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Well tough guy? We know you can talk the talk but have you walked the walk?


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Originally Posted by myfamilyilove
Well tough guy? We know you can talk the talk but have you walked the walk?

His GF was sent an email today.


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Good on ya Jim!


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Awesome!

Let the fireworks begin.



Divorced on 3/25/2008 but I have primary legal and physical custody of my 2 kids.

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I finally got a response today from FOM's GF:

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Hi Jim,

I appreciate your email and I would have written earlier but I rarely check my myspace page and only did out of boredom at work today. I am Phil's girlfriend and we have been together for nearly two years now. I empathize with you and I completely understand your frustration and anger with Phil and what happened a few years ago. It must have been a terrible time for you and I am sure that it sucks to feel that the past is coming up again. I want to assure you that what Phil and FWW had in the past is definitely in the past and I have known the entire situation from the beginning. We have an extremely open and though you may not believe it from your experience with him, but also honest relationship.

I set up Phil's facebook page a few weeks ago and being the typcial girl, I was looking for his old girlfriends and friends on there. I had never seen a picture of FWW so of course I was curious. When I found her, I asked Phil if he wanted to friend her and he told me that it may be weird because he doesn't talk to her anymore, but I could if I wanted to. So, me being an idiot and not thinking about how that may look to you and FWW or affect you negatively, I did. I am wholeheartedly sorry for bringing up the past when it didn't have to be and for disrespecting your agreement with him. I promise that we will never try to contact you or FWW again and we only wish the best for the two of you. We truly do.

Kind regards,
Julie

What a dope.


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Sheesh! She's nuttier than a Snickers bar Jim! crazy

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Originally Posted by MrsWondering
Sheesh! She's nuttier than a Snickers bar Jim! crazy

Mrs. W

Young people these days have no concept of right and wrong. Society has taught them that everything is grey and taking a black and white stance is "judgmental" and not very progressive or enlightened. We all make mistakes, so people should be given a free pass. It makes me sick.

I was at the mall on Sunday, and it disgusts me how many 12-year-olds are there by themselves looking like punk rocker groupies texting away on their i-phones. We are in another period of moral decline just like the 60's again (not that I was alive then). On top of that, the immoral, irresponsible segment of society is reproducing 2-3 times faster than decent people. The country will soon be overrun with these people in control of the country. It makes me sick.


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lol...you're only 28 <snicker>

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Hi Jim,

I appreciate your email and I would have written earlier but I rarely check my myspace page and only did out of boredom at work today. I am Phil's girlfriend and we have been together for nearly two years now. I empathize with you and I completely understand your frustration and anger with Phil and what happened a few years ago. It must have been a terrible time for you and I am sure that it sucks to feel that the past is coming up again. I want to assure you that what Phil and FWW had in the past is definitely in the past and I have known the entire situation from the beginning. We have an extremely open and though you may not believe it from your experience with him, but also honest relationship.

I set up Phil's facebook page a few weeks ago and being the typcial girl, I was looking for his old girlfriends and friends on there. I had never seen a picture of FWW so of course I was curious. When I found her, I asked Phil if he wanted to friend her and he told me that it may be weird because he doesn't talk to her anymore, but I could if I wanted to. So, me being an idiot and not thinking about how that may look to you and FWW or affect you negatively, I did. I am wholeheartedly sorry for bringing up the past when it didn't have to be and for disrespecting your agreement with him. I promise that we will never try to contact you or FWW again and we only wish the best for the two of you. We truly do.

Kind regards,
Julie

it sounds genuine and thoughtful to me.

every generation thinks the latest one is the worst....in fact Jim, it is the current crop of 20-30 year old's that I fear will do the most damage to this country.

I think you should start examining why you are so unhappy in your marriage...and why you have decided to stay despite this level of unhappiness.


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Originally Posted by medc
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Hi Jim,

I appreciate your email and I would have written earlier but I rarely check my myspace page and only did out of boredom at work today. I am Phil's girlfriend and we have been together for nearly two years now. I empathize with you and I completely understand your frustration and anger with Phil and what happened a few years ago. It must have been a terrible time for you and I am sure that it sucks to feel that the past is coming up again. I want to assure you that what Phil and FWW had in the past is definitely in the past and I have known the entire situation from the beginning. We have an extremely open and though you may not believe it from your experience with him, but also honest relationship.

I set up Phil's facebook page a few weeks ago and being the typcial girl, I was looking for his old girlfriends and friends on there. I had never seen a picture of FWW so of course I was curious. When I found her, I asked Phil if he wanted to friend her and he told me that it may be weird because he doesn't talk to her anymore, but I could if I wanted to. So, me being an idiot and not thinking about how that may look to you and FWW or affect you negatively, I did. I am wholeheartedly sorry for bringing up the past when it didn't have to be and for disrespecting your agreement with him. I promise that we will never try to contact you or FWW again and we only wish the best for the two of you. We truly do.

Kind regards,
Julie

it sounds genuine and thoughtful to me.

every generation thinks the latest one is the worst....in fact Jim, it is the current crop of 20-30 year old's that I fear will do the most damage to this country.

I think you should start examining why you are so unhappy in your marriage...and why you have decided to stay despite this level of unhappiness.

I agree that it sounds genuine and thoughtful. However, I think she is a dope to think it was okay to try and make friends with the married woman her current boyfriend had an affair with. It never occurred to her. People just don't think that way anymore (not associating with married people of the opposite sex).

I agree with you about the 20-30 year olds, whenever I hang out with some my wife's friends from work, I can't help but think what dopes they are. With her one friend, you would swear the she just won the lottery when Obama was elected. She thinks that people like me should have to support those "less fortunate" (more irresposible). She doesn't realize that it will soon be about 10% of the population supporting the other 90% which is impossible.

