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Hi,

I joined recently b/c I have been struggling with finding out that DH of 10 yrs has been using internet pornography for the last 3 yrs of our marriage.

When we first started dating 13 yrs ago, I found out he was doing this and told him that [u]I would not be in a relationship where porn was used[/u] by my SO b/c I was hurt very badly by my 1st husband being a sex addict. He was very understanding and swore to me he would never do that again and promised to never hurt me in that way. Until now to my knowledge, DH was always sensitive to my emotional need for trust and honesty. He would go so far as to make it a point to throw out the swimsuit issue of Sports Illustrated when it came in the mail.

I love having sex with my husband and have always been very satisfied with our lovemaking, but DH has not. He struggled with issues of premature ejaculation(PE), a lack of sexual experience before me, and a lifetime of growing up where affection was never displayed between his parents. He has never seen them kiss, hold hands or hug.

We alleviated the PE issues with the use of a vibrator and desensitizing condoms. With the exception of not having sex as often as we would like due to children and a lack of privacy, I thought we were both happy and satisfied with our lovemaking.

When it came to light he was using porn again, he told me he was using it because our methods of overcoming his PE issues have always bothered him, and that he has never been satisfied with our sex or level of affection. He told me he would try to find videos with M/F sex and then try to last longer than the other male.

Since then, he has promised again to not use pornography. We have been much more affectionate and have had really great sex almost every day. He no longer has PE issues and is very satisfied sexually.

The problem we have not overcome is my inability to trust him again. I've had some major depression and obsessive behavior that my doctor has been trying to help me with. I engaged in serious obsessive snooping on his computer for sometimes 13 hours a day. A medication change has seemed to help the OCD, but my moods are still always on a roller coaster. Just when I think I'm better, I find out something new that sets us back.

The most recent hurt was when I found out he was clicking on links to teen sex. These girls are younger than half my age, and are the same age as my son's girlfriends. I am sick and disgusted by his behavior. I thought I married Mr. Right, and am wondering if all men are like that or if there is a man out there that would never hurt me like this again.

Feeling lost, angry, abandoned, resentful, revengeful, uncommitted...and in lust/love with DH too.

I'd love to hear from other members, with the exception of any faith-based recommendations as we keep our religious beliefs private and to ourselves.

Mrs. Write


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You know PE can be a side effect of porn and masturbation behaviors. Addiction can escalate into arrestable behaviors. Looking at teen stuff would be of concern to me. It isn't too large of a leap to go into a chat room to find a teen to chat with...

Has he cheated on you physically? That's a sign of possible escalation as well.

You know looking at porn has nothing to do with your sex life.

You know he's likely been looking at porn throughout all of your marriage.

IF it is a compusion/addiction, whatever, he's self medicating. Just like an alcholic doesn't drink because they are thirsty. They drink to self medicate.

With couples dealing with this sort of thing, recovery takes 3-5 years, much like an affair. I'm concerned that you'd think you'd regain a healthy amount of trust in 2 months...My husband is 18 months sober and I still don't trust him.

Have you gone to COSA meetings?
Have you healed yourself from your first marriage?
Have you figured out why you keep attracting/committing to these type of men?

Concentrate on yourself. Heal yourself. Find your truths, and make boundaries.

This isn't the time for you to wonder if there are any good men left in the world. This is the time for you to learn to be OK with yourself,so that you can 1) make decisions from a position of strength and 2) be OK with living by yourself if you have to.











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Learn more about sex/love/porn addictions here recoverynation(dot)com

I'd research on this site how to effectively set and maintain bounderies and learn better negotiation skills, as well as communication skills.

Good Luck to you!


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Hi MumofTwo,

Thank you for your reply. Here's some additional info:

I know his PE was not due to porn/masterbation. I have the unfortunately experience of knowing how chaffed a sex addict is, and my DH has never had that.

I agree interent porn can spill over into real life, and that is why I have zero tolerance for it. He has kept his word since D-Day to stop. He knows if I find he has done it again, it will end our marriage.

The teen videos were listed as 18+, but it still hurts me, as a mother, wife, and woman. He said he did not seek them out in particular and didn't discriminate as long as the video provided the act of sex between M/F that lasted long enough for him to compete with the other male in climaxing last.

He has never cheated on my physically. In addition, he has only had sex twice before me and with the same girlfriend.

