Okay, I am tired of this BS. Bottom line none of you know me or my family. There are a lot of tidbits that I feel should be brought out ( about his parents,father, him, me ) but I will not air dirty laundry of their lives to a bunch of strangers. Please continue to have no life, helping ppl whatever? If Mogrod1 continues to listen to this despite our talk this morning about how crazy it is, so be it. He is a big boy and can do what he wants right? He has been doing so for years. So, keep up your false opinions about us while your butts expand because you sit at a comp all day butting into ppls lives.
I'm Out!!

I'm sorry your emotional needs weren't being met by MogRod. But the good news is it's very fixable. He is very willing to work hard at meeting YOUR emotional needs. He admits he was neglecting them and wants a chance to do so.

If you would end your affair with the OM and commit to NO CONTACT for life, we can support you in Recoverying your marriage to be the type of marriage you have always wanted and dreamed of.

Wouldn't that be the best solution? To have the marriage of your dreams and be "IN LOVE" with the father of your beloved son again?

Jo

mogrod, you should put a call out to Charlotte aka Dancing Machine!! She sued her H for divorce in a TEXAS COURT on the grounds of adultery and the OW was subpeonaed into court and forced to testify about her affair. She was served AT WORK by a sheriff! It was a hoot! That judge was none too pleased about the adultery! :eek:

I hear in states like North Carolina and West Virginia it is even worse! :eek:

There is not a thing you can tell us that would justify adultery. There is not a thing you could tell us that would justify taking this boy away from his daddy and destroying his family so you can have a sleazy affair.

Tidbits about (his parents, father, him and you)are no excuse to cheat.

You can try to justify it as much as you want, his family and your family should have no influence on you having an affiar.

You make it sound like these people are horrible. I do not get the justifications that you try to make.

Guess someone hit a nerve and you does not like the truth.

What state ya in?

State of Denial!

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Mrs. Mogrod1

You said this:


Most of the people here on MB do care. We’ve seen and heard all of this before. Your husband came to MB seeking help and from my read, he’s been pretty up front about his part in all of this, without being specific. Here are some of the AWFUL things he’s been saying:


He also wrote this:


He also wrote this:


and this


But let me ask you something, from one mother to another. Do you HONESTLY in your heart of hearts believe that what you are doing is the BEST for your child? I mean even if you wanted to walk away from the marriage, do you really believe that you getting involved with a married man and exposing your child to that situation before there’s even a divorce is the BEST for your child?

I know your child is autistic and I really feel for you and how you must struggle because of that. That in and of itself creates even more responsibility on both of you as parents. Are you going to be able to look back in ten years and say that you did the BEST for your child? Honestly? Once your children are grown, there is no “taking it back”. They will pattern their life, their morals and their decision-making on what they learned from mom or dad.

Aren’t you tired of struggling? Why not at least give your marriage one more shot, now that your husband “sees” and recognizes his part? How much more damaging would that be as opposed to what's going on now?

Why not give your BEST effort for just a little while? Doesn’t your child at least deserve that? It’s really not too late.

Don’t worry about what you’ve posted or said (we don’t ), we’ve seen worse… LOL. Some of us really do care about helping others in their marriages because we’ve been there. I think you’d be surprised at the variety of people who come here, and I think there’s only a few computer nerds among us. Most of us have our own marriages, families, jobs, etc. but stick around because our eyes were opened once and we really want to help. I know I do.

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Is this trailer park night at the Jerry Springer show? :eek:

How sad for mogrod1.

mogrod1,

Sign up under a different name and be completely discreet about it. You deserve to have the support of this board. The fact that your WW and her OM would come here is despicable!

There's alot for you to learn here. It would be very sad to see their immature acts run you off from a place that can give you support.

Purchase Surviving An Affair and read Dr. Harley's concepts.

One day your WW will thank you for loving her enough to take a stand for your M.

Sad, sad, sad....

It's not worth popcorn. I'm changing the channel.

You sound proud of yourself. That's really sad and is very telling. Says alot about your character.

Why would you want to participate the in the destruction of someone else's family? If you really CARED about her, you'd walk away.

Nevermind. I know I'm talking to a wall. Nothing you can say will be a surprise.

SIGH! I don't even know what to say right now.

Wife, if you feel like you need to tell everyone my issues, feel free. I have no problem airing out my dirty laundry for everyone to get the full picture. I was far from the perfect husband and father, I will admit that. I've said and done a lot of things in our marriage I feel crappy about.

Neglect?
Yes

Lack of Affection?
Yes

Abuse?
In 9+ years together I've put my hands on her twice and hate myself for both instances. I had one instance with my son a few months ago that I guess can be viewed as abusive, it was was an unfortunate incident and I've apologized to him a million times over for it.

Cheating?
Well, if you're talking about my brief addiction to porn, then yes.

Has cheating ever crossed my mind?
Yes

What all do they need to know? I'm willing to be completely open.


