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This is an open thread, LG!! We are allowing MEN, YANKEES and even silly foreigners! 
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Women like sensual. Groping isn't sensual...
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Well, I ask my wife who should I be doing "any activity" with if you don't want me to do it with you. Would you prefer he was getting his grope fill elsewhere?
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What, pray tell, is a "grope fill?" Or did you mean grope FEEL ? 
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NJ, Well, I ask my wife who should I be doing "any activity" with if you don't want me to do it with you. Would you prefer he was getting his grope fill elsewhere?
NJ It is apparent that you ave not read LB's or you would not have made such a comment. And that was not the question. It is WHY do men grope. Not, if you don't want H to grope you, can he grope someone else? Geesh, I give up with you.
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Is it groping if it's done during sex? Or is groping defined to be grabbing suddenly when it's not a sexual context for the other person?
Kind of reminds me of an old SNL skit where the creepy guy at the office asks a woman for a date, and she picks up the phone and reports him to HR. And then a handsome guy comes by and asks her the exact same question and she is thrilled.
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BMU,
OK then we grope as a form of quick thrill and a reassurance of our affection for our wives.
It is apparent that you ave not read LB's or you would not have made such a comment.
No actually I have and it has been very helpful in my relationship, my wife was shocked, but I doubt she takes all that I say very seriously.
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BMU,
OK then we grope as a form of quick thrill and a reassurance of our affection for our wives. Maybe your wife takes it as a reassurance of affection, but I don't. Being PAWED and man handled is not my idea of affection. It is not reassuring, it is irritating.
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It has the same "feel", if you'll pardon the expression, as a man talking to a woman's cleavage instead of looking in her face. Very de-personalizing. I am a whole person, not a set of secondary sex characteristics with a woman accidentally attached.
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NJ, BMU,
OK then we grope as a form of quick thrill and a reassurance of our affection for our wives. I am assuming you mean "you grope" not "we" as in all men.
No actually I have and it has been very helpful in my relationship, my wife was shocked, but I doubt she takes all that I say very seriously.
NJ Ok, so YOU grope your wife for a quick thrill and a reassurance of affection, and she apparently is ok with that. But be careful making a sweeping generalization that all men feel the same way. I say this because you used the word WE instead of I. Not all men feel this way, nor do all women hate being groped. Need to be careful about answering for others. Beam
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Seems groping might be in their jeans genes!
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Seems groping might be in their jeans genes! 
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Men grope because their logic is all out of whack.
SOME men tend to think that just because they like something, their wives should like it, too. Their logic is that if their wives grope them, they are usually instantly ready for SF; therefore, they think that if they grope their wives, their wives will be instantly ready for SF.
Um...it doesn't work that way!
Playful and mutual groping CAN be fun, but when I'm bending over, taking a hot dish out of the oven, I do NOT want somebody sneaking up behind me and groping my patootie!
And, when there is little or no romance or tender affection from the husband, groping can tend to feel like a selfish demand for SF, and it also makes the wife feel like a ho.
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Could be a primitive reflex on our MY part, kinda like a baboon checking for perineal swelling.
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Could be a primitive reflex on our MY part, kinda like a baboon checking for perineal swelling.
NJ I think this New Jersey Groper said a butt word!! 
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Can someone define what is a grope as compared to an affectionate caress?
And can someone stop changing thread names? I almost lost this one!
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A grope is walking up behind a woman and grabbing the merchandise to cop a feel. It is not romantic or affectionate. And I believe I have a title changing entitlement, thankyewverymuch. 
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I suppose, ML, that it beats the male dog equivalent behavior--they COULD pee on us to mark their territory! :RollieEyes:
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this is true, t&l
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