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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
Yes, don't try to reason with a falling down drunk. Your wife is an addict just like any crackhead or alcoholic. When you turn on the lights in the crack house, the crackheads will be furious and will twist the truth. They will say or do anything to MAKE YOU STOP!

So, our advice is to expect it and don't bother using REASON on someone who uses no reason. Simply say: "I am sure sorry you are upset. Would you like a potato chip?"

This is golden advice and helps with my perspective. Also, thanks for the earlier quotes from Dr. Harley.

What were the two or three most important lessons that you learned during your recovery with your WH? Also, how do you maintain your own self-respect when you stay with someone who strays and lies? I know that's a delicate question and mean no disrespect to you. I'm asking the second question of myself everyday, am not finding any good answers to it, and am seeking perspective on it.

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The truth is on my side. What kind of "proof" do you share with kids?


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Originally Posted by DesertRider
What were the two or three most important lessons that you learned during your recovery with your WH?

Well, you are not in recovery YET. So, first you have to get to that point by killing her affair. The most important things I would recommend for you is:

1. Do not let your emotions rule you

2. Make a strategic plan and stick to it

3. DO NOT allow your wife to manipulate you with anger. Men fall for this one ALL TOO OFTEN. The goal is to save your marriage, not to avoid her anger at all costs.

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Also, how do you maintain your own self-respect when you stay with someone who strays and lies?

You don't stay with someone who does that. What we help you do is bust up the affair and bring the marriage to a point of recovery. If that does not work, Dr Harley recommends complete separation.

Having a strategic plan and goal in place will help you maintain your self respect, because instead of sitting there taking abuse, you are doing something. One man said he turned from a "SERF into a KNIGHT" when he exposed his wife's affair because by doing so, he was taking the reins of his marriage BACK. [his marriage is fully recovered, btw]

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The truth is on my side. What kind of "proof" do you share with kids?

I would not suggest going into much detail. Just give them an overview that includes timelines, names, etc. And most importantly, tell them adultery is immoral and what you are doing about it. They need your moral guidance along with assurances that you are doing SOMETHING about it.

If they think you are doing nothing, many kids will step up to the plate and try to do something about it themselves. We had one 18 yr old girl who ran her own mother off! Adultery is very traumatic for kids, it is even more traumatic for them to think the betrayed parent is doing nothing about it.

So sorry you are here, DR. frown



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Originally Posted by DesertRider
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No, I'm not happy living a lie. I'm also not happy with being the one who has to break this stinking news, this crappy little reality lesson, to my kids. "Hi kids, guess what? Mommy had an affair. Now you get to be raised by co-parents who don't live together. Can you spell joint custody? J-o-i-n-t C-u-s-t-o-d-y. Very good! Now you're ready for the Reality 101 Spelling Bee! It'll be really, really cool."

Feel better now?

DesertRider

DR, I am sorry that you are here but you have come to a good place.

I understand that you feel like you would be the one guilty of breaking up your family. That is not true. The guilt lays on your wife. It was her choice to have affairs and it is her choice if she continues to do so.

It is quite possible that your children already understands that something is not right and they may even have figured out that their mother has had affairs. In my opionion it is very harmful to children to see their own mother lie and hurt their father.

You can choose to fight for your family and your marriage, following MB principles. You can also choose to end your marriage due to your wife's affairs. Nobody would blame you for that. Actually I think that your children would understand your choice. Just tell them the truth and let them know that you are hurt.

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