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I just found out about a week ago that my wife was having an intimate affair with a co-worker for approximately one month. She has moved with her sister because she fears I may snap and harm her. She says the marriage was over sometime ago and the affair gave her an "escape". She said she knew if she got caught that she was willing to move on and divorce. I want to reconcile and was able to convince her to see a Counselor together this Thursday. She states that she is only going because I requested it and has no desire to attend. She stated that during the marriage she felt like I wasn't a friend and she couldn't talk to me. I also would get angry when she wanted to do activities with her friends, which caused resentment. I told her to at least go in their with an open-mind and listen to the counselor. She is adamant that she wants nothing to do with reconciliation and wants to be free. What should I do at this point besides scheduling the visit with the counselor? I can't seem to convince her that we have a communication problem that can be worked on through counseling. She says she has no desire to try anymore. I don't know what to do. We have been married almost 6 years and have no kids between the two of us. She has a teenage daughter from her earlier years and I have 7 year old from a previous relationship. I know she was stressed when her daughter moved in with us a year ago. She had some issues with school, lying, diet and hygiene which caused arguments between us coupled with our own communication issues. She has already sent her daughter back with her Grandparents. I beleive she just doesn't want responsibilties anymore and wants to live a free stressless life.

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I'll be honest. It's not as good for men with a cheating wife as it is for women with a cheating husband.

The problem is that typically, when women have affairs, they are often exit affairs. They are often already emotionally gone, and just need to find another man to meet more needs before leaving their husband.

It's hard to gauge where she is because there is the typical fog of an affair. All of your faults come to the surface when she is in the fantasy land of her affair. She doesn't change diapers or clean toilets or balance check books with the affair partner. It's just emotional and physical fun, without many responsibilities that go hand in hand with marriage.

So of course the reality of your marriage doesn't measure up to that. Combine that with the fact that she likely cannot or will not hear you or believe you and your every fault gets magnified while she rides the wave of feel good hormones that go along with the affair.

I ended up divorced from my WW and it took about 4 years for her romance with her soul mate to wind down. She is already on to another man. Perhaps he cheated on her like he did with his former wife, or perhaps she cheated on him like she did with me. It doesn't really matter.

What matters is what you do. This is where your actions speak louder than words and are the only things that have any possible chance of working. Again, no guarantees. Dig into the Dr's books, such as Surviving and Affair and His Needs, Her Needs and eliminate any love busters you perform and do the level she will allow, seek to identify and meet her emotional needs for a period of 3-6 months.

After this time in what is called plan A, you being the best husband you can be, if she still has not ended the affair, then you send her a plan B letter, telling her that you love her, but cannot preserve that love with her affair and lover in the picture, so to preserve what remaining love you have for her, the only thing you can do is to cut all contact with her, set up a third party to communicate through, explain that if she wants the marriage that she has to end the affair and begin MB.

Don't tell her what you are going to do, just do it. Perhaps, she will notice this, and the affair will die a natural death and you will not be the monster she currently perceives you to be. At the same time, you do eliminate behaviors that are not proper in a loving marriage.

If she wants to come back, then she too needs to enter the MB process, eliminating LB's and meeting your emotional needs, offering the four protections the Dr talks about to safeguard love.

When and if she comes back, it will begin with her justifications, she wouldn't have had to do this if you hadn't or had (fill in the blank.)

Just politely listen and file that way, saying she may be right. That doesn't admit or reject anything, it's just a polite way to diffuse the situation.

And stay on target, if she wants to come back, there has to be no contact with the former love, that's a protection she must provide without strings. If she is not willing to do this, then she is really not back, and frankly should not be trusted yet.

If she doesn't come back, then eventually your love for her, not being fed by her meeting your emotional needs or totally destroyed by her selfish behaviors of an affair, make it easier to accept divorce if you or she chooses it.

I will not sugar coat it. I believe more times than not, when it's the woman that is unfaithful, the odds are NOT good for reconciliation.

However, that doesn't mean you should not try. You made a vow, and I believe you should make every effort to keep that vow, regardless of her actions. Second, none of us are perfect and need to improve how we approach marriage. What MB will do is to get you to examine how you participate in marriage. This will either make a great husband for your current wife, or a great husband for your next wife should the marriage end.

While divorce is painful, something I would not wish on my own worst enemy. I can say that after almost 5 years since my WW left, told me the same things you have written here, that I'm a far better man, now with a much better wife than I was when she left.

