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I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHAT CLAUZWIFE POSTED. CLAUZWIFE SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN RELATE TO MY SITUATION INSTEAD OF MELODYLANE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT BLOWJOBS AND CRACK... I DONT KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE BUT MY KIDS NOR MYSELF HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO ANYTHING LIKE THAT!

I 100% AGREE AND YOU CAN SEE FROM MY PREVIOUS POSTS THAT I DON'T THINK STAYING TOGETHER FOR THE SAKE OF THE KIDS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER. THIS IS NOT 1960 WHERE THE WIFE HAD NO SAY SO IN ANYTHING AND JUST STAYED HOME TO BE THE GOOD LITTLE WIFE.

SO IT'S OKAY FOR MY KIDS TO SEE ME AND MY HUSBAND ARGUING ALL THE TIME, AND NOT BEING HAPPY, FOR THEM TO THINK THAT THIS IS HOW A MARRIAGE SHOULD BE ? I THINK NOT... I HAVE TALKED TO SO MANY DIVORCED PARENTS AND THEIR CHILDREN WHO SAY THEY GET ALONG SO MUCH BETTER NOT SEEING THEIR PARENTS FIGHTING ANYMORE AND FOR THE DIVORCED PARENTS, THEY GET ALONG BETTER AND CAN BE FRIENDS CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BS LIKE THEY DID WHEN THEY WERE MARRIED.

I KNOW THE OM WILL NEVER LEAVE HIS WIFE, AND THAT IS THE ONE THING I POSTED IN MY ORIGINAL POST. HE HAS ALWAYS HAD EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AND HIS WIFE IS AWARE OF THEM.

ACTUALLY MY AFFAIR HAS MADE ME HAPPY, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OM AND MY KIDS I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE. I LIVE IN A TOWN WITH MY HUSBANDS FAMILY AND NONE OF MY OWN...FEELING OUTNUMBERED AND ALONE.


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NOT2FUN...

I HAVE NOT EXPOSED MY KIDS TO ANYTHING WITH THE OM. I HAVE NEVER SHOWN ANY CONTACT OF ANY KIND TO THE OM IN FRONT OF MY KIDS. THEY HAVE NO IDEA. NOR WOULD I DO THIS OR KISS HIM OR ANYTHING IN FRONT OF MY KISS.

MY DAD CHEATED ON MY MOM...5 TIMES WITH THE SAME PERSON...CALLED IT AN ERROR IN JUDGEMENT. I WAS ANGRY WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, BUT AS WRONG AS IT IS, AND I KNOW IT DIDN'T MAKE IT RIGHT WHAT I DID, BUT I KIND OF SEE WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID.

I KNOW THE OM WILL NEVER LEAVE HIS WIFE, AND I KNEW THAT WHEN WE STARTED DOING WHATEVER, AND I KNOW THE GRASS ISN'T GREENER ON THE OTHER SIDE, BUT I HONESTLY FEEL THAT SOMETIMES ME AND DH WOULD GET ALONG SO MUCH BETTER NOT BEING UP EACH OTHERS BUTTS ALL THE TIME. AND I FELT THIS WAY LONG BEFORE THE EA STARTED.BUT IF IT DOESN'T WORK OUT FOR ME AND HUBBY, I KNOW EVENTUALLY I WILL FIND SOMEONE WHO WILL LOVE ME AND MY KIDS AND AT THAT TIME THEY WILL UNDERSTAND.


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Well, that registers around 10 on the Fog-o-Meter.

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HE HAS ALWAYS HAD EXTRA CURRICULAR ACTIVITIES AND HIS WIFE IS AWARE OF THEM.

A rare catch.

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I HAVE TALKED TO SO MANY DIVORCED PARENTS AND THEIR CHILDREN WHO SAY THEY GET ALONG SO MUCH BETTER NOT SEEING THEIR PARENTS FIGHTING ANYMORE AND FOR THE DIVORCED PARENTS, THEY GET ALONG BETTER AND CAN BE FRIENDS CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BS LIKE THEY DID WHEN THEY WERE MARRIED.

Please.

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MELODYLANE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT BLOWJOBS AND CRACK

That's our Mel; The Nora Roberts of MB.

