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Read some articles from Investors Business Daily and ask yourself
Is this really the change we want??


http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302222641317480

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We are citizens of the world, Sen. Obama told thousands of nonvoting Germans during his recent tour of the Middle East and Europe. And if the Global Poverty Act (S. 2433) he has sponsored becomes law, which is almost certain if he wins in November, we're also going to be taxpayers of the world.

http://www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=302827467707515

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His new New Deal also guarantees a "living wage," with a $10 minimum wage indexed to inflation; and "fair trade" and "fair labor practices," with breaks for "patriot employers" who cow-tow to unions, and sticks for "nonpatriot" companies that don't.

That's just for starters — first-term stuff.

Obama doesn't stop with socialized health care. He wants to socialize your entire human resources department — from payrolls to pensions. His social-microengineering even extends to mandating all employers provide seven paid sick days per year to salary and hourly workers alike.

How many more employers will close their doors under this plan??

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According to the Chicago Tribune, Obama operatives flooded into the Chicago Board of Election Commissioners on Jan. 2, 1996, to begin the tedious process of challenging hundreds of signatures on the nominating petitions of Palmer and three other lesser-known contenders for her Illinois state Senate seat. They kept challenging petitions until every one of Obama's Democratic primary rivals was forced off the ballot.

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Obama supporters might excuse the candidate's support from communists, Marxists and socialists, saying he is the only alternative since these groups would never support the Republican nominee. (Which is entirely correct and indicative of the Democratic Party's continuing decline into the pit of democratic socialism.)

But the truth is, these groups usually reserve their endorsements and support for fringe candidates, not someone from a major party. That's not the case this time around. They seem to have their man.

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Barack Obama's economic blueprint sounds like one his communist father tried to foist on Kenya 40 years ago, with massive taxes and succor shrouded as "investments."

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Most Americans revile socialism, yet Barack Obama's poll numbers remain competitive. One explanation: He's a longtime disciple of a man whose mission was to teach radicals to disguise their ideology.

One of Obama's main inspirations was a man dedicated to revolutionary change that he was convinced "must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, nonchallenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and change the future."

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Obama calls his years as an Alinskyesque community organizer in Chicago "the best education I ever had, and where I learned the true meaning of my Christian faith." But as radicalism expert Richard Lawrence Poe has noted, "Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. In organizing coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer."



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careful you might confuse people with the facts.


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Or confuse it FOR facts.

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Our children are our future...and they are so royally screwed. grumble


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I hadn't finished reading this article..but reading further down..excuse me?? They want to create a seabed authority that will CHARGE US to drill off the coast of OUR Country???


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The U.N. Millennium declaration called for a "currency transfer tax," a "tax on the rental value of land and natural resources," a "royalty on worldwide fossil energy production — oil, natural gas, coal . . . fees for the commercial use of the oceans, fees for the airplane use of the skies, fees for the use of the electromagnetic spectrum, fees on foreign exchange transactions, and a tax on the carbon content of fuels."

Co-sponsors of S. 2433 include Democrats Maria Cantwell of Washington, Dianne Feinstein of California, Richard Durbin of Illinois and Robert Menendez of New Jersey. GOP globalists supporting the bill include Chuck Hagel of Nebraska and Richard Lugar of Indiana.

Lugar has worked with Obama to promote more aid to Russia to promote nuclear nonproliferation. Lugar also promotes the Law of the Sea treaty, which turns over the world's oceans to an International Seabed Authority that would charge us to drill offshore and have veto power over the movements and actions of the U.S. Navy.

Obama's agenda sounds like defeated 2004 Democratic candidate John Kerry's "global test" for U.S. foreign policy decisions where "you have to do it in a way that passes the test — that passes the global test — where your countrymen, your people understand fully why you're doing what you're doing and you can prove to the world that you did it for legitimate reasons."

Obama has called on the U.S. to "lead by example" on global warming and probably would submit to a Kyoto-like agreement that would sock Americans with literally trillions of dollars in costs over the next half century for little or no benefit.

"We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times . . . and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK," Obama has said. "That's not leadership. That's not going to happen."

Oh, really? Who's to say we can't load up our SUV and head out in search of bacon double cheeseburgers at the mall? China? India? Bangladesh? The U.N.?

In an Obama White House, American sovereignty will become an endangered species. The Global Poverty Act is the first toe in the water of global socialism.



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Our children are our future...and they are so royally screwed. grumble

It certainly helps to be informed about ALL the candidates, and not just falling lock stock for what the media sells you..

In reading further down in this article:

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Obama calls his years as an Alinskyesque community organizer in Chicago "the best education I ever had, and where I learned the true meaning of my Christian faith." But as radicalism expert Richard Lawrence Poe has noted, "Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. In organizing coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer."

