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OK all you helper bees out there. Help me with this one.
You know how the Bible says that a man and a woman become one flesh when they join sexually? Think about this. What about all the spiritual junk that may be in one person that gets transferred to the other person when they join as one? Our family and marriage pastor told my husband that we should abstain from sex because whatever bad spirits were in this woman with whom my husband had sex with could be transferred to me.
Since my husband has had sex with this woman he is just not the same anymore. He does not act the same and his face is visibly different. I don't know quite how to explain this, but I can actually see it. I truly wonder if this might be one of the reasons why affairs are hard to break off because spiritual junk gets inside them and they are controlled by it.
What do you all think about this?
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Your husband had an affair because he chose to. He did not respect you or love you and instead had sex with another woman. He did not care for you enough to keep it in his pants. That is it.
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OK all you helper bees out there. Help me with this one.
You know how the Bible says that a man and a woman become one flesh when they join sexually? Think about this. What about all the spiritual junk that may be in one person that gets transferred to the other person when they join as one? Our family and marriage pastor told my husband that we should abstain from sex because whatever bad spirits were in this woman with whom my husband had sex with could be transferred to me.
Since my husband has had sex with this woman he is just not the same anymore. He does not act the same and his face is visibly different. I don't know quite how to explain this, but I can actually see it. I truly wonder if this might be one of the reasons why affairs are hard to break off because spiritual junk gets inside them and they are controlled by it.
What do you all think about this?
Cindy That sounds plausible. Definitely. Charlotte
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OK all you helper bees out there. Help me with this one.
You know how the Bible says that a man and a woman become one flesh when they join sexually? Think about this. What about all the spiritual junk that may be in one person that gets transferred to the other person when they join as one? Our family and marriage pastor told my husband that we should abstain from sex because whatever bad spirits were in this woman with whom my husband had sex with could be transferred to me.
Since my husband has had sex with this woman he is just not the same anymore. He does not act the same and his face is visibly different. I don't know quite how to explain this, but I can actually see it. I truly wonder if this might be one of the reasons why affairs are hard to break off because spiritual junk gets inside them and they are controlled by it.
What do you all think about this?
Cindy I've never read something so ridiculus in my life. What kind f "church" preaches that garbage? There are many reasons why she should not have sex with an active WS but that "religious" sounding reason isn't one of them. WHat is the demonination? The "pastor" sounds like a witch doctor.
Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW) D-Day August 2005 Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23 Empty Nesters. Fully Recovered.
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Ummmmmm, what denomination is your pastor? Does he have a scripture reference for this? It does NOT sound plausible to me...
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Your husband sinned. By his sinning he came into agreement with the Father of Lies and gave demonic spirits legitimate right to oppress him and, because he is the head of your family, opened your family to them also.
He has opened himself to the spirits of lust, adultery , sexual immorality, lying, self gratification, to name a few.
Yes, the spiritual component of adultery needs to be dealt with.
It starts with true repentance.
Your husband must repentant of his adultery and renounce the accompanying spirits and cut them off and in the Name of Jesus and command them to go.
Inner healing, sozo ministries, deliverance, whatever is in your area and belief system need to be used to help heal your family from the affects of your husband's sin.
Your husband created a soul tie with his affair partner and that needs to be broken, renounced and cast off.
We all recognize the physical act of adultery as being wrong, but as Christians we cannot deny the spiritual impact as well.
We live in two realms, the seen, physical and the unseen spiritual. The spiritual realm is actually larger. It's impact is greater.
Adultery must be dealt with in the spiritual realm also.
Just ending the physical relationship does not end it.
Avoiding a physical relationship with your husband does not solve anything and is unbiblical.
Did your pastor offer any counsel beyond "don't have sex?"
BS -me 69 WS - him 68 Married 40 years OW - "daughter" added to family 1/05 for "Fathering healing" - 26 years younger EA 1/05 - 12/07 PA 8/07 - 12/07 NC 1/08 DDay March 30, 2008 Separation Feb. 17, 2010 two days before our 33 anniversary DDs 31, 25 WH served me for divorce Sept. 18, 2014
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Spirits ARE real. They are all around us all of the time. Good and bad.
The Catholic Church STILL performs exorcisms if a case warrants it.
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He has opened himself to the spirits of lust, adultery , sexual immorality, lying, self gratification, to name a few.
Yes, the spiritual component of adultery needs to be dealt with.
It starts with true repentance. I agree with this.
Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW) D-Day August 2005 Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23 Empty Nesters. Fully Recovered.
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I guess I have to agree with 77 and Dancing Machine. They said it much better than I could have.
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He has opened himself to the spirits of lust, adultery , sexual immorality, lying, self gratification, to name a few.
Yes, the spiritual component of adultery needs to be dealt with.
It starts with true repentance. I agree with this. Yes, me too... However, the "soul tie" thing between affair partners does throw me a bit...a touch "new agey" for my tastes... Mrs. W
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I looked into this as well. There is no scriptural reference for the whole 'soul tie' thing. You become one flesh when you enter into a holy, sanctified marriage before God. Satan has no power to grant a 'one flesh' relationship. Yes, he may have opened the door to additional demonic influence, but as a Christian YOU HAVE WEAPONS - YOU ARE NOT DEFENSELESS! 2 Corinthians 10 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
4 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;)
5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ... Prayer, study of the word, the power of the Holy Spirit, all will work for us to cast down everything that opposes Christ.
A smooth sea never made a skilled mariner. ~ English proverb Neak's Story
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So Neak, am I correct in thinking that repentance (completely changing one's mind and heart regarding the adultery), prayer and Bible study is enough? That the blood of Christ paid for this sin in full once the sinner has repented? No need for further "deliverance" or "casting out of demons"?
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Since my husband has had sex with this woman he is just not the same anymore. He does not act the same and his face is visibly different. I don't know quite how to explain this, but I can actually see it. He is not the same, he is a changed man at this point, he is having an A. The stress tension, guilt whatever you want to call it show on him, in his face and in his actions, they wear him down, much the way they are doing to you. Neither one of you are the same right now, and now more than ever you need to embrace your faith, and hope your WH can do the same, with faith he may find his way again.
Me BS (41) DD 10 DD 8 WW - The big D "Don't say sorry, just don't do it again"
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Our family and marriage pastor told my husband that we should abstain from sex because whatever bad spirits were in this woman with whom my husband had sex with could be transferred to me. Ya'know ... you just can't make this stuff up. What does the "pastor"  recommend as treatment for such a condition ... do you bleed him with leaches??? ... maybe you should wear a clove of garlic around your neck when you have sex??? ... sacrifice the OW??? ... hey, now we're getting some place!!! Seriously, this A stuff is hard enough anyway, without complicating matters with voodoo paranoia from some religious "quack". :crosseyedcrazy:
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Seriously, this A stuff is hard enough anyway, without complicating matters with voodoo paranoia from some religious "quack". Very well put.
Me BS (41) DD 10 DD 8 WW - The big D "Don't say sorry, just don't do it again"
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That's the oddest recommendation I've ever heard from a pastor. What scripture is he basing this off of? Because whatever it is, I can't find it in the bible.
Do some research in the bible on your own time and if it sounds questionnable, it's more than likely a twisted version of his own interpretation.
A good place to start is 1 Corinthians 6.
God bless....
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Ugh....this lack of edit feature just reveals how much of a dork I really am! i just re-read my post and what I MEANT to convey is that if she can't find his advice in there, that it's his twisted version.
Geez......I feel like I'm retelling a bad story.
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In addition to disease ... I wonder if condoms are also effective against the spread of "bad spirits"??? I can see the ad campaigns now for ... New "GARLIC TROJANS"!!! 
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Take that to the next level. There are lambskin condoms.  I'm gonna get beat up for that one. Feelin feisty today! 
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I can't even talk here....my exH found god with his OW and even HER pastor told him it was OK to leave his wife and child for her.....I lost a little bit of faith then.....but they are at a completely different church thank god....and I believe that church is a bit odd....nothing like the first church of sin on sunday.....wonder what tommarrows hyms will be.
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