I came here for support in saving my marriage. They are not here to hurt you or make you into a villain. They are here to help BOTH of us regain a marriage and work on it being a happy one forever. Do they look down on affairs? Sure.

You said that you thought I was stronger than this to get involved with a "cult" site like this. The woman I love has admitted an affair, has moved out and taken our son with her. My life has flipped upside down, I miss both you two so much and I'm heartbroken. I don't know how strong you think I can be. I pray to God all the time for strength and, even as hard I try to be stronger, I still find myself with my head in my hands once a day crying over everything that has happened.

I actually feel stronger BECAUSE of this site. I found a place that has hundreds of members who were my exact shoes and came out OK.

Again, I'll suggest to you, your Mom and your Mom's neighbor (who you say all of which think this site is a big joke) to actually read many of the articles and threads on here. Y'all all might get some real insight on some things.

I may have done some dumb things the last few months (lie, etc) but I did everything with only one goal - to save our marriage. I love you.

To the mods...

Can we turn this into a sticky when it's all done. It could be a valuable teaching tool to explain rewriting history, fog-babble and demonization of the betrayed...

I have never seen so many typical self justifications assembled together on one thread even when we've set about trying to do it on purpose.

Mogrods Other, you don't have to reply to me about how I don't know you or your husband or any of the players involved. I know that I don't know any of you. And it really doesn't matter because you have proven exactly the things people tell newly betrayed spouses when they come here by your own hand better than anything anyone could ever say.

And just so you know, even if your husband did cheat in the past, it still does not make your affair right. An affair is wrong. Nothing you can say, do or point to will ever change that.

If this is all about what was wrong with your marriage, then end your affair, spend a couple of years getting issues resolved (file, divorce, divide assets etc) so you and your husband can take care of your child and then move on with your life.

If OM has nothing to do with the way you feel, then go 6 months with NO contact with him of any kind, even if you pursue a divorce anyway.

I'll spare you all the chemical changes in the human brain that take place during an affair, because you'd only reply that I don't know you or what is going on in your brain anyway.

I'll spare you the explanation of why an affair is wrong based on accepted ethical and moral codes in every culture because no one in any of those cultures really knows you anyway.

I'll spare you the explanation of why you are not unique or special in the things you are saying, because since I don't really know you anyway, nothing I would tell you would sink in...

Wait, that might mean I do know something about you after all...

Typical wayward...

Even if you never post here again, I want you to remember this: Someday you will look back on this and realize that people here are right and you have made a terrible mistake. That day will come unless you are in the tiny percentage of affair partners that end up married and even smaller percentage that stay married for 5 years. When it does come, remember all of us cult members here at Marriage Builders.

I feel very sorry for your son's future wife, since she will have to deal with a man who learned that right and wrong have no meaning and what makes him feel good at the moment is all that counts. You can tell him you love him all you want and you might very well really love him that much, but what he will learn from is not what you say, but what you do. Your actions will teach him many times what your words will teach him and alas, your actions will teach him that vows and promises have no meaning and as long as you feel good about something and feel justified, you can do whatever you wish no matter what it does to another person or persons.

Mark

Wow.

That WW could (even temporarily) pick a man who would publicly laugh with glee in the face of another human's exquisite pain, over a man who can see past indescribably hurtful actions and continue to love...

Just wow.

What a complete and utter predatory thing to do. You not only interlope into MogRod's marriage. You come to a place where MogRod finds support for THE MOST devistating and life altering time in his life, and you invade it. Outrageous!

Have you no decency sir. Oh, thats right, you're an active adulteror. Silly question.

Since you are so intent on flexing your muscle across every facet of MogRod's life, why don't we bring YOUR BW here. I'm sure that would result in some shrinkage to your enormous, ahem, ego.

The man she picked is a cheater who abandoned his own family for an adulterous affair. At least she won't be surprised when he does the same to her. She is throwing her lot in with a cheater who will dump her just the same, and cares nothing for her child.

ummmmm....this is getting a little hard to believe.

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I can't take this anymore. You win MB. I am the bad guy. So be it. I do not want to subject myself into this obsession of trying to defend myself. You all say waywards are liers? How do you know I had a physical affair? Maybe it was strictly emotional. Maybe I lied & told the H about it to find a way out thinking he wont want me and I can go. (stupid, yes) but I am allowed to have my bad days. None of you know how deep the A got. i give him credit that he has tried, very hard. up until now, here with this, he pushed me even further away. I did read up on the site and the articles, my opinion does not change. Great advice for some, lousy for others. All I want to do, is what Ive been doing. Taking care of my son.
No I do not work, my job is my son. I tutor privately, and sub @ different schools on occasion. For the most of my exsistance I am taking care of someone I love (my son). H can voche for that. I am in a state of shock, not denial. Shock that my world has become a sitcome to ppl. I do not want to deal with it anymore.
Husband, I would like you to call me when you are on your way home so I can bring our son to you to spend time with. Yes, i do trust you with him. This morning I was very upset and emotional. You know I trust you with him.