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#2163958 11/25/08 03:11 PM
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Even though throughout all our problems, and the fact that I have pushed and pushed to get help with counsellors etc... all the pain she directly causes me, she is still somehow able to sit back and wait for me to "cool off" and just get over it.

here I am , planning on going home to discuss separation arrangements, and I know she is going to flip and attempt to kick me out, and then she is going to seek comfort from her family and friends to which Im sure she has already manipulated in to beleive that she was done no wrong,

and here I sit AFRAID!


why!??!?!?!??!


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BH(me) 32
WW 31
Dday - EA/email fling june 2006
NC letter June 06
Dday 2-3-4 july-Nov 06
Dday 5 oct 08
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Originally Posted by langaan
and here I sit AFRAID!


why!??!?!?!??!

my guess is this, you've been dealing with a mentally ill spouse and you KNOW from EXPERIENCE how out of control she can get

.... am I right?

Pepperband #2163963 11/25/08 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pepperband
Originally Posted by langaan
and here I sit AFRAID!


why!??!?!?!??!

my guess is this, you've been dealing with a mentally ill spouse and you KNOW from EXPERIENCE how out of control she can get

.... am I right?

100%
that and im afraid of losing her


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langaan #2163969 11/25/08 03:30 PM
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here is a notable post by Star*fish:

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It is the fear that paralyzes you, sends blood rushing through your veins, sours your stomach, and interupts your sleep. It is the fear that gives away your power, your hope, and your forgiveness. It is fear that robs you of the active self and traps you in the role of patronizing enabler who will take them back at ANY cost...even if the price is too high. It is fear that keeps you from confronting and exposing. And fear that prevents you from enforcing your boundaries and having compassion for yourself.

Fear of abandonment.
Fear of rejection.
Fear of reaction....yours, theirs.
Fear of future...the unknown.
Fear of destitution and want.
Fear of failure.
Fear of losing.
Fear of loss.
Fear of solitude.
Fear of settling.
Fear of change.
Fear of lack of change.
Fear
Fear

Infidelity creates FEAR....and fear is crippling. Research shows us what we already know in our hearts....when we are fearful....we are unable to fire up the parts of our brains that "process" information on a logical, rational, spirtual level and create solutions that increase the odds for success in crises. When we are fearful....we don't use our neocortex....but instead, it is our limpic system which lights up our MRIs....our animal brains wired for "fight or flight".

There is no HOPE in our animal brains....because our indentity, our souls, our compassion....don't reside there. You are only capable of conflict or escape when you are there....so you must find a quiet place to deal with your fears so that you can confront, expose, do all the things that overcoming infidelity entails....all the things that happiness entails. You must value yourself as well as protect yourself, without fear of losing your WS or enforcing boundaries.....because if you don't....all your fears will be realized anyway.

MB is not designed to trap you in a marriage where your feelings are crushed and disrespected or the vows of marriage are meaningless. It's designed to help you overcome fear and give you hope that marriages CAN recover from infidelity....but you must be brave and be willing to risk losing your WS in order to regain trust, fidelity, security.

You must be willing to see beyond your pain and take logical and systematic steps to undermine the affair and increase the stability and security of your marriage. That takes courage above pain. It takes the peacefulness of knowing you are strong enough to lose a self indulgent and unrepentant spouse or recover with a flawed, but motivated one.

Don't let your fear take back a spouse who isn't ready to do the hard work recovery after infidelity entails. It is an invitation for misery.

If you don't believe you CAN survive without your WS....you cannot do what you must do to ensure success.

Stop being fearful of their threats...they are just excuses to leave or be selfish.

Stop being fearful of their reactions....their reactions arise from their guilt...not your boundaries.

Stop being fearful of taking a stand....it's the only way to gain respect or trust.

Stop being fearful of being alone.....until you can stand on your own and risk losing them, you will NEVER know if they remain with you by choice. And you will never know if you want them or you NEED them.

And if you need them....even if they return....you are in trouble chere.

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Thank you pepper.


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langaan #2163982 11/25/08 03:48 PM
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i keep asking myself now that the reality of what I am about to do keeps sinking in deeper and deeper, and that question is
"If I am anticipating just as much pain through separation as I am if I were to stick around and keep putting up with this, why have I chosen the path to separate?"

only now, 10 minutes ago did the answer become clear. "There is only light at the end of one of those tunnels"


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WW 31
Dday - EA/email fling june 2006
NC letter June 06
Dday 2-3-4 july-Nov 06
Dday 5 oct 08
langaan #2164018 11/25/08 05:01 PM
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Langaan,

""only now, 10 minutes ago did the answer become clear. "There is only light at the end of one of those tunnels""

And this tunnel is much shorter, my friend.


CORDUROY PILLOWS ARE MAKING HEADLINES!!
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Originally Posted by langaan
Thank you pepper.

You're most welcome :happythanksgiving:

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Originally Posted by langaan
only now, 10 minutes ago did the answer become clear. "There is only light at the end of one of those tunnels"


Tunnel Song

On my first D-day, I was driving around at 2 a.m. crying out to God to "give me something to hold on to." I turned on my radio and this song was just beginning.


Happily married to HerPapaBear




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