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We've been married less than a year and I'm ready to kick him out! He just doesn't get the financial burden that we're under - AND HE JUST QUIT HIS JOB!!! Our total monthly bills are over $2500/mo and he contributes $600/mo. when he's working (which so far has been 8 months - and only part time). And when I ask him for the money on payday, he acts like I'm requesting his kidney! Is it too much to ask that he take responsibility? The $600 is fine with me since I have a daughter and make more money than he does, but he acts like it's no big deal that he's now unemployed - which is what REALLY bugs me. He has another job lined up that MIGHT start in 2 weeks - what are we supposed to live off of until then? AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! Any advice???? PLEASE!
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ztm, why did you marry a guy who only works part-time? Did he lead you to believe while you were dating that he really made more money?
Since you let him get by paying less than half of the expenses, maybe he thinks that you're loaded with money so his being out of work is not big deal.
My advice is that you tell him that you need him to get a full-time job pronto and to keep it.
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Thanks for answering my post. Before we got married, he was working full-time, but then his company started cutting back his hours, then he quit because "his boss was being an [censored]" (well, welcome to the flippin' club!) He works in construction so I expect some slow periods, especially in the winter. It's really not the money that's bothering me as much as his attitude about the whole thing. He doesn't have to worry about the house payment, groceries, etc. because he knows it will all get paid. I've already told him that he has to get a job by next Monday or we're going to have to seriously discuss where he will be living. I just don't know what to do...my daughter will be heart-broken if he leaves. (At this point, I'm too pissed off to care!)
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ZTM why did you marry him ??? be HONEST.. you cant marry a boy and expect to get a man, right away..men GROW into husbandhood..give him a chance did you do any reserach on YOUR needs.. ref money.. is money a deal breaker for you ???do you even know what a "deal breaker" IS
men are now getting mixed signals from society.. that is its OK to let your wife support you.. guys over 40 KNOW this is still [censored]..but younger guys are buying it.. anyway.. have a serious "sit down" with him about what you need.... re.. $$$$.. and kicking him out is a bit extreme.. are YOU a drama queen remember "for richer for poorer" ???? regards Jerseyboy
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I married him because I love him. I'm 41 years old and he is 42, and I am well aware of what a "deal breaker" is. He knew that when we got married he had to keep his job and help with the bills. We have had several discussions about this issue and I get the same answer every time - "It will all work out. I'm looking for work."
I am not a drama queen. I've simply been down this road before....I supported my first husband, including paying his child support. My current husband is well aware that I have no intention of supporting him. I see no reason why my daughter should do without because DH is too caught up in his own world to see the real one.
I do admit that I may have married him too quickly and during a very difficult period in my life (my mom was diagnosed with cancer 6 months before we were married and I spent most of that time tending to her). I honestly believe that if I had been thinking more clearly, I might not have gone through with the marriage and maybe I'm just looking for a reason.....AHA - the truth comes out! But I just don't want this marriage to end in failure...it doesn't just affect me this time. Deeper issue than money, huh?
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It's interesting to read your troubles since I have some of that as well. My wife quit her job because she was unhappy there and wanted to go pursue training in something else. I wanted to be the supportive husband, looked at the numbers and said, "Ok, we can do it."
This happened with the understanding that she would pursue her dream to be a physical fitness trainer and help people and eventually get another job in that arena. Personally I didn't see it as a lucrative career choice, but I wanted to support her dream so I went with it. Well, she went with it and studied and slowly got various certifications. However, it never "took off" in the manner that I assumed it should. She was happy that the bills were paid and she worked a few hours each day and I slowly built up resentment.
The real kick for me was during an argument over money one day and I brought up her slow path to her dream and bringing in money. When I voiced, "What if I choose to retire after the military (USAF) and just go back to school. What do we do then?!" She looked at me like I just said something in latin and grew an alien tail. She basically said that I can't quit working and no one else would consider doing that. Obviously right after she said it, she "heard" her own words and back pedeled with the usual "Well, I'll get a job if I have to" and such, but I could tell that in her mind, I was there to pay the bills and she never considered the fact that it isn't "my job" as the man, but "our job" as the couple.
There is still issues in our home since she is still pursueing her dream, but has realized it's not going to pay our bills. She still hasn't gotten as far as I would like, but we will address it slowly. She is looking for a desk job and still has 101 reasons why she hasn't found it, but in her mind she is "looking hard". In my mind she isn't, but I have to also be open to the possibility that my own fears (grew up poor...) are downplaying her efforts while at the same time, since the bills are being paid, she doesn't have incentive to really work on a new job. Her excuses of "I don't want to have to drive far" or "I can't work doing this or that" or whatever would not matter if she was single and starving, but as I said, bills are paid so the same incentive isn't there yet. I'm being patient and supportive and setting deadlines where I'll turn up the fire, but for now, our peace is worth the lack of income.
One way to get him to see where the money is going and where it needs to start coming in is to include him more in the money. That helped us since my wife started to see why I was stressing. Start including him in the money plans. Don't put as a "You need to start seeing this!", but as a "We have bills to pay and I would like your help in sorting this out." so it's less confrontational. Set it up as a certain night each week (or two weeks or whatever...) and bring all the bills in one pile and a stack of money (not literally, just a pad of paper with the numbers... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) and say, "Well, here is what we have. So, how should we take care of it?" Don't forget to put in there money for future plans, emergencies, etc... as well since they are as much your "bills" as the gas, electric, and cable are. After all if the car explodes or children need braces, you need to have plans for that as well.
