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#2059378 05/17/08 10:42 AM
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I am speaking BOLDLY with LOVE here.

From my understanding, it would not be surprising for this post of mine to be removed. I now have come to believe that this is certainly possible on this once beloved forum of mine.

However, I DO most sincerely fully support the Marriage Builders' principles but I no longer can support those who proclaim themselves as being veterans here.

I am speaking MY TRUTH as learned from LOVING ANYWAY, a woman who truly out of the kindness of her heart as far as I am concerned helped me here and changed my life for the good. I will appreciate what she has done for me for the rest of my life.

As far as I know she has ALWAYS been HONEST with ME.

I know for sure about statements that were made about ME in a SECRET FORUM, inclusion of me in some STRATEGY to DEMEAN another person/persons on THAT FORUM, and an outright LIE about me on that forum.

Some folks here would REALLY be surprised if they knew who I really am and what my training and education is, what my level of EXPERTISE really is...to me, it has not mattered..HERE, I've been just another one of you, coming here to help and to be helped out of the kindness of my heart.


I LOATHE MEANNESS.

I LOATHE DECEITFULNESS.

I LOATHE DISHONESTY.

Especially by those who proclaim that they are NOT all of the above.

To me, to proclaim that you are caring, honest, open and loving and then UNDERCOVER doing the OPPOSITE is engaging in EVIL PRACTICES.

I do not like to be in the PRESENCE OF EVIL.

I'm not sure what to do.

I want to FIGHT EVIL.

I want to be HERE for folks that need help and I want to get help here myself.

I'm not sure what to do.

But because the people in the SECRET SOCIETY are in HIGH PLACES here and are considered VETERANS, this post likely will be deleted and I likely will be banished from the forum...

So I have loved many of you and still do..



I made it happen..a joyful life..filled with peace, contentment, happiness and fabulocity.
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I'm so thankful to have gained my personal power...and strength

Imagine feeling BETRAYED by fellow forum members...

HOW AWFUL!!


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Mimi, before you race off, I wanted to let you know that your help has been instrumental in getting me off mine [censored] and learning how to go on. I probably feel about you how you feel about LovingAnyway. I have no idea what's going on, but I wish you the best.



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Continue to SPEAK YOUR TRUTH, SL...

You can email me...

I've told others how you are still in the "CIRCLE OF TRUST" smile

I'm at the point of not knowing what to do...


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Mimi,

I would ask you to reconsider and FIGHT FOR GOOD TO WIN OVER EVIL.

I can feel how horribly hurt you have been. But I have to believe that there are people on here who are truly good and G-d will help us to help them.

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I'm at the point of not knowing what to do...
I'm a fighter for G-d, please fight back and turn what has changed into good and keep moving foward to help those who are coming.

Their devastation is real, their help in real and they need good people to fight for what is TRUTH, FAITH and TRUST.

We might have thought we were at war for just our M, but maybe we are really involved in something way bigger of this spiritual warfare and G-d is using this hurtful time for you to stand up for what is right and fight back.

Mimi, you have reminded me time and time again, we can't control what others do or think, we can only walk in G-ds will for us and let him carry his message to othes through us. WE CAN STAND FOR THIS AND FIGHT EVIL TOGETHER....

As you can see I DON'T want you to LEAVE.....

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We might have thought we were at war for just our M, but maybe we are really involved in something way bigger of this spiritual warfare and G-d is using this hurtful time for you to stand up for what is right and fight back.

(((((Queenie)))))


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You didn't think I would let you leave so easily did you.

I am fighting the WAR and need YOUR HELP and MANY OTHERS....

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And I am praying right along with you for clarity of G-ds will for you.

Can it be that saying one persons' version of what may seem like hateful and hurtful things is really the truth and just a little stronger. Kind of like that brick that G-d threw at me and there was no need for me to move any direction because it was coming regardless?

Last night at my AA meeting the topic was the 3rd step, turn our life and our will over to the care of G-d. One person spoke about how he comes to understand if he is walking in G-d's will or not. Check your motives was one way. Saying TRUTHS can be done in a loving, yet firm way, a way that we can pray and ask G-d on how to do it.

We are people, even us who have been betrayed hurt people sometimes on purpose, sometimes not, but we can use this forum to as possible an example to others of how to work through everyday life issues in a healthy manner.

If you are hurt and someone did it on purpose or by accident, maybe and this really a stretch, maybe it's G-ds purpose for us to learn how to work through this instead of leaving. Does that make sense.

Will it fix the sitch, I have no clue, but what it will do is take a stand for G-d.


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The LORD is reminding me to only have UNQUESTIONABLE and UNWAVERING FAITH and TRUST in HIM...not MAN..not any people...

You'd think that by age 53 I would have learned not to be naive...


