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I think it was her melodramatic way of saying that she felt broken emotionally. Perhaps she is feeling "dead' because OM is supposedly gone. Maybe it was a suicide threat? But, as we know, she has cried wolf a few other times about that.

I TRULY think it was to draw me into the groveling and begging her to return mode...but, that didn't happen. R MAY happen, but it will NOT be on her terms. She should do the begging this time!

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I TRULY think it was to draw me into the groveling and begging her to return mode...but, that didn't happen. R MAY happen, but it will NOT be on her terms. She should do the begging this time!

Yeah, I agree. After what she pulled just a few days ago, I wouldn't trust this AT ALL. I'd just sit back and wait and see what happens for now. She's hitting rock bottom now, especially if OM REALLY is gone. My heart goes out to her but at the same time I worry about her hurting you and the kids yet again.

I'm all about recovery of marriage but I'm not so sure in this case. BTW, I've been keeping up with your other blog too.


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Originally Posted by abandonedwith3
Around lunch today, I received a text from WW stating, "I want to come home." This time...I did respond with, "Really, why?"

I wasn't willing to talk to her any further if she talked only about the kids or being lonely. She responded back one more time, "OM is gone, call him if you don't believe me, today is the day that X and Y's father killed their mother. I am quitting my job, I am dead now."

I DID respond, one more time, "IF OM is gone, then and only then would I be willing to speak to you...call me when you're ready to REALLY talk."

Every time you respond to her little melodrama, you recharge that little melodrama battery of hers.

Have you given her a Plan B letter, clearly indicating what must be done in order to come back into the M?


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No problem, I have noticed some STRANGE locations still viewing it.

My heart DOES go out to her, I DO still worry about her. I'm glad her mom came down to go see her.

But, I'm very cautious about this situation...it can NEVER be as it was before!

BTW, isn't "Peanut" adorable!

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She IS adorable! I can see the mischief in her eyes. LOL
I have a 4-year old GD so I can relate to their antics.

Are you wife and her mother close?


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They're closer now than they've ever been. WW's mom also left her when she was 12...there was YEARS of resentment...sound familiar???

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Well maybe she'll have some influence over her. But, I tend to agree with MIM, perhaps you should seriously going to Plan B until she is ready to meet your conditions (outlined in your Plan B letter). I think she's too good at manipulating you at this point. As we say here on MB, watch her actions, NOT what she says.


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Well, in approx. 12 hours WW went from "What do I have to do?" to "I will pick up the kids at M's tomorrow at 5 and stick to our original agreement."

I fear her mom gave her a slightly less than Biblical perspective (she's NOT a Chrisitan!).

Remember that she had amended the original agreement to let them come home on Sun. afternoons instead of Mon. mornings. She is only going to make matters worse!!!

I'm really not sure what all happened today. I'm back, once again, to PlanB!

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Are you letting the kids go with her?

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I am letting the kids go, but ONLY because her mom and step-dad are staying with them all weekend.

Her mom called me this morning just to say that they intended to be there and that WW DID NOT even take her personal phone to work with her today in order to avoid talking to or even the temptation of talking to OM. Her mom said that she called OM last night and informed him that WW wished no further contact and that she EXPECTED him to respect her decision.

The first step of R would SEEM to have been accomplished. Now...it will soon be time for me to make the decision as to what I am willing to accept as the further terms. I am still remaining silent until she reaches out again to me!

Apparently, the story yesterday was that she texted me "I want to come home" and the rest while at work. I pushed her to hurry up and call and insisted that I thought she was discussing her decision with OM. She told her mom that, due to my "nasty texts" asking her to hurry and make her family a priority over her job and OM, she decided to NOT call. She says that she REALLY was literally holding the hand of a man who was dieing at the time and simply couldn't call. She insists she did want to come home, but that my texts changed her mind.

I realize that she is only attempting to place blame, even for the lack of R, on me and I know I did nothing wrong. I just didn't believe her, but why would I after the past 7 weeks?

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Originally Posted by abandonedwith3
I am letting the kids go, but ONLY because her mom and step-dad are staying with them all weekend.

Her mom called me this morning just to say that they intended to be there and that WW DID NOT even take her personal phone to work with her today in order to avoid talking to or even the temptation of talking to OM. Her mom said that she called OM last night and informed him that WW wished no further contact and that she EXPECTED him to respect her decision.

