And, maybe this Civilian Security Force is a warning/threat to conservatives to keep their mouths shut.

And, I would still like to see Obama's REAL birth certificate, since the one his campaign posted was obviously (for several reasons) a fake!

A "bunch of college age kids in the Peace Corp and/or AmeriCorp" are not what I would consider a "SECURITY FORCE", which is what Obama said it would be.

Here's Rahm Emanuel talking about compulsory civil defense service

I wonder if this is what Michelle was talking about when she said this..

"Barack Obama will REQUIRE you to work. He is going to DEMAND that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. Barack will NEVER ALLOW you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved, uninformed."

Or is there more to come than the CSF?

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And why has Obama not made his university records or thesis work widely available?"

Wow.

I think they had common experiences in Nazi Germany too.

Wow.

I cannot begin to tell you how much this man scares the crap out of me.

We don't know who he REALLY is...

even Charlie Rose and Tom Brokaw admitted they don't know who he is.

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And Newsweek’s Evan Thomas said "There is a slightly creepy cult of personality about all of this."

And he said... "He's a -- I think, a deeply manipulative guy..."

Later, all three marveled about how it was "amazing" that Obama "watches us watching him."

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But, they never bothered to find out who he was, or express their unease w/ him BEFORE the election.

More democrat cheating, I see.

Funny how when there are recounts, more votes come out disproportionately in favor of the dems.

I'm sure the obtuseness will continue on the liberal side for the destruction of our nation at any cost.

Author- PGonz

Debbie, thank you for being the first writer to inject some sense into this mess. When I saw the article, I was afraid this would happen all over the Vine. I'm just trying to figure out who really wants America to fall; you know, "divided we fall"... ? And so many issues that are published lately just serve to divide us.

Now listen. We all agree that we need the best homeland security. Right? We all agree that our resources are stretched, considering the two fronts and other military requirements in the world. Right? And we all agree that the demands on civilian police forces are very high. Right?

One of the reasons we helped win WWII was the formation of Civil Defense. There may be a lot of people who are not aware of this phenomenon - and a real phenomenon it was! - that was essentially neighbors helping neighbors to help America win. It is significant, and not accidental, that there is a Civil Defense Museum. We have mothballed one of the most effective, democratic, and unifying programs that ever existed in our country.

But there are oligarchs in the U.S. who would not like the citizenry to have too much power. Well, sorry. America is a nation founded on the power of each citizen. The irony here is the ordinary citizens who defend their own oppression. President-elect Obama is talking about handing over more power to us.

Let us remember that the power in the back office of President Bush's administration was founded on the principles of the Project for the New American Century. More to the point, it is clearly stated on their web site that they are an offshoot of the New Citizenship Project. Let us remember that the Bush administration and the neo-conservative right have been very vocal in pushing the Unitary Executive Theory.at every turn. Even Governor Sarah Palin was instructed to push concepts that would serve to expand the power of the Executive Branch, which means taking power away from you: the American Citizen.

Sorry this is such a long post, but you guys are worth it.

Just look at it. President-elect Obama has shown a clear record of public service for the good of the majority of citizens. His statements about civilian security should be understod in light of the Civil Defense concept.

On the other hand, the esteemed congressman from Georgia is part of a neo-conservative Republican Party that has spent many years building upon principles that remove you and me from the power equation, handing more power to fewer people. Simple ideas. Please take some time to study them, and engage in some rational dialog here.

Rep. Paul Broun of the 10th Congressional District of Georgia (think Northeast rural Georgia and Appalachia) has actually tried to go mainstream with this stuff.

Nutty Georgia Congressman goes Nazi Berzerrkkk

Just as we must value and encourage military service across our society, we must honor and expand other opportunities to serve. Because the future of our nation depends on the soldier at Fort Carson, but it also depends on the teacher in East LA, or the nurse in Appalachia, the after-school worker in New Orleans, the Peace Corps volunteer in Africa, the Foreign Service officer in Indonesia. . . .

Today, AmeriCorps – our nation’s network of local, state and national service programs – has 75,000 slots. And I know firsthand the quality of these programs. My wife Michelle once left her job at a law firm at city hall to be a founding director of an AmeriCorps program in Chicago that trains young people for careers in public service. These programs invest Americans in their communities and their country. They tap America’s greatest resource – our citizens.

That’s why as President, I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots, and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their efforts connected to a common purpose. People of all ages, stations, and skills will be asked to serve. Because when it comes to the challenges we face, the American people are not the problem – they are the answer.

So we are going to send more college graduates to teach and mentor our young people. We’ll call on Americans to join an Energy Corps to conduct renewable energy and environmental cleanup projects in their neighborhoods all across the country. We will enlist our veterans to find jobs and support for other vets, to be there for our military families. And we’re going to grow our Foreign Service, open consulates that have been shuttered, and double the size of Peace Corps by 2011 to renew our diplomacy.

We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.