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I am not a huge fan of "Tiger Woods". I typically root for the underdog because Tiger's continued success, just gets old after awhile.

What I can appreciate about Tiger's continues success is the determination it takes to get there, and what it takes to stay there.

Tiger Woods has proven is own ability to accomplish WHATEVER he sets his mind to. This is no different, If he means it and for what reasons.

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I dunno, I have seen some pretty bad cats [pardon the pun grin ] turn their lives around and I hope Tiger is one of them. If he wants to stay with his wife, he is going to have to make some dramatic changes because she will hold him accountable. She does not seem to me to be so enamored of his stardom after she kicked his [censored] with a golf club. This nuclear exposure might just be the very thing that motivates him to change his life. That, and this little Norwegian wife who clearly will take no crap.

A person's character is also defined by what they did to RIGHT their wrongs.

who knows?


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However, his legal team, his spin doctors, and an entire sport will see that he "appears" to be reabilitated

a la Angelina Whoring and Brad's the Pitts.


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I dunno, Melanie - there are reports today that she's been out in public without her wedding ring and that she is preparing to file for divorce in California - a community property state - and that because of Tiger's epic sh*tting on the marriage, a good lawyer may well get the pre-nup thrown out.

If he wants to reconcile, he'll probably have to do it *after* divorce.

But as I said - I don't think he'll do that. I think he was only married because somebody said it was good for his image. Well, all that's ruined now - the public will never take him seriously as a married/family man ever again. So what does he need a wife for?

We need to set up some odds here. Mel and a few others think he might straighten out; Mulan says no way.

Either way, it should be interesting, and I do think it's very relevant to MB for:

The huge example it provides of what exposure can really do.

The way every WS builds walls around his/her cheating that they are just sure are rock-solid -- but those walls always prove to be built of lies and delusional fantasy, and they always come crashing down when the cold light of exposure hits them. Every time. Tiger was paying huge amounts of hush money to the wh*res (before exposure) and huge amounts of money to a PR team who was supposed to control this sort of thing, and the lies *still* rotted right through those walls.

And for the way WS surround themselves with yes-people and suckups who tell them what they want to hear and happily enable their cheating in hopes of getting some crumbs for themselves. Real friends - the ones who would tell the WS that they are going down a very bad road - are always cut out of the WS's circle. And that includes the BS if the BS also refuses to enable the cheating.

Oh, yeah, Tiger has actually done us a big favor here at MB. We'll be able to use him as an example for devastated BS for a long time to come, because they'll be able to see that their WSs are doing the same things Tiger did. It may be on a smaller scale, but it'll be the same stuff nonetheless.
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And before I forget, let me add to the list above:

The rock-stupid gullibility of the OP who believe everything their MARRIED affair partner tells them, and then are mad/hurt/betrayed because their cheater was cheating on them - either with more OP or *sob* with the BS!

And the inevitable whining of the OP who insist that THEY are the victims in all this.

Tiger has given us a full-blown, to-the-letter, in-living-Technicolor example of the wayward script, and has proven that all the money in the world can't make lies go away.

Wonder who's going to play him in the movie?



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Wonder who's going to play him in the movie?


Who indeed? smile

I don�t think he�s going to change a thing except being more careful. The sad fact is that their marriage has never known a single day of fidelity. There are even reports circulating that Tiger is still in contact with his favorite bimbo. Ughh.

There never was a marriage in any real sense so there is nothing to recover. He has no idea what love and marriage actually entail.

While Tiger Woods golf game is arguably the best ever, his ability to love and cherish a family is a skill he does not possess. I think Tiger Woods is all about, Tiger Woods.

Elin deserves much more.


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What is making me angry about this whole situation is that all these bimbos are going to make a lot of money on their interviews giving 'their' side of it.

Makes me sick. puke rant2

Just the idea that these people will profit for having no morals or integrity or thought for Elin or children is stupefying.

To have this stuff all over the news, I really feel for Elin.

It would be so hard to know your WS was NEVER faithful. I don't know that I could bear it if I were her.


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He won't change because there are really no hard consequences for him to.

Agree that he could be the poster child.

Wonder how long it will take for this to get swept under the rug?

After he does whatever dance for the public and sponsors to get him back "in game" it will be interesting to hear what he says in his next slip-up.

