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Ok, my wife uses windows mail at work. She works at nordstrom if that may help. I need to find a way of finding out the mail account settings, such as servers. Once I have this I can figure out the user name and password. There are only 2 ways that thier can still be contact, and the most likely would be work email. Thank youfor any help that you can provide.
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Maybe some can answer the ???'s, bumping is never a bad thing, unless of course you are on the end of the bed 
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i think this is for you...if not it is for whoever requested it! Google Website Catches Cheaters
Me: 32 BS DDay: 9/14/08 Slowly coming to the realization that I am one of those who can't get past it.
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Bump, it's been a while 
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It took a voice-activated recorder to catch my wife making plans to divorce me and marry her lover. It might be intimidating to set up, but it's really straightforward. The biggest risk is battery-swap time, that you'll be caught.
Important note: It's better to buy digital than analog (that is, one with a memory chip rather than a physical tape) because they typically consume much less battery life, record more without swapping media, and are TOTALLY SILENT compared with the subtle winding noise of an analog VAR...
1. Go to Radio Shack with cash in your hand -- around $100 should do it -- and order one of their cheaper digital voice-activated recorders. You should be able to find some decent options in their catalog for less than $60. Make sure the VAR uses replaceable, standard-type batteries (size AA or AAA).
Also pick up some sticky-backed Velcro from Wal-Mart or a craft store; it's typically less than $5.00. And enough rechargeable batteries to have one set in the VAR and one in the charger; if the VAR takes two AAA batteries, I'd buy six rechargeable batteries to be on the safe side.
2. Charge the batteries. Or if you're using Alkalines and are OK with burning through a few sets of batteries a week, don't worry about charging.
3. Practice with the VAR in privacy to make sure that the Beep setting is off (it can be set to "beep" when it's recording), that it records silently, and that you know it's turned on. Also become familiar with the PC transfer capabilities of the VAR and how to change batteries very rapidly. You'll need these skills.
4. At a time when your spouse is sleeping or otherwise not using the vehicle, use some Velcro to mount the VAR somewhere near the steering wheel. Most cars have a "false front" just above the pedals where you can stick the VAR. Use a long strip of velcro -- the length of the VAR, if possible -- to keep it secure.
If your vehicle doesn't have any sort of "false front" near the driver, you may need to find somewhere else innocuous to plant it. Make sure it's somewhere that you wouldn't think of as a place to hide something.
3. Here's the scary part: setting up some kind of schedule to swap the batteries every day or every few days, depending on model and consumption. You need to be able to get into the car, change the batteries, and escape unnoticed. Does your spouse go to bed early? Late? What time does the wayward spouse arise? Document the patterns and you'll find an easy opportunity to place it without notice from the wayward.
4. Once a week or so, download the VAR audio logs to your PC or Mac and listen to them. Or, if you have one that does not include PC transfer abilities, use the fast-forward features to skip as much silence as possible. Only keep the incriminating recordings, and carefully note the time/date these incidents occurred.
Look, a voice-activated-recorder in a vehicle typically nails them the first time, almost every time. They are never expecting it, particularly in the car. But it also takes some work on your part, because you get to listen to a lot of radio time and random chatter, and it's a little tough to set up and get familiar with a new piece of technology.
In some cases, it's even caught the lovers having sex in the car!
Now, if you don't want to buy a VAR, but have laptops laying around your house with microphones in them like I do, you can download a free application called "Audacity". It's not voice-activated, but just set it to "record" and you can skip all the silence visually by dragging the cursor. Make sure to disable the power-saving settings on your laptop so that if the top is closed it stays on, and set it, plugged in, somewhere innocuous near that wayward spouse's "favorite spot" in order to catch their adulterous conversations. It's important to note where the CPU vents are in the case... you don't want that fan winding up because the CPU is overheating while your spouse is talking, alerting them to the recorder!
Hope these tips help. Most spouses catch cheating spouses with a VAR in the car within just a few days. I caught several conversations, but nothing incriminating enough for 5 days.
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"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt Exposure 101
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Just had an additional thought for this thread. If you were to rank the most effective snooping methods, what would they be?
