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This sounds much more positive. I'm so pleased for you. Long may it continue!!
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I couldn't have said any better than what black raven did .... lol ! Yes, for sure. Change takes time L4, please don't get discouraged if the next time something comes up, doesn't seem to go as well. It seems like both of you and Mr. L4 are revealing new people. How great is that!  ...... one for each of you. 
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Wow L4! Thats awsome!
I hope you and your family have a blessed and wonderful Christmas.
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This morning my H said that my stomach looks "flatter". I think that was a compliment. I had some last minute shopping. Something red and saucy caught my eye. I indulged and bought it and other red, saucy under-thingies. Then, inspired by ST, I went out of my way, stopped at a store that wasn't on the agenda, and purchased other "stuff". I'm hoping to temp H, and he'll want to unwrap me for Christmas.  While I'm on the topic of under-thingies, Ladies this next is for your eyes only. Consider it a public service announcement. I hate panty-lines. Can't stand them and started wearing very uncomfortable thongs in the name of vanity over a decade ago. The moment I could take them off, I would.
Shortly after D-day, I decided that as part of meeting H's EN for PA, I should try to be sexy -- if even just a bit -- every day. So making thongs part of my everyday wear was one answer. Now whether I'm in sweats or a ballgown (because I attend so many formal functions), I always have something on that I know H likes.
For those of you who want to wear this piece of clothing but you can't stand how they feel...
I have found THE most comfortable thongs, ever. E-V-E-R. I'm sharing because we do many things to look good and often these things are not the most comfortable, especially for a whole day. (I'm also sharing because we seem to share anything here.) The answer, my friends, is at Target. The brand is Gilligan & O'Malley and the specific kind is the Modal Thong. They're seemless and come in a variety of colors and styles. I have thrown away all but two of what I used to have and otherwise now own a drawer-full of this brand.
Thus ends my public service announcement. I hope everyone is doing well. I have an easy day tomorrow of hanging with the kids and doing some cooking for Christmas Eve while H works. Maybe I'll stop by and check on everyone here too since I don't have time now. Take care.
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Thank you, Lil. I hope the same for you and yours.
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L4, Count me as strange, but.... I tell my wife how I think women's clothing looks best. On the floor. Next to the bed. Sometimes I get the back of the fist thumping my chest. Sometimes....I don't.   Kinda like the lottery -- can't win if you don't play!
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NC finally established after eight false starts: 1/23/09
Final Version of Events 6/09
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That is my brand of thong, as well, L4. Super comfy.
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That was a girls' only chat!!! You bad boys 
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And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. But the angel said to them, "Do not be afraid. I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger."
Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,"Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to men on whom his favor rests."
-- Luke 2:8-14
My prayer is that every one of you experiences the joy, peace, and love of our Lord Jesus Christ, today and every day.
Merry Christmas and God bless.
Love,
-L4
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8 minutes into Christmas day here. Merry Christmas and God bless you and yours too, L4.
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That was a girls' only chat!!! You bad boys Sorry, but you start a discussion about my wife wearing a thong every day, I'm sticking my nose into it... Did that come out right?
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That was a girls' only chat!!! You bad boys Sorry, but you start a discussion about my wife wearing a thong every day, I'm sticking my nose into it... Did that come out right? OMG ottert .......  Thanks for the Christmas laugh! Zelmo, I got a visual. 
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OMG ottert ....... Thanks for the Christmas laugh! 
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now if I could just get Rudolph out of my mind .......
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now if I could just get Rudolph out of my mind .......
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My prayer is that every one of you experiences the joy, peace, and love of our Lord Jesus Christ, today and every day.
Merry Christmas and God bless.
Love,
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now if I could just get Rudolph out of my mind ....... Christmas is over, but I was hoping Mrsottert would ask me to guide her sleigh...
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Hi L4, you have mail... and hopefully a time to meet tomorrow.
Did you hear, Believer may be able to JOIN us. Woo hoo...
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Envy isn't a good look, is it? Can I join you too?
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Oh, my! Sleigh rides and red noses and wardrobes on the floor... Where is my husband and what can I do to occupy the kids?!
That is great news, Queenie. And yes, ST, you're welcome to join us too.
I have a question for you smart people... What are the differences/similarities among an ultimatum, a boundary, and a condition?
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