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ezb,
Is that the best you can do: simply engage in some type of circular discusion that leads to nowhere????
You are more transparent than your realize. How sad!!
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Again societies definition of a word does not mean I have to accept it EZB, The English Dictionary's definition of words is the map by which people who speak the language "communicate". If we all had special meanings (deviations) from those defintions, the world would be in chaos. You can call what you and your wife do in your marriage Life Style or even a Kangaroo. But I would bet the majority of people you communicate with will use the Dictionary's defintion. Jo Jo I'll ask you the same question I asked Mel and she won't answer. Is killing during war murder to you or not? Thats silly and weak, ez. It doesn't matter what anyone calls killing, that won't change the fact that you are committing adultery. This is just a childish distraction from the issue.
"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Again societies definition of a word does not mean I have to accept it EZB, The English Dictionary's definition of words is the map by which people who speak the language "communicate". If we all had special meanings (deviations) from those defintions, the world would be in chaos. You can call what you and your wife do in your marriage Life Style or even a Kangaroo. But I would bet the majority of people you communicate with will use the Dictionary's defintion. Jo Jo I'll ask you the same question I asked Mel and she won't answer. Is killing during war murder to you or not? Thats silly and weak, ez. It doesn't matter what anyone calls killing, that won't change the fact that you are committing adultery. This is just a childish distraction from the issue. Mel Actually no it's a question to you asking if you alter definitions and societies views but yet comdemn others for doing so based on what you feel is fit or need be.
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I'll ask you the same question I asked Mel and she won't answer. Is killing during war murder to you or not? Is this your way to deflect from the subject at hand? Won't work here. Sorry EZB.  Do some more reading here. Read the artcles and the posts on this forum, GQII specifically. I think a higher power brought you to the "Infidelity" forum, even though you didn't intend to post here. Think about that. Jo
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Actually no it's a question to you asking if you alter definitions and societies views but yet comdemn others for doing so based on what you feel is fit or need be. Truly, it was not good spin and doesn't reflect well on your intelligence. You are just wasting folks time with nonsense, ez. Adultery is adultery: a·dul·ter·y Audio Help /əˈdʌltəri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-duhl-tuh-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -ter·ies. voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse.
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Again societies definition of a word does not mean I have to accept it EZB, The English Dictionary's definition of words is the map by which people who speak the language "communicate". If we all had special meanings (deviations) from those defintions, the world would be in chaos. You can call what you and your wife do in your marriage Life Style or even a Kangaroo. But I would bet the majority of people you communicate with will use the Dictionary's defintion. Jo Jo I'll ask you the same question I asked Mel and she won't answer. Is killing during war murder to you or not? Is this your way to deflect from the subject at hand? Won't work here. Sorry EZB. Do some more reading here. Read the artcles and posts on this forum (GQII) specifically. I think a higher power brought you to the "Infidelity" forums, even though you didn't intend to post here. Think about it. Jo So who thinks they are above who? I answered questions to the best of my ability but my questions to others should just be ignored as jibberish and trying to deflect? hmmmmmmmmmm sounds hipocritical to me and yes Shine this conversation does me no good in trying to learn how to show attention and effection to my wife and fill her bank.
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Precisely right!!!!
Jerry
Sorry ezb, you just don't get it!
My most fervent hope is that someday you will, but i don't have alot of hope with regards to that.
All Blesings,
Jerry
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Actually no it's a question to you asking if you alter definitions and societies views but yet comdemn others for doing so based on what you feel is fit or need be. Truly, it was not good spin and doesn't reflect well on your intelligence. You are just wasting folks time with nonsense, ez. Adultery is adultery: a·dul·ter·y Audio Help /əˈdʌltəri/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-duhl-tuh-ree] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun, plural -ter·ies. voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than his or her lawful spouse. Now you insult my intelligence Mel when you know nothing of me???? Wow how did you get on such a high horse a 30 foot ladder? And you have the nerve to bring God's name into it??? I see your still avoiding my question too so you don't give proof to being hypocritical.
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So who thinks they are above who? I answered questions to the best of my ability but my questions to others should just be ignored as jibberish and trying to deflect? hmmmmmmmmmm sounds hipocritical to me and yes Shine this conversation does me no good in trying to learn how to show attention and effection to my wife and fill her bank. EZB, I do not think myself better or above anyone else. My posts to you have only been an attempt to help. And done with the utmost respect. I will no longer post to you. And wish you God's speed in the very serious challenges you have to overcome. God Bless, Jo
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Thought it was time I joined as the WW of ezb so things could be answered from both sides of this marriage.
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OK, final atempt:
ezb, have you ever read the fruitless attempts of Don Quiote in fighting the windmill????
He was a fearless warrior, but his battle was not with the winmill, but much rather within himself.
You fight with yourself and your self proclaimed lifestyle, but the batle will continue as long as you cling to a lifestyle that god has never intended you to be in.
Deny what you will, but understand that to all of us here you simply represent the ghost of Don Quiote!!!!s
Battle that windmill as long as you want, but you will never win.
So Sad,
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Thanks Shine but I'm more interested in giving my WW what she wants and needs then battles with windmills.
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Once again ezb,
You missed my point.
Yur battle is within yourself. What are you going to do to become the husbund that God originally intended you to be ????
The answer has to come fom within you!!!!
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I understood your point Shine and yes being as how I have to make changes to return to the person I was I do have battles within myself to do that and I've been doing that. I never wanted nor do I want to be the H that God intended me to be I want to be the H that I was to my WW and what she viewed our marriage being and to having a loving interdependent marriage.
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Ok everyone, the purpose of this forum is to support and build marriages, not adultery. Thank you for your cooperation.
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