Wake up people..this is right in our own backyard.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25106145

My thoughts when I began reading the article:

"What's the big deal? I don't see anything wrong with.......

Oh. They want to kill converts, too."

About 10 years ago, they tried to build this very school within a half-mile of my house. There was a lot of local opposition, so they ended up building it in McLean instead.

I remember I was opposed to it myself... but national figures like Norman Schwarzkopf came out in favor of the school and basically called local opponents "bigots". I'd read about what they teach in that school, though, and didn't want that near my family.

Krazy:

Those "converts" are those who leave the Muslim faith.

Pretty dangerous precedent to set. Having the "government" look over and "approve" the textbooks used in private schools.

Yes, THIS school is a Muslim school. But what if the "government" didn't approve of the teachings in a Catholic school? Or a Jewish School? or a Baptist school?

That's more scary to me than 12th graders learning about potential interpetations of the Koran in a school setting.

LG

The difference is that this MUSLIM school is teaching that murder is acceptable under specific circumstances. That is why it is being singled out.

Any group religious or otherwise that teaches hate and murder should face the consequences.

Want2Stay

I agree WHOLE HEARTEDLY!!!!

Home grown Wahabbism.

LG, are you sure That's(State concern for what is taught to impressionable skulls full of mush, especially when killing violates the Laws of the United States) more scary to me than 12th graders learning about potential interpetations of the Koran in a school setting. ?

Name ONE other religion in the world that actively teaches and promotes that killing is JUSTIFIED for any "offense" they think qualifies (such as an "insult" to Muhammed or the Quran).

You advocate for teaching 12th graders about the Koran while ANY mention of God or religion (except for the religion of Atheism) is BANNED from all PUBLIC schools?

I guess I'd agree with your argument if ALL religion's beliefs were part of the curriculum, but that's unlikely as the State is busily at work trying to take away even the rights of those who were NOT educated in a "public school."

For example: California is denying Home Schooled children (predominantly Christian) the right to their grades. California will support all sorts of "fruits and nuts," but heaven forbid (pardon the pun) that anyone who might be "tainted" by Christian oriented schooling be recognized.

Think LEFT, liberal left, where the mere concept of "right and wrong" is denied in favor of individual anarchy and the "right" to do whatever the individual feels is right...and no one can "object" or say they are wrong without being "tagged" with being a "bigot" or a "racist."

This IS America. There ARE National Security Issues, to say nothing of similar "bans" on free speech (such as NOT being allowed to yell "fire!" in a movie theater. If predominantly Christian "things" (i.e. Nativity scenes, The Ten Commandments[Jewish and Christian], etc. can be "banned" by the Government, so can Midrassas that indoctrinate children for murder being okay and "Islamic Law" rather than the "Constitutional Law" of the USA. This, I hate to say it, IS OUR COUNTRY.

This teaching is consistant with the "Radical Islamists" (who are really just being "faithful" the Quran) and form the basis of the ongoing threat to liberty and freedom for ANYONE who doesn't "think the way they want you to think."

You don't "negotiate" with terrorists and you don't "negotiate" with teaching children it's okay to murder regardless of your religion.

Consider, too, the old Arab proverb about the "camel's nose" being allowed in the Tent (in this case the USA).

Liberals deny the concept of right and wrong? You mean like sending 4,000 of our troops to their deaths in a useless war in order to make a truckload of money?

I'm not saying that liberals don't have their share of issues, but if you think conservatives are any more ethical and moral (Mark Foley, Larry Craig, Tom Delay, Rush "Junkie" Limbaugh, etc.), you are fooling yourself.

I don't know nothing about no Jew or Bap schools. In my state RC schools use same text books as public schools. Text books are paid for by local taxes from the local school districts.

Logic is parents that pay taxes for buses and text books but there children were not recieving them. So RC school students get them at no additional cost. Their public school taxes provide these things.

Not having first hand experience with Jew or Bap schools, I do have with RC school's. I can vouch for RC schools not teaching hate anf justifing murder. Never had heard of Jew or Bap schools doing anything like this either.


"Pretty dangerous precedent to set. Having the "government" look over"

Worse of a precedent to not have the government take steps to protect our way of life.

FH,


They are allowed in our country because they basically own our country. The last I checked, It was estimated that the Saudi government owned approximately 68% of our national debt. What do you think would happen if they called in that debt? They have a free pass because they could destroy us without firing a weapon.

Want2Stay

what a load of **** (edited by MEDC)

Krazy,


You are preaching to the choir, Krazy! Thank God this administrations time is almost up. It is a senseless war. It always was a senseless war with a hidden agenda to detract from the REAL issues and to make a profit for the oil companies and private contractors rebuilding the mess we made. Why is it that the person responsible for the deaths of 3,000 people on our on soil still walks around free? You think it could have anything to do with the fact that he is a member of the Saudi royal family?

First, it was to find WMD's. Then, it was because Sadam was a tyrant. Next, it was because they supported terrorists. BLAH BLAH BLAH! It was all a smokescreen to hide the fact that they weren't going to pursue Osama Bin Laden. You are no safer and in fact probably less safe from terrorism today than you were before the war. You are less safe because every innocent civilian that died in Iraq created a family of potential terrorists that now despises our country with good reason. We have become a mockery to the global community. War mongers. The founding father's of this great country must be rolling over in their graves for the path that this administration has taken this country in. This ridiculous war has now cost this country $527,000,000,000. Think about that for a second? Have we gained one single thing for spending that money? NOT ONE! Do you think that kind of money could be helpful to our now floundering economy?