I agree that an unsatisfied sex life is a pathetic excuse for betraying my trust and looking at porn. I continue to challenge him in figuring out why he did this in an effort to address any root causes.

I agree it's a bit of a stretch that he did not look at porn the first 7 years of our marriage. The reason I think his story may be truthful is that he explained that it conincided with his discovery of an internet search engine (Firefox) that had a feature where temporarily internet files were not saved.

Thank you for what to expect regarding my regaining trust. I know I will never be completely secure and need contant reassurance from him. It would, however, be nice to ride the Ferris Wheel once in a while instead of the Roller Coaster.

I've never gone to meetings or have gotten any organized healing from my first marriage. I did try very hard to make better choices and feel that I did. However, I agree there does seem to be some similarities.

My next step is to focus on plan A, and I have definitely set my boundaries regarding pornography or any other conduct that is unbecoming of a faithful spouse.

Your last comments are so true. Thank you!

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Hi Bottlerocket,

Thanks for the site and good luck to you too!

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Mrs Write,

Even if you feel that your current H is not at the same level of addiction as your 1st H, he still needs to be in a SA Recovery program. That is the only way that you will ever be guaranteed that he has learned new behaviors to deter him from acting out. You may be able to bottle it up with threats "now", but do you want to be going through this 5 or 10 years from now?

I wouldn't try to figure out his issues yourself, you are not qualified to do that, regardless of what you have gone through. He needs PROFESSIONAL individual and possibly group therapy to recover from this.

I speak from living through this nightmare for far too long. Not intending to sound harsh, but give yourself a reality check. This is his issue to recover from. Making promises that you police is not the complete path to recovery.

Good luck! My heart aches for you.

P.S. What are his secondary addictions? Are you watching out for those? Just because he threw the SI swimsuit edition out does NOT mean he has not looked at porn. And just because you haven't found it on your home computer until now ALSO does NOT mean that he has been clean all this time. That's part of the reality check. I know this is hard, but don't try to talk yourself into it being less than it might be.

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A disappointing update...

We went to our first marriage counseling session and it went horribly. My H was nervous that he would get picked on, but it turns out I was "it". The quack was obviously sexist and turned me off to ever going back to any counselor.

Here's some quick quotes from him that make my skin crawl...

"that's why I don't keep a gun in the house, because I would kill my wife"

"haven't you ever thought of putting your kids in a bag with a rock and throwing them over the bridge. I have."

"all men like to look at women and think about having sex with them. that's human nature."

"why else would women dress the way they do if they didn't want men to want them sexually"

"Volleyball Olympics is just softporn. My wife always asks why I don't watch the men and I just laugh. I like to look at the women and think about having sex with them. Just wait until your H watches. He'll deny it after the appointment but only becuase he wants to save the marriage."

I could go on, but uggh....

All my H could do during the appointment was think, "great this guy is just getting my W pissed off and then she's going to take it out on me after the appt."

---thanks for your vote of confidence in me H and for slamming on the car breaks later and almost smashing my head into the dashboard and screaming at me in front of my daughter's school parking lot. Oh yeah, I forgot, you didn't really mean to hit them that hard. I understand. What'd you say??? Why don't I cheer up? Sure thing. Just as soon as I can get the vision of your masterbating to thousands of women and men on the internet having sex for the last 3 years out of my heart.

Why am I ranting? Because women need to take a firm stand against the way women are being used and treated.

Just say No!

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Normal, mainstream counselors don't do well with sex addiction. As you just found out.

Can YOU get yourself to see a sex addiction therapist? That's when I finally got validation.

Can you get yourself to no-porn.net? There's a messageboard for partners. So does recovery nation.com.

There's also a book called "Shattered Hearts" put out by Carnes. It's for partner's sex addicts. I also have read the 7 levels of intimacy, so I know what a healthy, intimate relationship is supposed to look like.

Before you plan A, heal yourself. Please. Plan A does not work with those who have addictions/compulsions/choosing to self-medicate.

I also found my husband lied to me about his sexual history, when he had no need to.



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Mrs Write,
You have been given some good resources. You particularly need to use them for yourself since we know you can't change him. Go to a COSA meeting.

So sorry about your MC. That makes me sick to read what he said to you. puke

I hope that your next update shares some things that you have done for yourself. You need to get strong so that you can be prepared to move on if necessary from this addict.

Sorry for your suffering.


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FWH - 36

6 years of discovery.
Now - one day at a time....

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