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Originally Posted by confusedinfla
NOT2FUN...

I HAVE NOT EXPOSED MY KIDS TO ANYTHING WITH THE OM. I HAVE NEVER SHOWN ANY CONTACT OF ANY KIND TO THE OM IN FRONT OF MY KIDS. THEY HAVE NO IDEA. NOR WOULD I DO THIS OR KISS HIM OR ANYTHING IN FRONT OF MY KISS.


Yeah, well that's what my mom would have said as well......too bad they were making out when they thought I was "gone".....it was not a moment I was "supposed" to be exposed to..... sick

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Why all the yelling in here?


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Originally Posted by confusedinfla
MY DAD CHEATED ON MY MOM...5 TIMES WITH THE SAME PERSON...CALLED IT AN ERROR IN JUDGEMENT. I WAS ANGRY WHEN I FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, BUT AS WRONG AS IT IS, AND I KNOW IT DIDN'T MAKE IT RIGHT WHAT I DID, BUT I KIND OF SEE WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID.


sick sick sick sick


That right there is as foggy of a statement as I have ever heard....I think it rates up there with my WS's "You didn't want me to be happy.....I found my happiness, and you wouldn't let me have it...."....... sick sick sick


Thats a winner folks.....glad to see your daddy taught you well....

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Why all the yelling in here?

I'M NOT SURE!

I THINK SHE WANTS PEOPLE TO ENABLE HER ADULTERY. SHE HAS NOT NOTICED THE NAME OF THIS SITE IS MARRIAGE BUILDERS.

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ONE OF THE GIRLS I WORK WITH, SHE IS 22, HER MOM AND DAD DIVORCED AND HER AND HER SISTER ARE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW THAN HEARING THEIR DAD CALL THEIR MOM A PIECE OF S**** ALL THE TIME.


ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS, WHO I HAVE KNOWN SINCE HIGH SCHOOL..HIS WIFE AND HIM WERE MARRIED FOR 9 YEARS THEY HAVE A SON. THEY GET ALONG SOO MUCH BETTER NOW BECAUSE THEY DONT' FIGHT ALL THE TIME. THEIR SON IS SOO HAPPY.


ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS, WHO GOT MARRIED WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL. HAS 3 KIDS BASICALLY THE SAME LIFE AND STORY AS ME, IS CONTEMPLATING THE SAME THING I AM CAUSE SHE DOESN'T LOVE HER HUSBAND ANYMORE AND HAS NEVER HAD AN AFFAIR OF ANY KIND.

PEOPLE JUST FALL OUT OF LOVE SOMETIMES... HOW MANY POSTS ARE ON THERE UNDER EMOTIONAL NEEDS... SHE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANYMORE / HE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... HOW COME ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING?


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Originally Posted by introvert
Why all the yelling in here?

I would suspect its because we didn't hold her hand and tell her "its alright,,,your happiness is all that matters...who cares if your kids childhood is ruined....YOU NEED TO DO WHATEVER MAKES YOU HAPPIEST.."...... sick


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Originally Posted by confusedinfla
ONE OF THE GIRLS I WORK WITH, SHE IS 22, HER MOM AND DAD DIVORCED AND HER AND HER SISTER ARE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW THAN HEARING THEIR DAD CALL THEIR MOM A PIECE OF S**** ALL THE TIME.


ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS, WHO I HAVE KNOWN SINCE HIGH SCHOOL..HIS WIFE AND HIM WERE MARRIED FOR 9 YEARS THEY HAVE A SON. THEY GET ALONG SOO MUCH BETTER NOW BECAUSE THEY DONT' FIGHT ALL THE TIME. THEIR SON IS SOO HAPPY.


ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS, WHO GOT MARRIED WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL. HAS 3 KIDS BASICALLY THE SAME LIFE AND STORY AS ME, IS CONTEMPLATING THE SAME THING I AM CAUSE SHE DOESN'T LOVE HER HUSBAND ANYMORE AND HAS NEVER HAD AN AFFAIR OF ANY KIND.

PEOPLE JUST FALL OUT OF LOVE SOMETIMES... HOW MANY POSTS ARE ON THERE UNDER EMOTIONAL NEEDS... SHE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANYMORE / HE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... HOW COME ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING?


because you SHOULD have taken care of this BEFORE you decided to boink another man....(and believe you me, I was tempted to say much much worse....)......


