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Originally Posted by Alloveragain
Did I miss anything? Is there something else I can be doing? Bring it!

Plan A ... Download ENQ/LBQ fill it as your W, guess her ENs/LBs. She still lets you fill her ENs, take advantage of it.

Plan A ... Lists her complaints about you pre-A and still unresolved. You need to address it.

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Originally Posted by Alloveragain
Ok. I am going to lay down what I have so far. I know you guys probably dont need to hear it but its nice to tell you incase something else comes out of it.

Known:
1. W went to Cinci river casinos Sept 18 - 20 with friend (girl) met up with OM wile there and had sex with him

I know it sux, but this may be true. I just want you to be prepaired for anything you may find on the recorders.


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Shocking shocking discovery!!!!!!

OM is none other than OM from 2 yrs ago. It isn't Jeff at all. The email trick to craigslist as Jose worked. I am beyond horrified!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He used to live in IN. I had no idea they moved. It makes since now, I found a text she sent to an email that was "new2nky17". New to North Kentucky.

I was also incorrect about the first txt sent on sept 22. It was sept 18 when she arrived in cinci. Most likely to meet up with OM. In a way it is good to know that I am dealing with the same guy and not random.


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Not shocking at all.

Actually it's what I expected.

This is why N.C. for life is sooooo important. Any contact, of any kind can/will restart the affair.


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I asked her yesterday as we were reading HNHN if she still contacts OM and she said "yes, every once in a while". I was just probing and I told her okay and we went on. May be a stupid thing to do but I just wanted to see her response.



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What I can't believe is the friend she went with to cinci is a really nice person and we have none her and her family for a long time. It's W bestfriend. I can't believe that she would let this happen on her watch! But she is going through a divorce right and and is living it up after hours.

I sometimes think that my W sees her friends getting a divorce and r happy afterwards and all of her cousins pretty have been divorced, her parents, and I wonder if she thinks she would be better off single again.

I am far from that. I come from a family that has no divorces all the way up to grandparents. I am a lifer, I hope!

Even though we have it pretty hard, she has never questioned our marriage until recently. At least to me out loud.


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Originally Posted by Alloveragain
we have none her and her

Sorry "known"


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I got a hold of W phone and saw a txt from OM. I was able to forward it to my pnone without her knowing. It was strange though. No message, blank. Why would he send a blank message? Anyone know why?

On a different note. Is my W trying to push me away because she has fallen out of love or because she feels guilt about what she has done? SHe still has her moments where I believe she wants me. She has told me she thinks she may be bipolar but I cant tell if that is true or not. How can you tell? Does it make you do one thing radical like an affair and the next thing back to married life like nothing happened? I dont understand.

More snooping found that she emailed OM a week before she went to cinci. Probably had it all planned out. What could make someone think they can get away with it. I mean, she is deleting all calls and messages all the time. But the phone records show everything except the text itself. Need a court order to get that!


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Why would he send a blank message? Anyone know why?
That is a pre-arranged signal. Like calling and hanging up afer 3 rings. It means something to them.
That's why you need a PI.

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A PI - private investigator? Really?


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Originally Posted by Alloveragain
A PI - private investigator? Really?

What is keeping your marriage worth?

What does a divorce cost?

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It's worth everything to me!
But what can a PI do?
I have found his address, I don't know why I didn't think of it. It was listed on whitepages.com. I have his address and home phone number and his W name. I guess I will be using all of that at time of exposure?
I would get a PI but he cant tail her to his house. He lives 7 hrs away. Now, if she goes that way again I might be inclined. But what can a PI do for me at this point?


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facts. a PI will give you photo proof.

Are you planning on exposure to OMW?



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I definitely plan exposure to OMW! With both of us watching it should make it more difficult for the affair to start back up.
I found a device seizure forensic software I can download a demo for 30 days. Supposedly it can grab the txt msgs off of a phone even if they are deleted. I am going to download it tonight and try it on my phone first. If it works I could have all the evidence I need.
Might be best to wait after the holidays though. You think? Nothing like saying !!!MERRY CHRISTMAS YOUR BUSTED!!! I'm not that cruel.
What would photo proof give me if they aren't going to be seen together? Pics of her texting? Maybe a pic of him for the archive! I have never seen him. If there was something a PI could do like record conversation or intercept their texts, I have already done that. Is there something that I am missing here?


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You also need to expose to his parents and siblings. PI can get that for you.

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Couldn't OMW do that?


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Do you want to entrust the future of YOUR marriage in the hands of a woman who may or may not be married to a serial cheater? Who may or may not just accept what he does because she's so desperate that she'll look the other way? Who may tell you she'll call them, but chicken out to avoid his wrath?

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True! In one of the reports I paid for I got a list of family members. I recognized 3 of them as W and kids. The others must be parents and siblings. All I have to do is find them. Maybe a PI could do that, but I would want a lot more for the PI to do then just track down his family tree.
I always pictured a PI sitting across the street with one of those mega listening devices point at our window listening to her conversation from within. But VAR works to!


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Well, I just searched for OMs craigslist ad because I haven't gotten an email from him lately (or at least Jose ;)) hasn't, and to my surprise he has removed it. Either I spooked him or he found a better offer.

Is it bad of me to feel excited about doing this!?!


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Ok.Not feeling good at all here! I had a long chat with W 2nit. I told her how I have become depressed because of failing to make her happy all these years and I see now how destructive it has been. After about 30min. of me rambling she said she had something to say and it was going to hurt but I needed to hear it. I thought confession of OM. But no. She said she loves me an cares for me but she is no longer in love with me. Not for a couple of years. ironic since OM showed up a couple of years ago. She said she didn't want to save our marriage and was sticking around for the kids. I tried to tell I was very much wanting to save our marriage. She has atleast agreed to give it a little time.

Until!!! I found out what her FACEBOOK account was. I can't stop shaking right now. It is taking me forever to type this. I am going to paste her message to OM sister.

"MY WIFE December 10 at 1:29pm
Hi OM SISTER,
Yes, OM told me he talked to you..I am so glad he has you to talk to..I know he has really felt the need to have someone to open up to. I know he has it bad. I do understand that, and I love him very deeply also. It scares me that he wants to move here and leave everything there...i don't want him to have to walk away from his kids or to ever resent me for having done so. I have never met Steph or the kids. I hear alot about the kids from OM and they sounds adorable! I do think I could be a good "mom" to them..as I have 3 young kids myself. I think they would all blend very nicely! I get concerned though with OM taking on my son, Austin. He is severely disabled physically and mentally and requires a lot of extra care. I have stressed that to OM over and over and he seems to be okay with it. I just know how there are days I wish I could run away from it and I am his biological parent. It's a very different world. So...those are the two things that make me hesitate right now. I love OM so much and don't want to every hurt him. I'm just trying to be the practical one...since he's so starry eyed right now...lol..:-)
MY WWIFE"

IS THIS ALL THE PROOF I NEED? CAN I DESTROY THIS #$%&ER NOW?


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