When it becomes a simple "We have X amount coming in and X amount going out" then it is less about you telling him "You can't have X because we can't afford it!". Being told "You cannot do that!" may be part of the issue. Since he is seeing your statement as more of an attack on him and his desires than simply as a cut and dried numbers game and choices as "Is that a good choice based on our limited funds and what are we willing to give up to have that?" When my wife started to see that we had a limited budget of X amount she started to see that anything unwise literally took money out of the choices for food and gas and such.
An important thing is not to try for the end result yet either. For example, when I looked at the bills, I said, "I want to have X amount in savings because we need it!" What I eventually said was, "I want to put away X amount in savings each paycheck so that by X months we will have X amount total."
Oh! Another thing I did that helped immensely was by having two bank accounts. Now, she is on both and has access to both so she doesn't feel like it's a statement of distrust or something. One is our "Bills" account and one is our "everything else" account. I have all our bills automatically paid out of the bills account so we never see them. I then have as much of my pay go to that account so it's X amount in and X amount out without my ever seeing or touching it.
We then have the remainder of our money go to our "everything else" account. That is where we pay for variable bills like gas and food and entertainment. That way if we are broke on Week 3 of the month, our electricity and gas and cable are still getting paid. We simply know that the gas tank better last another couple days and we get that "nicety" next pay day...
It's tough to say, "We are broke!" when you have an entire paycheck in the bank. While you see it as "money toward bills", he see's it as just plain money in the bank therefore what's the problem. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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It's interesting to read your troubles since I have some of that as well. My wife quit her job because she was unhappy there and wanted to go pursue training in something else. I wanted to be the supportive husband, looked at the numbers and said, "Ok, we can do it."
This happened with the understanding that she would pursue her dream to be a physical fitness trainer and help people and eventually get another job in that arena. Personally I didn't see it as a lucrative career choice, but I wanted to support her dream so I went with it. Well, she went with it and studied and slowly got various certifications. However, it never "took off" in the manner that I assumed it should. She was happy that the bills were paid and she worked a few hours each day and I slowly built up resentment.
The real kick for me was during an argument over money one day and I brought up her slow path to her dream and bringing in money. When I voiced, "What if I choose to retire after the military (USAF) and just go back to school. What do we do then?!" She looked at me like I just said something in latin and grew an alien tail. She basically said that I can't quit working and no one else would consider doing that. Obviously right after she said it, she "heard" her own words and back pedeled with the usual "Well, I'll get a job if I have to" and such, but I could tell that in her mind, I was there to pay the bills and she never considered the fact that it isn't "my job" as the man, but "our job" as the couple.
There is still issues in our home since she is still pursueing her dream, but has realized it's not going to pay our bills. She still hasn't gotten as far as I would like, but we will address it slowly. She is looking for a desk job and still has 101 reasons why she hasn't found it, but in her mind she is "looking hard". In my mind she isn't, but I have to also be open to the possibility that my own fears (grew up poor...) are downplaying her efforts while at the same time, since the bills are being paid, she doesn't have incentive to really work on a new job. Her excuses of "I don't want to have to drive far" or "I can't work doing this or that" or whatever would not matter if she was single and starving, but as I said, bills are paid so the same incentive isn't there yet. I'm being patient and supportive and setting deadlines where I'll turn up the fire, but for now, our peace is worth the lack of income.
One way to get him to see where the money is going and where it needs to start coming in is to include him more in the money. That helped us since my wife started to see why I was stressing. Start including him in the money plans. Don't put as a "You need to start seeing this!", but as a "We have bills to pay and I would like your help in sorting this out." so it's less confrontational. Set it up as a certain night each week (or two weeks or whatever...) and bring all the bills in one pile and a stack of money (not literally, just a pad of paper with the numbers... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> ) and say, "Well, here is what we have. So, how should we take care of it?" Don't forget to put in there money for future plans, emergencies, etc... as well since they are as much your "bills" as the gas, electric, and cable are. After all if the car explodes or children need braces, you need to have plans for that as well.
When it becomes a simple "We have X amount coming in and X amount going out" then it is less about you telling him "You can't have X because we can't afford it!". Being told "You cannot do that!" may be part of the issue. Since he is seeing your statement as more of an attack on him and his desires than simply as a cut and dried numbers game and choices as "Is that a good choice based on our limited funds and what are we willing to give up to have that?" When my wife started to see that we had a limited budget of X amount she started to see that anything unwise literally took money out of the choices for food and gas and such.
An important thing is not to try for the end result yet either. For example, when I looked at the bills, I said, "I want to have X amount in savings because we need it!" What I eventually said was, "I want to put away X amount in savings each paycheck so that by X months we will have X amount total."
Oh! Another thing I did that helped immensely was by having two bank accounts. Now, she is on both and has access to both so she doesn't feel like it's a statement of distrust or something so that is important. One is our "Bills" account and one is our "everything else" account. I have all our bills automatically paid out of the bills account so we never see them. I then have as much of my pay go to that account so it's X amount in and X amount out without my ever seeing or touching it.
We then have the remainder of our money go to our "everything else" account. That is where we pay for variable bills like gas and food and entertainment. That way if we are broke on Week 3 of the month, our electricity and gas and cable are still getting paid. We simply know that the gas tank better last another couple days and we get that "nicety" next pay day...
It's tough to say, "We are broke!" when you have an entire paycheck in the bank. While you see it as "money toward bills", he see's it as just plain money in the bank therefore what's the problem. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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