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Originally Posted by not2fun
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NOT2FUN...

I HAVE NOT EXPOSED MY KIDS TO ANYTHING WITH THE OM. I HAVE NEVER SHOWN ANY CONTACT OF ANY KIND TO THE OM IN FRONT OF MY KIDS. THEY HAVE NO IDEA. NOR WOULD I DO THIS OR KISS HIM OR ANYTHING IN FRONT OF MY KISS.


Yeah, well that's what my mom would have said as well......too bad they were making out when they thought I was "gone".....it was not a moment I was "supposed" to be exposed to..... sick

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THE TIMES THAT THE OM AND I HAVE SPENT TOGETHER HAVE BEEN NO WHERE NEAR EITHER OF OUR HOUSES OR FAMILIES.. NEVER AT MY HOUSE OR HIS... NO WHERE WHERE MY KIDS OR HIS COULD SEE ANYTHING OR PICK UP ON ANYTHING. THAT'S JUST WRONG ON SO MANY DIFFRENT LEVELS THAN AN AFFAIR.


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ONE OF THE GIRLS I WORK WITH, SHE IS 22, HER MOM AND DAD DIVORCED AND HER AND HER SISTER ARE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW THAN HEARING THEIR DAD CALL THEIR MOM A PIECE OF S**** ALL THE TIME.


ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS, WHO I HAVE KNOWN SINCE HIGH SCHOOL..HIS WIFE AND HIM WERE MARRIED FOR 9 YEARS THEY HAVE A SON. THEY GET ALONG SOO MUCH BETTER NOW BECAUSE THEY DONT' FIGHT ALL THE TIME. THEIR SON IS SOO HAPPY.


ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS, WHO GOT MARRIED WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL. HAS 3 KIDS BASICALLY THE SAME LIFE AND STORY AS ME, IS CONTEMPLATING THE SAME THING I AM CAUSE SHE DOESN'T LOVE HER HUSBAND ANYMORE AND HAS NEVER HAD AN AFFAIR OF ANY KIND.

PEOPLE JUST FALL OUT OF LOVE SOMETIMES... HOW MANY POSTS ARE ON THERE UNDER EMOTIONAL NEEDS... SHE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANYMORE / HE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... HOW COME ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING?

Because marriage takes work and commitment confusedinfidel. You have been here since September and have absorbed nothing?

Time to check the Troll-o-Meter.




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CIF,

Does it occur to you that acting like a **EDIT** to your husband in front of your kids is a result of you projecting your disgust with yourself on him? That you are currently acting like a **EDIT** because you are commiting adultery and need to make HIM out to be the bad guy to justify your despicible behavior to yourself?

It's what my FWW did during her adultery...

It's ALWAYS the same story.

Get a **EDIT** clue and stop destroying your children's ability to have a healthy home.

Take some **EDIT** accountability for YOUR actions.

YMMS!

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BH(me): 40ish
FWW:(ILMH) 28yo
DS 3yo
Married 7yrs
Together 10 yrs

??? Spring '07 - Adultery Begins
8/25/07 - 1st D-day (week of our anniv.)
8/07 thru 5/08 - About a dozen D-days/Gaslighting/Flaunting/Fake Recoveries

She finally quit on...

1/1/08 - First real NC attempt(Maybe?)
3/1/08 - Told me OM is an A**hole.(Hope?)
5/3/08 - D-day (Admitted to PA once)
5/4/08 - Latest D-day(Finally confessed to multiple EA/PA in our home)
5/8/08 - Present
Struggling to hold on

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THAT'S JUST WRONG ON SO MANY DIFFRENT LEVELS THAN AN AFFAIR.

Ah….At last. Some real integrity!


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Originally Posted by confusedinfla
THE TIMES THAT THE OM AND I HAVE SPENT TOGETHER HAVE BEEN NO WHERE NEAR EITHER OF OUR HOUSES OR FAMILIES.. NEVER AT MY HOUSE OR HIS... NO WHERE WHERE MY KIDS OR HIS COULD SEE ANYTHING OR PICK UP ON ANYTHING. THAT'S JUST WRONG ON SO MANY DIFFRENT LEVELS THAN AN AFFAIR.