1. For ease of use, ease of installation, low cost (from free to just less than $100), and amazing ability to nab spouses misbehaving online, a screenlogger and screenshot logger combo on their computer is very hard to beat.
2. Flexispy Light on the wayward's iPhone, Blackberry, Windows Mobile, or Symbion phone is AMAZING, if a bit expensive. You can get the content of SMS messages both ways, if it has a GPS (or a pseudo-GPS, like old 2G iPhones) you can see where they have gone during the day, and get complete call history (helpful if their bills are no longer being delivered to your house!). For spouses carrying on affairs via a newer high-tech phone, this does the job very well. The "Pro" version isn't really worth the price right now, as the "remote monitoring" feature tends to crash the phone...
**Tip: If your spouse has a Blackberry and keeps it password-protected whenever they don't have it on their person, there's an easy bit of social-engineering you can do to break in. If you fail to enter the correct Blackberry password 10 times in a row, it prompts you if you want to erase all data and reset the phone. Confirm that's what you want to do... now you have an empty Blackberry free of applications. Go to the Flexispy web browsing address on the browser, install the app, delete the web browsing history, and when they restore their data to the phone, Flexispy will still be there. The "social engineering" bit is explaining this to your spouse. You can leave it unexplained, blank, and un-passworded, leaving your spouse to wonder why they have to restore their BB from a backup. Or if forced to 'fess up say that you were concerned about porn on their blackberry, tried to get in, and didn't realize it deleted all their data once you tried the ten different passwords you guessed. Realize this procedure is going to take around 10-15 minutes... so you need some time alone with their phone to get things set up.
3. A GPS in the vehicle is also very, very effective. They are kind of expensive, too, but you can Velcro the GPS to various places in their car. The rotation scheme will be the same as the voice-activated recorder: schedule a time according to when your spouse will be sleeping or otherwise occupied to plan to change the batteries and download the recorder data onto your PC. A great benefit of a GPS vs. a VAR is the variety of places you can put it in a vehicle.
Just a few more thoughts...
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The VAR where can you put it in the car that it won't be detected? & how?
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@tryingtogoon Re-read my post on VARs above. There's typically a "false front" that extends down from the dashboard to near the driver's and passenger's side feet, so there's a gap under the dash by the driver's feet. Velcro it up behind that part of the dash. You'll get a lot of road noise there, but you should be able to catch the conversations. Most cars also typically have buttons that are "blanks" near the driver, if your model of vehicle doesn't have all the bells and whistles that might come with the car. You can often run the mini-mic up near those to get better sound quality. Some enterprising people with some car stereo installation experience have actually run the microphone up into the cloth ceiling or into plastic housings to do this... you can probably pay a local car stereo guy to take care of it for you if you can arrange to borrow your spouse's car. Might cost an extra $100, and be sure to pay cash... Link to post on VAR installation & routines you need to set up to keep it working: http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2299477#Post2299477
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Flexispy also works on iPhones now. Go here to check out the details: LINK
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Flexispy also works on iPhones now. Go here to check out the details: LINK Thank YOU !!!!
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I was curious if there is any way to get an email password if you know the account? My wife changed her password and I would like to get it, but I don't know if I can besides putting a keylogger on her computer at work which would be a little risky. Is there any good hacking programs out there that I can download to get the email password? I found this, but don't know if it is legit. www.know-the-truth.net
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Best ways to get the password:
1. Ask. Seriously. Just ask for it. If your spouse doesn't give you the password, they are hiding something.
2. Many email providers have a secondary email account which password change requests go through. That's how I found my FWW's secret email account: the notification message about creating the account came to her account to which I had the password.
3. If you're not worried about your spouse knowing you spied, just do a password reset request on the account. Set it to a value you know. Then quickly print & save anything damning. Most waywards will start a mass-delete regimen after this, so it's a one-shot deal.
4. Keylogger. Nothing better for sniffing out passwords.
5. Screen logger. You don't need the password if you can do screen-dumps of whatever they are doing & reading on the computer.
That's the end of my initial thoughts on the topic. Back to work!
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