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Hal Turner sounds like a fruit cake. So when the dollar is not recognized as currency does that mean I don't have to pay any more of my outstanding debts since they are all in dollars and therefore the obligation is null and void?
BW - me exWH - serial cheater 2 awesome kids Divorced 12/2011
Many a good man has failed because he had a wishbone where his backbone should have been.
We gain strength, and courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... we must do that which we think we cannot. --------Eleanor Roosevelt
I have to say you guys. I don't know how far off this guy is. I read this article today and I am getting even more afraid. Reading this it sounds an awful lot like what this guy was saying. Read this article and watch the zeitgeist give your opinions.
I don't know how true any of this stuff is but I can say it is freaking me out. The whole issue with the federal reserve, the Bush family being involved in what seems to be both of our major economical collapses. Does anyone think this man may be hitting on something? If not please give me some reasons not to worry. I really need reassurance right now. With all these stores closing, the banks failing, and the jobless rate soaring. I don't know about anyone else but I am freaking. It is not just new businesses. American express for God's sake is having issues. Even Home Depot is closing stores. They just built a new Circuit City here about 6 months ago and they are closing it. The housing market sucks. I mean I am even scared to see what the houses in our neighborhood are selling for. They had a few families that sold for a loss and had to bring like 50 grand to closing. Why is our great Nation doing so bad? When are things going to turn around? I don't know about anyone else but I can imagine Obama is under a great deal of stress. He basically got handed over a sinking ship and the only thing he has to bailout the water is teacups.
Me (32) H (33) 3 DD's 9,8,2 1 DS 4 Married 4/19/99
According to Mrs. W I am now Delightful in GA. LOL
With all these stores closing, the banks failing, and the jobless rate soaring. I don't know about anyone else but I am freaking. It is not just new businesses. American express for God's sake is having issues. Even Home Depot is closing stores. They just built a new Circuit City here about 6 months ago and they are closing it.
On to Circuit City.....I live in Richmond, Corp headquarters to CC. Circuit City has NEVER been a finacially sound company as far back as I can remember and I"m in my 40's.
They are CONSTANTLY laying off, then hiring, then laying off, then hiring. It's a joke here. They layoff at least once a year.
The housing market sucks. I mean I am even scared to see what the houses in our neighborhood are selling for. They had a few families that sold for a loss and had to bring like 50 grand to closing. Why is our great Nation doing so bad? When are things going to turn around? I don't know about anyone else but I can imagine Obama is under a great deal of stress. He basically got handed over a sinking ship and the only thing he has to bailout the water is teacups.
Obama didn't get handed a sinking ship or anything thing else for that matter......He asked the USA to GIVE it to him, which is what we did. If he didn't know the state of affairs, what was going on with the economy etc, of this country then he shouldn't have run for the highest office in the land telling the american people that he was going to CHANGE everything. Going to make things better. What is happening in this country started long before Obama was given the nomination by the DNC. He should know what he's getting and if he doesn't, we're ALL in for a very bumpy ride.
Want to know what 'scares' me? This country has elected a JR Senator as it's president. One with Hardly NO EXPERIENCE. SO who do you really think is going to run this country?
Me46 FWH42 Married 19 yrs EA 4/07 - 4/08 (Confirmed by polygraph that it had not gone PA) Dday1 4/13/08 Dday2 8/8/08 S26 S16 D10 Trying to Recover
A Junior Senator is a postivie in my book. The less connection (or time spent) in washington, the less likely to be in the pocketbook of Corporate America. Someone asked what is happening to this country. It is pure and simple. People have been buying things they can't afford and now it must stop. Sharper image, circuit city, lehman brothers, bear stearns, wachovia, coutrywide financial, and many more companies no longer exist. Guess what? Those companies were weak and failed. Look at Wal-Mart, McDondalds, Kellog, General Mills, Heinz. These companies will benefit tremendously from consolidation. If the dollar becomes worthless, your debt will be forgiven. But you better have some guns and ammo to protect your property, food, posessions, etc. But what good is a car if you can't buy parts or gas. If the dollar becomes worthless, it will be because a catastrophe (like nuclear war or asteroid hitting earth) has wiped humans off the face of the planet. We have led the world the past hundred years. Where were TVs, VCRs, computers, cars, airplanes, cell phones, ipods invented. Sure Japan and China produce more cheaply, but what have they ever invented?
JFK was a Junior Senator when he was elected...
Me: 32 BS DDay: 9/14/08 Slowly coming to the realization that I am one of those who can't get past it.