It's hard to see this from your side of the tunnel, but there is daylight on the other side, even if you end up divorced.

Really, it's true.

But do the work and be a Marriage Builder. Your current wife, or your future wife and you will be grateful.

So there is hope. It just may not be in reconciliation.



Originally Posted by Dazed&Confused34
I just found out about a week ago that my wife was having an intimate affair with a co-worker for approximately one month. She has moved with her sister because she fears I may snap and harm her. She says the marriage was over sometime ago and the affair gave her an "escape". She said she knew if she got caught that she was willing to move on and divorce. I want to reconcile and was able to convince her to see a Counselor together this Thursday. She states that she is only going because I requested it and has no desire to attend. She stated that during the marriage she felt like I wasn't a friend and she couldn't talk to me. I also would get angry when she wanted to do activities with her friends, which caused resentment. I told her to at least go in their with an open-mind and listen to the counselor. She is adamant that she wants nothing to do with reconciliation and wants to be free. What should I do at this point besides scheduling the visit with the counselor? I can't seem to convince her that we have a communication problem that can be worked on through counseling. She says she has no desire to try anymore. I don't know what to do. We have been married almost 6 years and have no kids between the two of us. She has a teenage daughter from her earlier years and I have 7 year old from a previous relationship. I know she was stressed when her daughter moved in with us a year ago. She had some issues with school, lying, diet and hygiene which caused arguments between us coupled with our own communication issues. She has already sent her daughter back with her Grandparents. I beleive she just doesn't want responsibilties anymore and wants to live a free stressless life.

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How much have you read on this site? Read all you can about female infidelity and make sure you also read about the Basic Concepts like Emotional Needs, Love Busters and the Love Bank.

Counseling is usually pointless while the WS is still in contact with the AP. So is there still any contact between the two of them? Although affairs always die a natural death, there are things you can (and must) do to hasten its demise, such as contacting the OP's spouse, their workplace manager, etc.

Read about Plan A and start to implement if you really want to save your marriage. There are a lot of great veterans here who can help you every step of the way. It may be a little slow right now because this forum has been down for about a week getting "upgraded."


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Dazed,

Your WW is reading from the wayward script almost verbatim. Read this website thoroughly and start to develop your plan A strategy. If her affair was with a coworker, then you need to expose it to her employers.

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I have thought about exposing the affair. We are all in Law Enforcement (our own worst enemies). She and the OP work for corrections and me a Officer with an agency in another county. They work together two nights a week and asking the shift commander to switch their post is probably not going to happen. I called him soon as I found out who he was and let him have a few words. I don't know if it had any effect and I made some serious threats. He did approach her unhappily and asked if he should be concerned. She claims they only talk about business matters while they are on post. I have no way to verify this. I didn't want to contact her superiors for fear of upsetting her. Furthermore she lied and called in sick to spend the day with him once and I have proof. SpectorDR saved the day for me in finding the smoking gun. He claims it was just a "fling" and everyone does it. He said he was embarrassed by the incident but I think it's business as usual for him. Apparently he has been separated or getting divorced from his wife also, approximately 6 months ago.

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It may not be a big deal for OM, but if his wife found out... (Just because he says he's separated or divorced/divorcing, doesn't mean his wife knows this.)

Even if he is divorcing, news of such behavior cannot be good for his divorce case and if exposed, could discredit the department. So if you have proof, I think I'd offer it to his wife first and see where that goes.

Maybe he wouldn't be so nonchalant if news of his affair was well known?

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I just can't figure her out. I never realized how complex a woman and her emotions could be. We talked about the divorce and she states that she wants to keep my last name because she "likes" it. She is also willing to keep my daughter (which is not hers) on her insurance. She would have to classify me as her domestic partner. For the first time in a few days, she actually cried stating that she really missed me but still doesn't want to be married. She was slightly concerned that I may not want to be her friend afterwards. Maybe marriage just isn't her cup of tea.

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Dazed,

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I didn't want to contact her superiors for fear of upsetting her.

This is your decision, but you will have to accept that your marriage isn't going to recover as long as your WW keeps on seeing the OM. NC for life is not an option. So you can prolong this if you wish, but you are passing up on a valuable tool that can help bring the affair to an end by not exposing to her superiors.

I should think that in law enforcement, they would not want them working together under the circumstances.

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