HMMM.....folks the FOG is so THICK I cannot see.....this here is pretty selfish thinking.

Oh, and you only just begun your Affair honey, give it time....as your fog gets thicker and thicker, you will do stupid things, LIKE MY MOM....

I didn't see that make-out session until they had been together for 2 yrs.....so just wait....


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THAT'S JUST WRONG ON SO MANY DIFFRENT LEVELS THAN AN AFFAIR.

Ah….At last. Some real integrity!



ROTFLMAO.....that's EXACTLY what I thought.....(rolley eyes icon please....)

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Originally Posted by confusedinfla
ONE OF THE GIRLS I WORK WITH, SHE IS 22, HER MOM AND DAD DIVORCED AND HER AND HER SISTER ARE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW THAN HEARING THEIR DAD CALL THEIR MOM A PIECE OF S**** ALL THE TIME.

I will say that hearing their father call their mom a piece of sh*t was an error in judgement for their parents. No child should have to hear that and even happily married people have arguments, you know. However, as a child of divorce, I will say that I am NOT better off and I have NOT been better of since the divorce. I had an absent father and I watched my mother go through another marriage where she was cheated on. The only time that children are better off when their parents are divorced is when there is some type of abuse. Trying to justify divorcing is just self serving bullsh*t.


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My children told me of H's A. They found his myspace looked at his friends, looked at their pictures and the next thing I knew they were calling me to the computer. There were pictures on her web site of them together. Two weeks later he confessed in MC session, I told him I already knew and of the pictures. The look on his face was ..........priceless!


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Originally Posted by confusedinfla
I DON'T THINK STAYING TOGETHER FOR THE SAKE OF THE KIDS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER. THIS IS NOT 1960 WHERE THE WIFE HAD NO SAY SO IN ANYTHING AND JUST STAYED HOME TO BE THE GOOD LITTLE WIFE.
Who said it was? Dr. Harley is quite clear that his goal is for two parents to stay together and be in love with each other. The kids will thrive when their parents have a loving marriage.

Originally Posted by confusedinfla
ACTUALLY MY AFFAIR HAS MADE ME HAPPY, IF IT WASN'T FOR THE OM AND MY KIDS I DON'T KNOW WHERE I WOULD BE.
Imagine where you will be, then, after you've left your BH and your children hate you for destroying their family and the OM refuses to see you anymore. Then everyone will be unhappy, including you.

Also, why do you type in all capital letters? Is your caps lock key stuck?


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Originally Posted by confusedinfla
ONE OF THE GIRLS I WORK WITH, SHE IS 22, HER MOM AND DAD DIVORCED AND HER AND HER SISTER ARE MUCH BETTER OFF NOW THAN HEARING THEIR DAD CALL THEIR MOM A PIECE OF S**** ALL THE TIME.


ONE OF MY GOOD FRIENDS, WHO I HAVE KNOWN SINCE HIGH SCHOOL..HIS WIFE AND HIM WERE MARRIED FOR 9 YEARS THEY HAVE A SON. THEY GET ALONG SOO MUCH BETTER NOW BECAUSE THEY DONT' FIGHT ALL THE TIME. THEIR SON IS SOO HAPPY.


ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS, WHO GOT MARRIED WHILE IN HIGH SCHOOL. HAS 3 KIDS BASICALLY THE SAME LIFE AND STORY AS ME, IS CONTEMPLATING THE SAME THING I AM CAUSE SHE DOESN'T LOVE HER HUSBAND ANYMORE AND HAS NEVER HAD AN AFFAIR OF ANY KIND.

PEOPLE JUST FALL OUT OF LOVE SOMETIMES... HOW MANY POSTS ARE ON THERE UNDER EMOTIONAL NEEDS... SHE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANYMORE / HE DOESN'T LOVE ME ANY MORE... HOW COME ALL THESE DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THE SAME THING?

Ummmm....did anyone in your little scenarious ever consider NOT FIGHTING?

Here's a clue: find a different way to communicate.

Having an Affair isn't going to help you all "get along".



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