Indeed, Alinsky believed in sacrificing ethics and morals for the great cause. "Ethical standards must be elastic to stretch with the times," Alinsky wrote in his last book, "Rules for Radicals," adding that "all values are relative in a world of political relativity."

Published a year before Alinsky's death in 1972, "Rules for Radicals" includes a dedication in which he gives "an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical . . . who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer."

Alinsky's writings even explain what often seems like Obama's oversized ego. In New Hampshire in January, for example, the senator told an audience that "a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany . . . and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama."

It was a bizarre spectacle, but consider that Alinsky believed that "anyone who is working against the haves is always facing odds, and in many cases heavy odds. If he or she does not have that complete self-confidence (or call it ego) that he can win, then the battle is lost before it is even begun."

According to Alinsky, "Ego must be so all-pervading that the personality of the organizer is contagious, that it converts the people from despair to defiance, creating a mass ego."


The problem is, many will read these things and it won't make a difference in how they vote, they will vote for him because he's a Democrat, or because he's black, or because they feel guilty for being blessed by God for having wealth or even being gasp, middle class..as if there is something wrong with that..they aren't rich so therefore they are disgruntled..

It's a sad situation.





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Originally Posted by ThornedRose
Read some articles from Investors Business Daily and ask yourself
Is this really the change we want??



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We are citizens of the world, Sen. Obama told thousands of nonvoting Germans during his recent tour of the Middle East and Europe. And if the Global Poverty Act (S. 2433) he has sponsored becomes law, which is almost certain if he wins in November, we're also going to be taxpayers of the world.

Pleaassee.....these editorials from Investor's Business Daily are full of inaccuracies, innuendos and distortions. These are editorials, not fact based news articles. Editorials by design are essays intended to persuade people. They are opinions!

I would strongly encourage all voters from both sides of the aisle to get on the internet and do a little fact-finder when you hear outrageous claims made against, not only your candidate, but the opposing candidate. The amount of inaccurate information being passed around is staggering!

I read quite a bit of these editorials and then followed up on them. There are things in there that range from extreme exaggerations to outright lies... all designed to scare voters.

I'm not insinuating that either party is above this type of behavior. Let us not forget that George W. Bush was accused of:

-allowing 9/11 to happen so 'they' would have an excuse to go into Iraq
-had strong and sinister ties to a prominent Saudi Arabia 'oil' family
-'Rigged' the voting in the 2000 election so he could win
-was going to start a draft to send troops to Iraq


I'm sure I could come up with a dozen more 'scary' things about GWB if I spend some time on it. My point is - these accusations are designed to attack someone's character and scare the American public.

BTW, here is the link to the Global Poverty Act S.2433.

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2433

All it says is the President will have a strategy 'promote' the reduction in global poverty. It says nothing about the US gov't funding it. If you read the full text, it even quotes Bush:

"Bush participated in the International Conference on Finance for Development and endorsed the Monterey Consensus, stating: `We fight against poverty because hope is an answer to terror. We fight against poverty because opportunity is a fundamental right to human dignity. We fight against poverty because faith requires it and conscience demands it. We fight against poverty with a growing conviction that major progress is within our reach.'.


I would urge every one to get their news from a variety of sources, including those that 'support' the other side. If you watch Fox, then also watch CNN. Read newspapers that are known for more objective reporting. The Christian Science Monitor is one. If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, then make it a point to also watch Meet the Press.

There is almost no way to fairly evaluate our candidates without getting both sides of the story. Even then, the amount of 'muck' you have to wade through to get to the facts is astounding.

I, for one, watched both conventions because it's my duty as an American citizen to understand the idealogy of both political parties. I was also watch every debate.

I cannot tell you how many people I know that won't watch one second of either convention, one debate or read one article from a respectable newspaper. They are the same people who like to make comments like, 'Obama is a racist' or 'George W. Bush is stupid.'

I'm not accusing anyone here of anything but when people start quoting editorials as fact, I really get a bee in my bonnet!




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And BTW, an excellent website, run by the St.Peterburgs Times and the Congressional Quaterly is Politifact:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

They research a lot of claims put out by both parties as well as chain emails. rumors, etcs.

It's a great place to check out some of those 'outrageous' claims. They have a lot on the claims made by both parties at their respective conventions.


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Originally Posted by MizzJuneBug
I would urge every one to get their news from a variety of sources, including those that 'support' the other side. If you watch Fox, then also watch CNN. Read newspapers that are known for more objective reporting. The Christian Science Monitor is one. If you listen to Rush Limbaugh, then make it a point to also watch Meet the Press.