I have to say you guys. I don't know how far off this guy is. I read this article today and I am getting even more afraid. Reading this it sounds an awful lot like what this guy was saying. Read this article and watch the zeitgeist give your opinions.
There would be civil unrest to the nth degree if people lost everything. There would be choas and the police and/or military isn't going to give a crap if they aren't getting paid to perform their job. It would be a complete free for all and people would be armming themselves up to their eyeballs. Just don't see it.
BW - me exWH - serial cheater 2 awesome kids Divorced 12/2011
Many a good man has failed because he had a wishbone where his backbone should have been.
We gain strength, and courage, and confidence by each experience in which we really stop to look fear in the face... we must do that which we think we cannot. --------Eleanor Roosevelt
and the only reason he is held up to such high praise is the horrible way in which he died.
I was not alive yet I remember him for more than that. What about him winning a Pulitzer? Not to mention his handling of the bay of pigs, the cuban missile crisis, the civil rights movement. I hate to say it, but if that would have been a Bush, we would have been at war. What about bringing the country together. He "spoke of the need for all Americans to be active citizens, famously saying, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." He also asked the nations of the world to join together to fight what he called the "common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself." In closing, he expanded on his desire for greater internationalism: "Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you." (Wikipedia)
Me: 32 BS DDay: 9/14/08 Slowly coming to the realization that I am one of those who can't get past it.
Oh please. Obama is infinitely more aware of America's problems than you and I are.
The DNC didn't "give" him anything. He earned it, the same as McCain earned his nomination.
Oh no! A Junior Senator?! We're all gonna die!
Do you honestly think he could more ignorant, inept, or more corrupt than George W. Bush?
Given his intelligence level, that's almost impossible.
Is that right .....your boy Obama doesn't know 90% of what he SHOULD KNOW.
You can spin things as much as you want. You are a typical LIBERAL finger pointer. GWB was NO worse than your boy "Bubba" Clinton, but you liberals can't take your blinders off long even to see that.
Do you honestly think that the problems in this country STARTED with the Bush Administration??? That only 8 years facilitated the problems in this country. You're giving a LOT OF CREDIT to someone that you think is worthless.
Clinton and his croonies in Washington are just as much to blame for our problems.....whether you want to admit it or not.
YES JR SENATOR......HE HAS NO EXPERIENCE for the job. Just want we need.....
You may be OK with that....I'm not! Nor are a lot of others.
Me46 FWH42 Married 19 yrs EA 4/07 - 4/08 (Confirmed by polygraph that it had not gone PA) Dday1 4/13/08 Dday2 8/8/08 S26 S16 D10 Trying to Recover
Bay of Pigs was a disaster. There was zero choice as to how to handle the Cuban Missle Crisis...Russia could not be permitted to put missles there...everyone knew that.
Kennedy signed ZERO laws regarding civil rights. In 1957 John Kennedy voted AGAINST civil rights legislation.
and the only reason he is held up to such high praise is the horrible way in which he died.
I was not alive yet I remember him for more than that. What about him winning a Pulitzer? Not to mention his handling of the bay of pigs, the cuban missile crisis, the civil rights movement. I hate to say it, but if that would have been a Bush, we would have been at war. What about bringing the country together. He "spoke of the need for all Americans to be active citizens, famously saying, "Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." He also asked the nations of the world to join together to fight what he called the "common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself." In closing, he expanded on his desire for greater internationalism: "Finally, whether you are citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you." (Wikipedia)
I agree with Medc....JFK was in office for about 2 years before he died. I wonder, if he was still alive, if he'd want to be remembered for the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis.
The Bay of Pigs Invasion was an unsuccessful attempt by a U.S.-trained force of Cuban exiles to invade south-west Cuba and overthrow the Cuban government of Fidel Castro. The invasion — planned and funded by the United States government was launched in April 1961. The Cuban military defeated the invading force in a matter of days and the event accelerated a rapid deterioration in Cuban-American relations, which was further worsened by the Cuban Missile Crisis the following year The invasion is named after the Bay of Pigs, inaccurately translated from the Spanish Bahía de Cochinos, the landing having taken place at the beach named Playa Girón.
Kennedy, in his first public speech on the crisis, given on October 22 1962, gave the key warning,
It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union.[6]
Let's see...Kennedy TOLD the U.S. people that he didn't care if the missile was fired at us or not, he was going to treat Cuba like it was and go AFTER the Soviet Union.....
Me46 FWH42 Married 19 yrs EA 4/07 - 4/08 (Confirmed by polygraph that it had not gone PA) Dday1 4/13/08 Dday2 8/8/08 S26 S16 D10 Trying to Recover