what does this mean?

I agree that corporations should not be able to avoid taxes by those methods. But seriously, what do you mean by the above statement?



you do realize this is socialism RIGHT? What money was taken from you W2S? I earned what I worked for. Nobody took my money. I spent it as I so choose. If something was too expensive, I moved on...it was a choice.

Anyone who thinks any corporation pays taxes is sadly mistaken.
The consumer pays the taxes for them.
Raise the corporate taxes, the cost gets passed onto the consumer.
Economics and Business Management 101.

It's all a feel good campaign to buy votes from the masses that think they're suppressed financially.
Rather than products of their own poor financial and social decisions.

Define "middle class".

But you won't do that by punishing the overachievers. Wealth redistribution ploys [government greed and avarice] never work. When you punish someone they either stop doing the activity that brought on the punishment or they make themselves unavailable for punishment. Anyone who has ever read a history book knows that communism was a huge failure.

Punishing corporations and businesses and wealthy ppl only encourages them to make themselves unavailable to be FLEECED by greedy politicians.

Wealth redistribution is nothing more than FLAGRANT GREED on the part of politicians who want to confiscate the wealth of those who earned it to buy votes. There is nothing "compassionate" about confiscating the wealth of free citizens for your own charitable goals. That is evil.

No government has ever taxed its way to prosperity, so this is a failed notion from the start. The greatest increases in government revenue came from TAX CUTS across the board, not from increasing taxes.

Elevate to what?

Isn't it a classic American ideal to be given the opportunity to raise ourselves up by the merits of our OWN efforts?

It means what it says, we start with corporations and move down the line. If it means balancing taxes to a point which keeps the economy expanding, then that's what we have to do.

Want2Stay

Pep,

Agreed Pep, but that is not possible with stagnant wages that do not even keep pace with inflation let alone rising health care costs.

Want2Stay

You better care. If the faceless people around the world, especially in China, call in all your debts, your proverbial flying turd will hit the fan and the American empire will come crashing down.

I say we start with GOVERNMENT GREED and hold them accountable. Leave our private citizens alone and get the government pigs away from the trough. Corporations contribute to the economy in a good way, corrupt politicians suck it dry. We need to remove the pigs from the trough and stop the government GREED. That is how the economy will be recovered. Communism failed.

Closing loopholes in the tax code and actually forcing corporations to pay their taxes would help trmendously. Right now most of them pay a smaller percentage than I do.

You got your talking points wrong, Mel. The theme of the day is "WALL STREET Greed". Didn't McCain pound that into your head enough?



Yeah, which is why AIG spent $400K of taxpayer money for an offsite to celebrate their bailout. I guess that did contribute to the economy of the resort... :RollieEyes:

AGG

So, what exactly are you advocating? Are you saying that "someone else" should pay for middle class health care?

Who?

I know something about health care and the reason for rising costs of health care ... tort reform - tort reform - tort reform !

I think the greater threat here is GOVERNMENT pigs at the trough who have great greed for other peoples money. They need to be limited first. We see the the horrendous damage caused by greedy pig democrats in this mortgage meltdown. Limits need to be placed on them FIRST because they are clearly the greater threat. They need to put on trial and brought to justice the same as Ken Lay of Enron.

Don't forget that those guys only went to the resort because they were given the chance to earn a living by that philanthropic entity, AIG.

What is wrong with everyone being taxed the same regardless of income or social status, etc.

What about 10%(or whatever) tax across the board, that way we ALL pay our fair share? This should apply to EVERYONE!

Do you really think that by over-taxing those over $250k and corporations, etc that it will solve the problem?

I think some sort of flat tax is a good idea, but it won't happen.

Corporations use CPAs and loopholes to get out of paying anywhere near the McCain-advertised corporate tax rate of 35%.

With a flat tax, no more loopholes for anyone.

Again, corporations do not pay taxes.
Any taxes.
Their customers pay the taxes for them.
Why does anyone want to punish the consumer any more?

Business management 101.

I agree, but that will never happen until there is a serious tax revolt in this country. The greedy government is never going to give up the $$$$.

How did this thread go from Colin Powell to taxes?

Of course, the Republicans had nothing to do with the current crisis... Keep telling yourself that...

AGG

Of course . They went there to stimulate the economy!

AGG