I agree that one should use several sources for news, check out Drudge Report for a wide variety, but I would not include CNN in that list if one is seeking accurate, unbiased news sources. They have a very poor track record as once evidenced by their sarin nerve gas "story" which was later found to be completely fraudulent. I would place them in the same category as other activist and unreliable news sources such as CBS, ABC, NPR, etc.

I didn't have a chance to check the story that ThornedRose posted from Investors Business Daily, and haven't read it in years, but I do know they have a strong reputation as an accurate news source. I will have to check into it.


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Originally Posted by MizzJuneBug
I'm not accusing anyone here of anything but when people start quoting editorials as fact, I really get a bee in my bonnet!

I don't understand why, if the opinion is well reasoned and BASED ON FACT. Why not? They are acceptable and legitimate sources in every political debate group I have ever participated in. [Tony Snow was in one] Sometimes the opinion is stupid, sure, but often they are very good if based on solid FACTS and well reasoned.

In fact, an editorial from Blowhard Times in Backwoods, Texas is often more factual and accurate than a hard news story, above the fold, from the New York Times.


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Originally Posted by MizzJuneBug
And BTW, an excellent website, run by the St.Peterburgs Times and the Congressional Quaterly is Politifact:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

They research a lot of claims put out by both parties as well as chain emails. rumors, etcs.

It's a great place to check out some of those 'outrageous' claims. They have a lot on the claims made by both parties at their respective conventions.
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Thanks for that website. It's enlightening and funny. I really got a kick out of the pants on fire lies.

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I would place them in the same category as other activist and unreliable news sources such as CBS, ABC, NPR, etc.
NPR is an activist organization and unreliable?

Ummm...ok.

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I would place them in the same category as other activist and unreliable news sources such as CBS, ABC, NPR, etc.
NPR is an activist organization and unreliable?

Ummm...ok.

Of course. It is a left wing news organization. Completely unreliable. What is sickening is that taxpayer dollars are used to support them.


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Of course. It is a left wing news organization. Completely unreliable. What is sickening is that taxpayer dollars are used to support them.
Ok. That's why Tomlinson started dictating their agenda in 05?

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When these people started NPR 25 years ago, they were young, hungry. They had something to say. They were rebels against the establishment. 25 years later, they all Are the Establishment. Now they read Dubya's press reports & call that news.

The policy decision at NPR not to say anything against Dubya, started right after 9/11. I even heard once-respected Daniel Schorr refer to Dubya as 'our fearless leader.' He may be Schorr's - he certainly isn't mine. And NPR is not public radio.

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They are all establishment liberals with a liberal agenda, catperson. There isn't a conservative amongst them. And thats fine, but taxpayer dollars shouldn't be used to support their little liberal station.


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Gee, not according to what I find on the net, ml. I can find just as many instances where the right is now leading NPR. BS all the way around.

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Originally Posted by catperson
where the right is now leading NPR.

What does this MEAN? I have no idea what you mean.


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Search it. You'll get the same stories I got.

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The American Enterprise Institute is an independent thinktank that is beholden to none and they wrote a very balanced piece, IMO, about NPR. Here are some excerpts:

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NPR’s overall news reporting is only a bit more liberally biased than the reporting on the commercial networks. But NPR stands clearly to the left of its private-sector competition, mostly because of its commentaries. Right-leaning commentators are rare on NPR; left-leaners, as you’ll see, are not.

Most old-school or throwback leftist bias on NPR falls into one of three categories, listed below in ascending order of importance.

The first contains examples of a frequently amusing sociopolitical exoticism. In October 2004, for example, All Things Considered co-host Melissa Block referred to Ralph Nader as a “major” Presidential candidate. A few days after the election, reporter Pam Fessler gave “international monitors” plenty of time to gripe about how voting rules in the U.S. vary from state to state.

Far goofier was a commentary from Eve Ensler, the mistress-mind of The Vagina Monologues, who shared: “I’ve been plagued by self-hatred my whole life, as I think many of us have...I think capitalism breeds it. Actually, I don’t think capitalism would exist without it.... We buy products and we consume things to fix ourselves.”

Another commentator, Julie Zickefoose, offered pro-woodpecker, anti-person bias: “Must we trap them and bundle them into cages? Given a choice between such intervention and certain extinction, and the intellect to consider it, what would an ivory-bill choose? I imagine it flying away in a long, straight line, putting miles of swamp between it and the further workings of humanity.”

The second category encompasses complacency about the nature of Communism. Correspondent Rob Gifford more than once gave Communist coercion short shrift. For example, in a piece on North Korean refugees living in South Korea and practicing Christianity, Gifford remarked, "Having spent their early years in one of the world’s most atheistic states, these men and women are now in one of the most religious, and many of them have embraced the Christian gospel with the fervor they once reserved for the North Korean leaders Kim Il Sung and his son, Kim Jong Il."

con'd at: NPR Bias: An Urban Myth?


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