Yes Elin deserves better

Oh yeah remember Jessica Hahn? She had her time in the press. On TV shows... people love dirt.

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This nuclear exposure might just be the very thing that motivates him to change his life. That, and this little Norwegian wife who clearly will take no crap. ?
Well, his SWEDISH wife was the one that hit him with the club.

I wonder what his other Scandinavian wives think of him. grin


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CNN and other sources report today that Elin Woods *is* filing for divorce. She's already closed on an island mansion in Sweden.

Tiger reported to be hanging out with his single guy friends.

Like I said - !

However, I still wonder if she was told to either leave the country or be deported due to felony Domestic Violence (with a golf club), as I don't think she is a U.S. citizen.
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P.S. Tiger also reported to be in contact with ho-bag #1, and never stopped even after the Thanksgiving Night meltdown.
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More coming out about Tiger...

Doctor who Treated Woods Eyed for Drugs

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A Canadian doctor who has treated golfer Tiger Woods, swimmer Dara Torres and NFL players is suspected of providing athletes with performance-enhancing drugs, according to a newspaper report.


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The Fall of the House of Tiger Woods is being witnessed on the world stage. Tiger Woods might be the most recognized face in the world.

Your post links an article that could imply that Tiger was using steroids. About the same time that story came out another surfaced claiming the existence of a Tiger Woods� Love Child.

Ugg, from bad to worse all caused by Tiger, he did this to himself.


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"I would be especially sad about it since I'm kind of -- I really feel sorry for Elin -- since me and my wife were at fault for hooking her up with him," Parnevik said. "We probably thought he was a better guy than he is. I would probably need to apologize to her and hope she uses a driver next time instead of the 3-iron." -- Jesper Parnevik on espn.com

Elin just took the biggest driver there is out of the bag and is letting him have it.

It's called a divorce lawyer. And the bruises to his wallet will be severe. He's already broken his reputation, and this break is way too big for a cast and can't be properly reset.


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Here is an interesting piece on the massive entitlement of big-shot men in general and athletes in particular:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...egas-values/story-e6frg7mf-1225812237009

I just want to know who is raising all these trashy, slutty girls who are making their livings this way.
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These guys are truly revolting monsters. When encountering them(and many are ****edit**** in all areas) I often say to myself or a buddy that has been offended' Weel, at least we are not married to the guy." I see the same thing with some of the big shot attorney's in town, often little weiniesque guys that have made a lot of $$ by being a-holes. It must be a nightmare dealing with them on a day to day basis, as a spouse.
Tiger Woods is not a thoughtful man. He lacks substance. He believes his own hype. I'm sure a conversation with him would be incredibly dull.
One guy I have always admired who played in the NBA is AC Green. He vowed to remain a virgin until he married and was able to keep his committment despite being ridiculed by fellow players.

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Was watching a TV judge show. There was a young guy who was a successful Real-estate agent that bought Frank Sinatras old mansion to make porno films in. He referred to himslf as a "smart and successful man" and sometimes joins in.

The judge was laughing at the whole incident.

Sleaziness is acceptable now and the most that happens is it is snickered at by our media unless they can make a buck exploiting someone who is suppossed to be an Icon.

Its sad that sports stars and world leaders don't take the influence they have on people more seriuosly. To me, half of thier job is to inspire us to persevere in the face of challenges.

They make a mockery of accountability



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Update: Reports are, from both gossip sites and places like CNN and MSNBC, that Tiger is spending Christmas on his yacht in the Bahamas with a lot of "single friends".

There is also word that golf is counting the days until their massive cash cow comes back, and will do practically anything to get him playing again.

I don't think Tiger cares about anything but golf and ho-bags, and I'm sure it's a relief to him that he doesn't have to be bothered with his annoying wife and the kids anymore. And I'm dead serious about that.

As I said above, I think he will go back to golf, continue the single lifestyle that he never gave up, and be perfectly happy.

Elin is the one who will be left devastated for a long time to come, as she realizes how very little she ever meant to her husband. No amount of money can ease that pain.
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And oh, yeah, wait until the kids are old enough to get online. They will know how much Daddy really cared about them and their mother.
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I believe he is still carrying one one of the affairs. Even now.

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