The first step of R would SEEM to have been accomplished. Now...it will soon be time for me to make the decision as to what I am willing to accept as the further terms. I am still remaining silent until she reaches out again to me!

Apparently, the story yesterday was that she texted me "I want to come home" and the rest while at work. I pushed her to hurry up and call and insisted that I thought she was discussing her decision with OM. She told her mom that, due to my "nasty texts" asking her to hurry and make her family a priority over her job and OM, she decided to NOT call. She says that she REALLY was literally holding the hand of a man who was dieing at the time and simply couldn't call. She insists she did want to come home, but that my texts changed her mind.

I realize that she is only attempting to place blame, even for the lack of R, on me and I know I did nothing wrong. I just didn't believe her, but why would I after the past 7 weeks?

Sounds like more babble. Using a dying man as an excuse and blaming you for her continuing her affair! When you start to cling to her 'confession' as a lifebouy just remember her 'episode' the other night!

I would not let her in the door unless she wlaks through it on her knees in as much humility as possible.

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I would not let her in the door unless she wlaks through it on her knees in as much humility as possible.

Not for AW - she needs to do this to God.


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There was a while after AW had just went into Plan B that I thought he would come out of this mess, and even defended his choices and complemented him on his judgment. However, "something" happened after Plan B was instituted that has caused the wheels to fall off, and I just don't see this ending well for anyone at this point.

AW, you have the ability to rid yourself of this serial cheating drama queen, but you are going to let yourself take her back without boundaries and find yourself in worse shape than you were in before.

I'm not sure what happened to that strength and sound judgment you were displaying, but its pretty much gone now. I really can't believe that you are contemplating R'ing with this woman after all she has done to you and your children.

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I NEVER said I would take her back now without boundaries.

It sounds as though you think I shouldn't take her back now under any circtumstances.

I still believe that God can change someone, but I will have to see evidence of that change before ANY r can possibly happen!

AND, NO, she doesn't have to get on her knees to me...just to God!

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"AW, you have the ability to rid yourself of this serial cheating drama queen, but you are going to let yourself take her back without boundaries and find yourself in worse shape than you were in before."

AW- I am sorry you are even thinking of taking her back. What is it? Do you need her income or something? Do you not make enough to adopt the baby or to support the family? Or is it you are afraid she will quit her job and not pay child support? Or is it you are just so used to being abused by a selfish/mentally unstable woman?

You seem awfully open to having her return. Too open.

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"The first step of R would SEEM to have been accomplished"

NO WAY!

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I still believe that God can change someone, but I will have to see evidence of that change before ANY r can possibly happen!

AND, NO, she doesn't have to get on her knees to me...just to God!

Good man! Good thinking.

These things are going to take a long time, tho, if they EVER happen.

In the meantime, what is your plan? I have a feeling that since things have not gone the way ww wants, she is again trying to take the easy road out, and expects you to welcome her home with open arms.

Are you still going to Plan B?

I hope so.

Protect the children legally, too.

Your ww needs therapy to fix herself. She must realize that it is truly unacceptable to emotionally extort her own children for her own gains. I don't think she's going to realize this without some inner reflection and changes.



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"Apparently, the story yesterday was that she texted me "I want to come home" and the rest while at work. I pushed her to hurry up and call and insisted that I thought she was discussing her decision with OM"

So, you are now trying to push her for no contact? If you push her and not have all your boundaries, the post nup agreement and all the other things you need to set up before even speaking much to her, than you are going to created a much worse mess. if she thinks she needs to do a simple A,B and C to get back home, like she did on the other two affairs she had, and you let her, then you are as mentally unstable as her and are enabling her.

I feel like you want her back no matter what. And the drama and selfishness will continue as before.

How much income does she contribute to your HH compared to your income? Are you the "MR MOM" here?

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Originally Posted by abandonedwith3
It sounds as though you think I shouldn't take her back now under any circtumstances.

I still believe that God can change someone, ...

It's your life, but when you come here seeking advice, you may get some that you don't like ... personally, based on what you've told us ... I don't think you should even consider taking her back under ANY circumstances.

But, then I see where you are seeking a "MIRACLE" ... sorry, but my experience just doesn't allow me to believe is such things. Your WW is displaying her true personality, and the facts don't support her changing her basic behaviors, but you are free to put your "faith" in "hope".

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