As for my situation, it is currently being examined. While many other aspects of our relationship have improved, my wife is still sexually dysfunctional. I understand that she has intimacy issues from her own parent's marriage (they got her divorced, her mom was emotionally abusive, her dad took out the divorce on her mother and the kids by screwing them in the divorce. They all lived in a small town and her dad know the lawyers and judges so my FWW, her sister, and her mother lived in poverty from that point on). I don't know if she is scared or emotionally unable to get over her sexual issues, but she is aware that my sexual needs aren't going to be forgotten, so she needs to improve on that front or we will divorce sooner rather than later. We'll see if she can take the necessary steps.


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Hi Jim,

I like the sound of raising he!! with OM. Can you tell me a little about what you did to raise heck with OM? Did you confront him in person? I'd like to know more. I've had fantasies about what I'd like to do to my WW's OM... Maybe I shouldn't go there but I'd love to hear what you did!??!?


I am a 32 yr old betrayed husband.
My wayward wife is 31.
Married 3.5 years.
Found out about affair when it started around 10/1/08.
Affair started as emotional via internet, then went physical.
Wife moved out on 12/27/08.
I filed for legal separation to get visitation with my son--wife countered with big D but now says she is in no hurry to finalize the D??
Currently in Plan A.
3 yr-old son.
7 yr-old step son.
11 yr-old step daughter.
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Originally Posted by erichh
Hi Jim,

I like the sound of raising he!! with OM. Can you tell me a little about what you did to raise heck with OM? Did you confront him in person? I'd like to know more. I've had fantasies about what I'd like to do to my WW's OM... Maybe I shouldn't go there but I'd love to hear what you did!??!?

Why do you want do anything to your WW's OM (physically)? If anything start with your WW. Did your mother ever tell you that its a woman who sets the standard in a relationship


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Originally Posted by myfamilyilove
Originally Posted by erichh
Hi Jim,

I like the sound of raising he!! with OM. Can you tell me a little about what you did to raise heck with OM? Did you confront him in person? I'd like to know more. I've had fantasies about what I'd like to do to my WW's OM... Maybe I shouldn't go there but I'd love to hear what you did!??!?

Why do you want do anything to your WW's OM (physically)? If anything start with your WW. Did your mother ever tell you that its a woman who sets the standard in a relationship

It takes two to tango. I don't think that you can put more blame on one gender than the other.

This jerk has a mind of his own and he knows very well that it's wrong to break up another family.

But, I do put MOST the blame on my WW because she can be quite a seductress. Why are guys so gullible?

I happen to know that the OM was married to a woman that cheated on him. He has two kids from her. He ought to know better.


I am a 32 yr old betrayed husband.
My wayward wife is 31.
Married 3.5 years.
Found out about affair when it started around 10/1/08.
Affair started as emotional via internet, then went physical.
Wife moved out on 12/27/08.
I filed for legal separation to get visitation with my son--wife countered with big D but now says she is in no hurry to finalize the D??
Currently in Plan A.
3 yr-old son.
7 yr-old step son.
11 yr-old step daughter.
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Originally Posted by erichh
Hi Jim,

I like the sound of raising he!! with OM. Can you tell me a little about what you did to raise heck with OM? Did you confront him in person? I'd like to know more. I've had fantasies about what I'd like to do to my WW's OM... Maybe I shouldn't go there but I'd love to hear what you did!??!?

I basically search and called/emailed OM's family, friends, employer, etc., as much as possible to make him uncomfortable continuing contact w/ my WW. OM had already moved 1000 mi away by the time I confirmed the A, so he is lucky he didn't get his @ss kicked. I used to travel a lot for my job, and I knew someone at a plant by him that was a brawler and would kick his @ss for a case of beer, but I thought better of it. Instead, I just contacted his parents everytime he contacted my WW, and I contacted his current girlfriend this time. I had previously emailed all his myspace friends. I just basically wanted to harass him and make his life he11. At the time he was still 26, so he was still influenced by his parents (they helped support him) and he lived with his sister. I think I first contacted his parents right before he went home for Thanksgiving. His parents seemed like nice Catholics who paid a lot of money to send him to Catholic grade school, high school, and college, so they weren't pleased when they found out. The didn't believe me at first, so I fed-exed them my proof. He started backing off after that.


Jim

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Originally Posted by erichh
I happen to know that the OM was married to a woman that cheated on him. He has two kids from her. He ought to know better.

Honestly, that actually fuels their justification. Hey, it happened to him, so he's not sorry he's doing it to you. Hey, life ain't fair. He learned just like you will.

My FWW's OM actually told me when I confronted him that his live in girlfriend left him for another guy, it sucked, but you just deal with it. What a loser.


Jim

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One old poster here messed with OM in humerous ways

1. Went to the library and online and, over the course of several months, filled out about 200 magazine subscription cards for OM, including many racey ones of the homosexual persuasion.

2. Called 20 or so plumbers and electricians, posing as OM, scheduling work at OM's house when he knew OM would be home. Those guys want to get paid just for making a call.

3. Got 4 buddies to put on ski masks and approach OM walking down the street in a van with the license plate obscured. They opened the side door as they approached him and OM ran away frantically. They had no intention of apprehending OM or anything, actually one of his buddies videotaped it.

I don't think focusing on OM solely is productive but it IS often easier to get a single OM to dump a married woman by making her more trouble than she is worth. OM's get tired of having to watch over their shoulders all the time and they tire of the drama whereas wayward spouses thrive on it.

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Julie girl is one nut. Some how I find her story hard to believe. As if she told the OM how should I respond to you.

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