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#2119621 09/02/08 01:20 PM
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The word ”closure” is sometimes used on this pages.
When it is used it is nearly always used by a WS. I have sometimes wandered if there is a section in the Wayward handbook that says something like:

“Closure” a useful term if the A have been discovered. If used properly a skilled WS can gain acceptance from the BS for one or several additional meetings with the OP to achieve “closure”.



I believe that when The Harleys stress the importance of the NC letter rather then the NC meeting or the NC telephone call that is for very real cause.



How many of the FWS’s who had a last meeting with the OP promised their OP to never to forget him/her? How many promised to always keep him/her in their hearth? How many wished him/her forever a happy life? How many gave the impression by words and half-spoken statements that staying with the BS was a sacrifice, in order to do “the right thing” or “for the sake of the children”?
It seems important to many WS’s to give a “feel good” farewell to the OP. Unless there is such a “feel good” farewell there is no “closure”. In many of these so called NC last meetings the observed loyalty of the WS is to the OP. And then they return to their BS: “That was that, I will never meet him/her again.”
“Closure?”


Let us assume that the person they were about to meet had an other role. Would they have said the same “feel good” statements if they spoke to their W’s rapist? Or the person who went after their H with a knife?
What is then different with the OP who made love to the S of the BS? One should then expect the same consideration? Apparently not!



“Closure” ???




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As a recovering alcoholic, I can recognize the RUSE of "closure." It is in the same category as the "TAPERING" method, used by many alcoholics to get permission to continue drinking. [many non-alcoholics fall for this too]

An alcoholic who is really serious about stopping, STOPS, he doesn't go have another drink. Similarly, when one really wants to CLOSE something, they CLOSE IT, they don't continue contact. Ain't it clever how that logic works? grin

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I have sometimes wandered if there is a section in the Wayward handbook that says something like:

You are so very RIGHT about that wayward handbook. "Closure" and "tapering" are on the same page, I believe. laugh

What is really scary is that so many non-wayward minded people fall for this kind of stuff. TEEF


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Originally Posted by Frank57
Let us assume that the person they were about to meet had an other role. Would they have said the same “feel good” statements if they spoke to their W’s rapist? Or the person who went after their H with a knife?
What is then different with the OP who made love to the S of the BS? One should then expect the same consideration? Apparently not!



“Closure” ???

Excellent points, Frank! Closure is so often just another selfish game. Thanks for a thought-provoking analogy.

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Frank,

Closure is supposed to look like this:

From Dr H:

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How should an unfaithful spouse tell his lover that their relationship is over? If left to their own devices, many would take a Caribbean cruise to say their final good-byes. Obviously, that will not do. In fact, I recommend that the final good-bye be in the form of a letter, and not in person or even by telephone.

My advice is to write a final letter in a way that the victimized spouse would agree to send it. It should begin with a statement of how selfish it was to cause those they loved so much pain, and while marital reconciliation cannot completely repay the offense, it's the right thing to do. A statement should be made about how much the unfaithful spouse cares about his spouse and family, and for their protection, has decided to completely end the relationship with the lover. He or she has promised never to see or communicate with the lover again in life, and asks the lover to respect that promise. Nothing should be said about how much the lover will be missed. After the letter is written, the victimized spouse should read and approve it before it is sent.

All Blessings,
Jerry

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I don't understand people's need for "Closure". I think it's often an attempt to keep contact going or to give the other person one more chance to change their mind (get back in the relationship).


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Well Frank,

You have described my FWS's 'closure' to a T!

It wasn't closure. It took a bit longer than that for NC. :RollieEyes:

It was what it was.I listened to the OP messages about how my H would 'always have a place in her heart blahblahblah' puke And she still wanted contact and kept contact until I had a fit and he FINALLY quit for good.

Took about 6 months for my FWS to see the light, it kept those ohsowonderful/OPwasohsowonderful feelings for OP so much longer, so to speak, cause he got that 'in person' farewell. And that hurt A LOT.

And it took a LOT longer for me to recover. It really was the hardest thing to overcome.

This was all before I had MB. Sigh. sigh

The NC letter is an absolute must.

Thanks for your thread. smile stickout

Love in Christ,
Miss M


me: FBS
H: FWS
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