I made it happen..a joyful life..filled with peace, contentment, happiness and fabulocity.
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The LORD is reminding me to only have UNQUESTIONABLE FAITH and TRUST in HIM...not MAN..not any people...

You'd think that by age 53 I would have learned not to be naive...
Then we wouldn't be his servants.

It's through these tough times and lessons when we depend on him the most that we get to glorify him the most by reminding us HE IS THE ONE... And there is NONE ELSE.

Yes, people can be trustworthy, but we are just people who make mistakes or do bad things.

But G-d is using you on here to help MANY OTHERS who need you.

I am certainly not G-d. And I obvious can't give you the answer, but I can pray and ask G-d's will be clear for you and I can hope it includes you staying here and fighting through this and setting the bar just higher for us all.




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Well, I'm out of the loop, which I suppose is a good thing. People forming cliques on an open forum? Whatev. Are we in high school? Weird.


If I ever am privvy to whatever is going on, I'm sure I will be disappointed, but it's not often that I FULLY trust anybody anymore anyway... smirk

Nope, this just bolsters my growing opinion that people generally suck.


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Well I gotta say I remain clueless as to what it is you are talking about confused.

I don't know what this OTHER FORUM is that you speak of, but It doesn't sound like O and H policy to me that someone(vet?) would speak about you thre. I surely hope something like that is not happening.

For what it's worth Mimi, I have always enjoyed your honesty and courage to speak the truth. Why would you leave? Why would you allow deceiptfull motives to drive you away from here?

I hope you reconsider. Perhaps these vets should be outed so we all know where we stand just a little bit better?

All Blessings,
Jerry

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And to be open and honest, I am being selfish. I NEED YOU....

I want to learn from you completely and have the life you have.

I'm not doing it just for everyone else or completely altruistic.

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I don't know what the other forum is either, but i know what I am fighting for, a life that G-d wants impacted by good people who he uses for those purposes.


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I was wondering that, too. If it's not this forum or my Anon forum, I'm still way outta the loop, which, again is probably a good thing.



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It's through these tough times and lessons when we depend on him the most that we get to glorify him the most by reminding us HE IS THE ONE... And there is NONE ELSE.

Thank you, Queenie...

YOU truly are a BLESSING to ME...

Your words have been touching MY HEART and bringing tears to my eyes all morning...


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People forming cliques on an open forum? Whatev. Are we in high school? Weird.

That's EXACTLY what has happened and it SEEMS to be supported by the administrators.

I think it is REALLY negatively affecting MARRIAGEBUILDING...

Let's see if this thread gets locked.

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If I ever am privvy to whatever is going on, I'm sure I will be disappointed,

With you being my SOULMATE, you will be...DISAPPOINTED does not come close to describing how I feel...

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it's not often that I FULLY trust anybody anymore anyway...

I would have thought that those who FIGHT BETRAYAL would work NOTto BETRAY others...BUT as you say, SL..

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this just bolsters my growing opinion that people generally suck.


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"Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter." MLK


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YOU truly are a BLESSING to ME...

Your words have been touching MY HEART and bringing tears to my eyes all morning...
Oh ma'a, you are MY blessing and we are in this together.

I love you.... I need you.... and I am here for you....

You have touched MY LIFE in a way that can never be TAKEN AWAY. NEVER and I am fighting for YOU...


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I've been just another one of you, coming here to help and to be helped out of the kindness of my heart.

When I gave my life to the lord, the theme that my pastor was preaching was “Open Doors.” The week after I gave my life to Christ ... this was the sermon at church....

“Words kill, words give life; they’re either poison or fruit – you choose.” Proverbs 18:21

“Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen. And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, with whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.” Ephesians 4:29-30

“A blessing becomes so only when it is spoken...” Dr. John Trent.

The pastor bottomed lined it this way... “Speak the TRUTH...Make your Yes mean Yes and your No mean No! “ When you speak the truth you set boundaries.


Mimi...

You are the epitome of that sermon... you’ve been a blessing to many people here just by speaking the truth... Think about how many thousands of lives you have touched and blessed.... directly and indirectly... from a betrayed spouse.... to his/her FWS... and their children... and grand children....

You have exponetially blessed thousands of people just by speaking the truth... What a miracle...



For the help and the blessings that I've gotten from you... either directly or indirectly... I thank you... You are a very special woman.

So... please don’t get discouraged... you just keep doing what you’ve been doing... Blessing people by speaking truth. God will bless you in a very special way...


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STBXWW, 41, Serial Cheater
D-Day #1 5-26-2006 (Our Wedding Aniversary)
D-Day #2 12-26-2007
D-Day #3 5-11-2008
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I am really TOUCHED now by ALL OF YOUR KIND WORDS...

I really appreciate it...

THANKS SO, SO MUCH AMAZIN...



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