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#2163907 11/25/08 01:50 PM
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We always seem to be in different channels.

Tonight, she made dinner, but take almost everything and left me very little. As I was sad because some other problems, she told me: "Oh, you're angry because I left you very few food, I'll give you some, so you don't say I don't make you dinner". She always says things like this, as if all she did were so others don't say anything about her.

She also always says I'm angry when I'm sad, or even when she is angry!. Many times after a discussion she asks why I was angry, when in my opinion she started and looked for the fight.

Thanks for your comments.


We: 35yo physicians, two children 10 and 4.
OM: 55yo married supervisor of my wife, repeating cheater.
DDay: 29Oct08 Exposure1Dec08
She's not sure if she wants R.
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Read up on "projection" in the context of how a personality disordered person deals with their internal feelings. Infidelity is rampant among the disordered and many WS's, while not disoredred, act as such while dealing with their guilt.

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It sounds like she has resentment built up towards you and is either trying to punish you or control you into behaving how she wants you to behave. What is the history here or is there a link to your story?



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DS 16 - DD 13
H EA August 2007
"Anger makes you smaller, while forgiveness forces you to grow beyond what you were." Cherie Carter
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Long story follows:

We're both 35yo. A 10yo daughter and a 4yo son. Several problems after the boy was born, because I didn't accepted him very well (now I see I was both jealous and unconfident I could be a good father) and we suffered serious economical problems. I developed and told her about sexual fantasies of infidelity, and she accepted them. However the fantasies became more and more real, and then I became jealous and soon discovered she had a virtual sexual friend. We argued, and she promised to stop talking, but still contacted him every several months via cellular messages. Then she became "in love" with some coworker, but she promised to keep faithful and I believed her when she told me nothing really happened, this relationship has been fading. She said she felt I didn't care for her, and she felt alone. After increasingly worst fights, I asked if she had been unfaithful and she confessed a supposedly one-time sexual encounter with another coworker, who "supports her, cares about her, and protects her". She recently realized this 55yo married man physically looks like her father. As a side note, she has a sad infancy story, always alone, having to fight against poverty and a medicine career, poor support from her father, her mother died when she was 10yo (by the way, our problems increased when she reached her mothers age at dying, as she started to think she shoul do more "things" before dying), there are clues which make me suspect a sexual abuse in her infancy, and her loved stepmother died about one month ago (it seems that just before she cheated). To make the matters worst, it seems her stepmother somehow believed my wife was a victim of intrafamiliar violence (just as my stepmother was, by the way), and told her very bad things about me just before dying, including: "don't stay in a nonfuture relationship as I did". I can't understand how my wife is very resentful with me for this, even when she knows better than anyone I never were violent with her (in fact, sometimes I believed she was psychologically violent with me, telling me deceptive things and making me feel as a nonvaluable person). I always thought we (my stepmther and I) had a very good relationship!, this came as a total surprise.

My wife accepted MC (one session already) and IC. She was diagnosed a long time (about 30 years??) distimic disease complicated with major depression and started strong medical therapy (the phychiatrist thinks it will take 2-5 years of treatment)

I love her, don't want to lose her, but still I don't want her to cheat me (¿again?/¿still?). She says it was a one-time sexual encounter, and that she hasn't talked with this man since then (except a short telephone call some weeks ago). Still, they work in the same building, and she doesn't want to change jobs because she recently was offered a very good opportunity to grow. When we fight, sometimes she talks about going with him as an option.

I'm very confused. I really don't have any clue about this affair except for her words. Maybe it is over, maybe it isn't. She doesn't want to talk about this, and I'm waiting for the MC sessions for this. Of course I doubt of every man we know or works with her.

I don't know if I should hire a private investigator to assure the affair is indeed over. I don't know if I shouldn't press her too much because of her mental illness and recent therapy. I don't know how can I trust her, but I don't want to lose our marriage since I really love her frown

I'm a nerd, introvert and shy pediatrician. I love my children, don't mind about home labors (I cared my daughter from 0 to 3 yo while my wife studied in another city, and I was so happy), and work about 90-100 hours a week. I have very few friends and just one really good friend. I have been diagnosed with an obsessive-compulsive personality (but not an OC disorder), with some masochistic aspects, and I'm taking psychoanalysis therapy.

Just to share another person's point of view, my best friend tells me my wife considers me as unconditional, and has even told me to consider another relationship (she later apologized for this, she says she was very angry with my wife)


We: 35yo physicians, two children 10 and 4.
OM: 55yo married supervisor of my wife, repeating cheater.
DDay: 29Oct08 Exposure1Dec08
She's not sure if she wants R.
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 63
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I know the OM is his boss. I talked with her friends asking for advice. They of course say they support her in whichever decision she takes, but I believe they support our marriage. The OM is known for several previous affairs, and supposedly in MC with his wife. I also talked with a lawyer to known my rights. He adviced me to wait for my sentiments to settle, to work in my relationship with my children, to go ahead with the intents to heal our marriage. I should confess I didn't expect such a humanly legal advice.

My wife and I talked, she says she had a few days relationship with him, but the fact is she called him when I told her I knew. Besides, she confess to miss him very much, and she sees him daily in her job, as expected.

She asked me to go with her to her job as frequently as possible, agreed to change her phone number, has a pending change to another job place, and says she'll not talk to him except for job issues. However, she isn't sure she could stay without him, misses him, and says she doesn't love me anymore, and only stays due to our children. I maybe blind, but I believe she still has some sentment towards me, because she does things, like my buying my favorite dinner, etc. I don't know.

We agreed to try to save our marriage, she'll not look for him and I'll not remember her the affair asking so much questions as I do now. We will take soon a trip to USA to see her brothers (I'll look closely for my children' passports, I'm very paranoid), and we'll move to our new home in some months.

I really have hopes to save our marriages, but I have many doubts, maybe I'm in a lost fight.


We: 35yo physicians, two children 10 and 4.
OM: 55yo married supervisor of my wife, repeating cheater.
DDay: 29Oct08 Exposure1Dec08
She's not sure if she wants R.

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