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Sometimes I think the speech has also another purpose - in my case anyway - WH told me all the things he disliked about me - now maybe they were shown in an extreme but I think some of them were actually how he really felt. So it's not only "I want my cake and eat it too..." but wanting an improved cake(in this case I am the cake  ) - because what's the first thing the BS does - improving...how clever... I have no doubt that the things WH told me that he disliked about me were things that he actually disliked about me and how he actually felt at the time. But it was definitely the affair behind why he disliked those things and felt that way. Many of the things wrong with me were characteristics I had when we met. Why would you date someone with green eyes if you hate green eyes? It doesn't make sense but then nothing waywards do is logical. You can't get hung up on this stuff because it's misguided and half-crazy. And when the dust finally settles - they don't really dislike that stuff that much at all. They might even miss it. My WH kept tellin me before Dday "blonde hair is out, you know.".....Huh? I think at this point he just hated everything about me....He hated the way I ate, the way I chewed gum, my fingernails, the way I brushed my teeth, the way I decorated the house 10 years ago...and loved everything about OW, who had black hair BTW and was obviously perfect..... 
BW me-41 WH -39 DS - 9 married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered DDay aug 2007 found MB dec 2007 Moved out april 2008 still seeing OW Plan B Okay I fixed the ages, it was looking screwy.
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I distinctly remember when my WH, H at the time, one of the last times he said that blonde hair was out, i was so mad, because it was such a stupid thing to say to me and he kept tellin me it...I said to him "The bald look is in you know"....He has soooo much thick black hair and I know he would never shave it bald....He was like "really?"...idiot.
BW me-41 WH -39 DS - 9 married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered DDay aug 2007 found MB dec 2007 Moved out april 2008 still seeing OW Plan B Okay I fixed the ages, it was looking screwy.
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I distinctly remember when my WH, H at the time, one of the last times he said that blonde hair was out, i was so mad, because it was such a stupid thing to say to me and he kept tellin me it...I said to him "The bald look is in you know"....He has soooo much thick black hair and I know he would never shave it bald....He was like "really?"...idiot.  actually stillhere, I don't know why but when I read your posts I always thought you had dark hair  Don't ask me why. Yeah my WH is now into dark haired too - hungarian women are mostly dark haired  And yes you guessed correctly - I am blonde
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BS:35(me) WH:32 DS 12/8 OW1: 2004 EA/PA? ILYBNILWY 4/09 OW2 2008/2009 EA/PA? Separated: 06/14/09 D-Day: OW3 PA 06/20/09 Am I married to a Serial Cheater?
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I distinctly remember when my WH, H at the time, one of the last times he said that blonde hair was out, i was so mad, because it was such a stupid thing to say to me and he kept tellin me it...I said to him "The bald look is in you know"....He has soooo much thick black hair and I know he would never shave it bald....He was like "really?"...idiot.  actually stillhere, I don't know why but when I read your posts I always thought you had dark hair  Don't ask me why. Yeah my WH is now into dark haired too - hungarian women are mostly dark haired  And yes you guessed correctly - I am blonde That is funny, it is weird how you get a picture in your head of the people on mb...I should do a thread on what I think everyone looks like... Actually I hate to admit it but now my hair is gray now, I am only 40... UGHHHH! I have to color it.....After Dday I told my hairdresser I was thinkin of dyin my hair black...and she refused to do it, she said I would look horrible with black hair and now would have grey roots growin in which is not too bad with the blonde....so I compromised and the back of my hair underneath I got dyed black....I guess you could call it a mid life crises thing...all the teenagers around here are doin it.... See I color my hair when I have a midlife crises, not CHEAT..... 
BW me-41 WH -39 DS - 9 married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered DDay aug 2007 found MB dec 2007 Moved out april 2008 still seeing OW Plan B Okay I fixed the ages, it was looking screwy.
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Stillhere don't feel bad. I've been colouring my hair since I was 35. My natural colour is a very dark brown but I've been gradually going lighter as, like you say, the grey roots don't stand out as much and the older I get, the less my original dark remains!
As for things WS's suddenly like/dislike, way way back - about 8 months before d-day, my DS totalled my car. I had been planning a scheme to eventually replace that car with a pickup truck so that I could have something to pull a horse trailer. This was NOT on WXH's agenda and he considered everything to do with my horse a waste of money. I had already begun my plan - leaving hints around and looking up required features etc., but I had figured I had about 2 years left on the car and plenty of time to warm him up to the idea of a truck. To make things worse, because of my long commute, the truck would have to be his regular transport while I drove the other more fuel efficient car. But when DS totalled it, I had to act immediately, otherwise I would have to wait out the lifetime of a new car. He was very surly about it and I practically dragged him kicking and screaming to various dealerships to look at trucks. Then suddenly, (after work) he was all enthusiastic, found the truck he wanted and off we went to buy it. I couldn't have stopped him if I tried.
I'll give you 3 guesses what happened here and the first 2 don't count.
OK, I can't say for 100% that I know for sure, but let's just say that OW is now the regular driver of that truck and has been since they moved in together.
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OMG, Tabby...what a ba$[censored]! I hate them, I hate them, I hate them....yeah he probably consulted with OW and she said oh a truck would be good for US!!!!!!
My WH is now driving a 1995 white car that was mine...he always hated it cuz it was white....but before dday he only needed it to go five minutes up the street to work everyday...we otherwise used the new car...
Well of course he has been saying he needs a new car now...to drive and hour back and forth to see OW I assume...well he has been tryin to take my new car(I dont care as long as a get a car that is reliable) to see if he can trade it in for two lower model new cars.
...he even asked me what color I wanted if it worked out, DS told me dad is getting a white one....you know the color HE HATED for a car...gee I wonder who the white car is for?
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BW me-41 WH -39 DS - 9 married 12 Yrs together(?) 18 yrs when A discovered DDay aug 2007 found MB dec 2007 Moved out april 2008 still seeing OW Plan B Okay I fixed the ages, it was looking screwy.
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Quite the interesting topic. I didn't get the ILYBINILWY speech, but I did get the "I'm not happy speech." I thought the timing was very odd. I asked her about it and she just replied, "It seemed it was a time I could talk with you." It was Friday, Oct 23. Her DS13 and DD15 were spending the weekend with us. I had just finished paying the bills and was in poor spirits due to the dwindling bank account I was seeing. I went upstairs and told WW, "For the first time in 15 years, I couldn't pay all the bills right now if I had to." It was then she decided to unload the bombshell. She didn't admit to the A that night. I asked if she found someone else to please keep it to herself. She replied that she "wouldn't rub my nose in it." RED FLAG. The next day after running recent behaviors and activities through my mind, I asked her if there was someone else and she admitted it. I really don't know when the EA became a PA. Just today I found his email address. She had sent him an innocent (I read it) message on 9/11 (more great timing, eh?). Chronology as I know it: - July - WW is fired from job
- July - WW files grievance over firing
- August - OM spends time at the beach w/ his children (Facebook)
- August/Sept - WW is spending more and more time with "girlfriends."
- October 23 - I'm Not Happy I'm Leaving speech
- October 24 - DDay
I speculate the A became physical some time in late August/early September. But that's pure speculation.
Preach the Gospel every day. When necessary, use words. St. Francis of Assissi
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I will let you all know once I find out what happened the 4th of April 09 in my case. It was a Saturday so that would kinda fit 
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