And before anyone starts about me not supporting the troops you couldn't be further from the truth. I support the troops 100%. I donate money every single year to the Disable American Veterans Foundation. I commend the troops for staying true to their word, and serving this great country. It's the Commander and Chief that is dumber than a box of rocks that I object to......

<steps of soapbox > - sorry for the rant

Want2Stay

I can tell you that my YDD graduated on Tuesday night (June 11, 2008) and the Salutatorian was not allowed to give her speech as written because it had too many religious overtones in it.

Our principal told her she had to change it, she refused and did not give a speech at all. I think this is HORRIBLE, she worked hard to acheive the honor of graduating number 2 in her class and she felt she did it because of her faith in god and she was not even allowed to share that.

I for one told her that i was PROUD of her for not changing her speech and for standing up for what she believes in.

Krazi71 - Your focusing on this and attempting to "justify" the following statement is "scary."

Your whole "defense" or "objection" had nothing do with the issue of the Muslim textbooks openly advocating and teaching that it's "okay" to kill anyone who doesn't agree with them.

That ISN'T an issue of "Right vs. Left, Conservative vs. Liberal" other than the basic liberal tenet of "relative morality." It IS an issue of being an American and supporting the Constitution "against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

If you want to believe that the effort in Iraq isn't worth the sacrifice, you are welcome to that belief. But I would simply direct you to HISTORY and see what turning a "blind eye" to real dangers results in. England tried the same thing with Germany, and the USA tried to isolate itself from the "problems" in the other parts of the world. But sooner or later (as in Pearl Harbor Dec. 7, 1941 and Sept.11, 2001), that denial "comes home to roost" (to borrow a phrase from the Rev. Wright). And waiting until we are threatened with annihilation results in casualities of war that dwarf the cost in precious lives that have been lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Are PEOPLE (individuals) of all stripes susceptible to making wrong choices? Sure. That shouldn't be any great news to those of us on MB, especially to the BS's here. But the philosophy of liberal versus conservative is demonstrably different, and that IS a fact.

If you want to devolve the discussion into a "naming names" sort of "name calling" to support the failings of individuals, we can do that, but I don't know what good it would serve. (Chappaquidick Teddy, "Sheets" Byrd, "Blue Dress Bill," etc., for example) See what I mean? It IS a fact, that Barack Obama refused, and continues to refuse, to put ANY limitations on abortion, and voted against a ban of Partial Birth Abortions. THAT is the sort of philosophical and ethical difference that I am talking about. Killing. It deadens (pardon the pun) the morality of all and results in an attitude that might say, "let the Muslim schools teach killing because *I* don't believe in it but it's "okay" for them to believe it.

Just like those who say they don't personally believe in abortion but "respect" the right of someone else to kill a defenseless baby.


Argue the issue, unless you simply want to say "let them teach the right to murder, it's no skin off MY nose."

Another great one W2S!!

"First, it was to find WMD's"

I beg to differ. First, it was "we're going after the terrorists before they strike again" and "It's going to be a long war." I heard this as I sat in my dorm room in Saudi Arabia shortly after 911. Also after I heard Ted Kennedy ON 911 right after the first plane struck the first tower saying that President Bush "didn't care about education" because he was cutting his visit to Sarasota, FL schools short. I never heard that news clip again. I also never heard of another attack on American soil again...

BTW, I was at an airport in SC waiting for a connecting flight to (eventually) get to Saudi.

Interesting question W2S.

Possible answers:

1. They'd be killing the goose that has laid their golden egg.

2. We'd go to war with Saudi Arabia and this time we'd take the oil fields and NOT give them back like we've always given back territory to those defeated aggressors we've had to fight.


And now, thanks to the Supreme Court....war is inevitable with the Islamic world due to the extremists.

If EVER there was a reason to vote for McCain and NOT anyone who would appoint more liberal judges to the Supreme Court, that issue (the latest ridiculous Supreme Court decision) has become (for me anyway) THE "litmus test" of who should be the President.

Habeas Corpus for terrorists? Miranda rights for terrorists and any military personnel at war with the USA? Riiiggght... FORGET about any debate about water boarding or any interrogation techniques. NOW the terrorists get full disclosure AND the "right" to say nothing without a lawyer present. Guess who won't be talking anymore? Guess who will get released and be right back at it trying to kill more people who DO NOT AGREE with their "brand" of radical Islam?

Holy War? Jihad? This is going to make the Crusades seem like a garden party.

5 to 4. Thank you Supreme Idiots of the LEFT!

And WE are worried about infidelity? The Muslims have the answer and are just waiting to impose it on all of us....DEATH to any adulterer or adulteress.

IF Congress and the White House don't get together immediately and pass specific LAWS to bind the hands of these nincompoops, we will soon find that 3000 in New York and 3000 in Iraq will be TINY compared to what it will cost to finally awaken the silent "sleeping giant" of people who DO love freedom and who WILL act to "preserve, protect, and defend this Constitution from all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. This Supreme Court travesty is WORSE than the "Wall" that the liberals erected that stopped the FBI from acting on intelligence about 3 of the 911 hijackers in AUGUST of 2001.



Lawyers....I'm beginning to think the old joke about lawyers might actually be true for a lot of them.

Ever wonder why there is a growing disrespect for the legal system? The criminals and the terrorists get all THEIR "rights" and the victims get nothing but more blood and anguish. Too bad. Enough is enough. It is past time for TERM LIMITS on both the Congress and the Supreme Court. NO ONE expected Congressmen and Senators to make a career out of the office they hold when they made the Constitution. NO ONE expected Supreme Court Judges to LIVE long enough to be SENILE or attempt to "legislate from the bench."


Enough.

well said FH.