner. I really do appreciate the time and effort you've all made to provide comments and support. Thank you.

Just read this again this morning:

Well, Pablo, I just found out that if I clicked on the bar to the right, the OM's picture could be seen. (I couldn't figure out how other people had seen him, but was too stupid to get it right until just a few minutes ago.) Chester the Molester, in the (very substantial) flesh!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /><img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

t&l

Neak, How timely. Just what I needed.

t&l, Yeah, when folks see his picture, especially those who know what I look like, I get some of the oddest expressions and a comment like, "aren't you supposed to trade up?"

"I couldn't figure out how other people had seen him, but was too stupid to get it right until just a few minutes ago.)"

And I was so stupid, I had to wait until T&L posted the above!

That's OK, Believer, I did it entirely by accident. However, now that you've seen it, let's get a little stereo harmonics going here...Ee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-ew!" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

t&l

"Ee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-ew!"

I just want to say once again, that I commend Pablo for doing the right thing, as opposed to the easy thing.

keepitreal: you mean to tell me there was an easy thing?

believer/t&l: you're cracking me up.

You did FINE today. I was reading back thru the pervert's garbage, and couldn't think of one thing your wife might have said where THAT would have been the appropriate answer.

I'm glad Believer and I amused you, even briefly. The necessity of humor is one of my great life lessons--sometimes you just gotta laugh! If you don't, the troubles and weight of life will just grind you right into the ground. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> And Believer, that was lovely harmonizing. Do you think we should make a recording?

t&l

Yes! We are GOOD together!

Pablo can't lose with us in his corner.

"Ee-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-e-ew Blight Up My Life"

"She Loves Ee-e-e-e-e-e-ew, Blah, Blah, Blah"

First two tracks of our upcoming production. What are some other songs we could include? Ceaseless vigilance is the price of having the Dervish at my house, so I can't take more time to think to titles...but I'm sure there are more.

t&l

Nothing Compares 2 Eeeeeeeeew

Tell Me What Eeeeeeeeew See

I'll Stand By Eeeeeeeeew

Eeeeeeeeew Don't Bring Me Flowers

is there an adult in the house???? ROFL!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />