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The murders you are talking about were not supported by the state. And yes, lots of pedophiles here. But again, not supported by the state.
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Abortion is not sanctioned by the state? Or are you sayint that kind of state sanctioned murder is ok?
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Stoning anybody appalls me. I disagree that the case you mention is restricted to where I live. It recently happened in Yemen and I'm sure it happens in other countries but you never hear about it on CNN. It's not the government - it's Sharia law. I also see the tendency for that to spread to the USA. I recently read where several "Muslim only" towns have been incorporated in New York and elsewhere.
One good thing about living here is that my DDs can go out and play unsupervised. They could go out and play at 2:00AM and nothing would ever happen to them. I can't imagine a safer place for kids. Living here, I don't have to worry about my DD2 going missing only to be found in a suitcase at the bottom of a pond.
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I just reread believer's post and can see that there were actually two questions. Yes the 8YO bride is over the top. Then again, what kind of father would "sell" his daughter to pay off debt? In how many countries do you now find parents selling their children into prostitution to support the family? You don't need to look very far, do you?
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FWIW One misconception is that the govt controls the courts. It is the polar opposite. there is a lot I could say on this but am not in a very comfortable position to do so. Don't forget that there exists an extremely delicate balance of power here and and always has since Saud needed the help of the Wahabis to conquer Riyadh in 1902. He cut a deal he didn't like but seemed like the only alternative at the time. The deal still stands.
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Pio - just let ignorant comments slide.
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BigK, I don't think B was meaning to be offensive. It was very thoughtless of her though and your point that we all live with things that are wrong closer to (all our) homes is a very pertinent one.
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Anyhoo, a spider is reading TKO. This amazes me. I didn't know spiders could read. I knew they could write though - Charlotte wrote "Great Pig".
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BigK, I don't think B was meaning to be offensive. It was very thoughtless of her though and your point that we all live with things that are wrong closer to (all our) homes is a very pertinent one. My point appeared to be totally lost on her actually.
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Gee - 12 more posts to 12,000 - or is it 11 more now - dern it! - I was never very good at math. I totally flunked the guzintas in school.
It seems like I have lived a lifetime on this thread. Not a very good one all the time either.
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I couldn't live and work in a country like that. Just saying........... This is the bit I felt was a personal attack. It implies that I am inferior.
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Gee - 12 more posts to 12,000 - or is it 11 more now - dern it! - I was never very good at math. I totally flunked the guzintas in school.
It seems like I have lived a lifetime on this thread. Not a very good one all the time either. Clearly you suck at maths. But never mind in a few years everyone will wonder what I am talking about.
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I couldn't live and work in a country like that. Just saying........... This is the bit I felt was a personal attack. It implies that I am inferior. Well you ARE inferior - we all know that. But that comment was really offensive I thought.
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Anyhoo, a spider is reading TKO. This amazes me. I didn't know spiders could read. I knew they could write though - Charlotte wrote "Great Pig". Do spiders eat lice? 
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...Any decent person would be appalled by this. Why are you singling out Pio to ask this? ... err...BigK - this is where believer may have you. I think she would argue your assumption that I'm a decent person. Now if she asked that on YOUR thread, you would have cause to argue. I have to call this one a draw. Just sayin...
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Yes, Pio works there and that is it. The proof.
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But don't you live in an area...almost compound-like subdivision or community that is separate and occupied by non muslim Americans or other nationalities and is very westernized? It is only when you venture out of there that you have the 'Saudi Arabian' experience but you seem to have little need to do that and when you want to go big time shopping you fly to Dubai?
Aside from lack of availability (and legality) of alcohol, it hasn't seemed like you and your family are very affected or exposed to the society outside your community...am I wrong?
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Anyhoo, a spider is reading TKO. This amazes me. I didn't know spiders could read. I knew they could write though - Charlotte wrote "Great Pig". "Some Pig"...Charlotte wrote "Some Pig." Then she wrote, "Humble."
I never had to take the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my solution?O'hana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten. My Story Recovered!
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How can you tell where the spiders are? Do you want me to go squash them?
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NO SQUASHING SPIDERS!
Scoop 'em up and send them outside!
I never had to take the Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think of my solution?O'hana means family, and family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten. My Story Recovered!
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