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First Minister's wife attempts suicide after affair

and it's getting worse - if that's possible.

The prominent businessman she had the A with was actually a 19 year old boy she had known since he was 9. She was 59 at the time of the A. MrRollieEyes

And she arranged for local property developers to "give" him �50,000 to set up a business. I wonder what they got out of the deal?

What a mess, and talk about insane!!!!!


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Insane indeed, sere.

She is not just the wife of the First Minister of Northern Ireland, she is an MP here at the UK Parliament in Westminster, in her own right. She has the power to legislate over things like the age of sexual consent, abortion and homosexuality. She has spoken out about sexual immorality, which is unusual for a UK politician these days.

The financial deal suggests improper use of her position as an MP.

Her BH called it an "improper relationship" when he made his statement to the media. It's a pity he chose whitewashing words like those.


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The BH's interview was heart-wrenching to watch. He seemed to be in intense pain still and his D-Day was in March.

The whole family must be so deeply traumatised. I think her 3 children are older than her AP.

It is just so hard to fathom how someone with such stongly held beliefs can act so awfully against those beliefs, not to mention the stupidity of it all.

Unbelievable.


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And tried to kill herself over the affair?

Unbelievable.


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MP's and Waynerds sure do a lot of lying.

You can't seem to trust a single MP just the same as you can't trust Waynerds.

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Who's left to have faith in?


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Originally Posted by serendipitous
MP's and Waynerds sure do a lot of lying.

You can't seem to trust a single MP just the same as you can't trust Waynerds.

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Who's left to have faith in?

Dr Harley.


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Originally Posted by sugarcane
Dr Harley.

Yep!

Quotes from Iris Robinson...

"What I say I base on biblical pronouncements, based on God�s word. I am amazed that people are surprised when I quote from scriptures�

�I am trying to reach out to people. I try to reach out and love them. That is what Christ teaches us. He wants us to help all people and give them an opportunity. We all have the opportunity to come to know the Lord Jesus Christ. Anything I say is out of love. I cannot leave my Christian values hanging at the door when I go into politics.

"There will be a judgement day and when I am judged I want to know that I did all I could to spread the word of God.�

"it is the government's responsibility to uphold God's law".


Don't you just love the hypocrisy of our politicians. Say one thing, do another and very quick to condemn others whilst leading immoral lives themselves..

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Originally Posted by SugarCane
Originally Posted by serendipitous
MP's and Waynerds sure do a lot of lying.

You can't seem to trust a single MP just the same as you can't trust Waynerds.

sigh

Who's left to have faith in?

Dr Harley.

Dr. Harley is the only human left on the planet to have faith in?

This kind of reverence and hero worship of a man is very disturbing to me.

He is only a man. A very intelligent man whose books and counseling program have helped marriages. But still only a man, with the same faults and capapility of sin and error as any other person of flesh and blood.

Does he warrant our respect as an author, marriage counselor and psychologist? Of course. But I read and analyze his material and advice with the same discernment I would anyone else. What I deem right, I accept. What I deem wrong, I discard.

It so happens that I deem much of what he writes as correct. But he is not infallible, some of his positions are debatable, and he is certainly not the only human left on the planet to have faith in.






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It's all the typical A stuff. While I wish BH had used the phrase adultery or infidelity, I did like that he said this:

"Those were 40 years during which she supported me more than any person could reasonably have been expected to. Forty years where we walked the valley basin as well as the mountain paths � but most of all 40 years during which we shared a strong loving relationship. I determined that I could not walk away without making a genuine effort to see if my marriage could be saved. That is the road I am on. It is a road without guarantees but it is not without hope. I love my wife. I have always been faithful to her."

I don't know what's in this man's heart or if it's PR spin but I like it. dance2

I don't know if WW was serious about the suicide or if it was a ploy, but it is scary nonetheless.

And finally....LMAO at the photo they used of her LHAO when you consider the title. laugh


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Originally Posted by ottert
Originally Posted by SugarCane
Originally Posted by serendipitous
MP's and Waynerds sure do a lot of lying.

You can't seem to trust a single MP just the same as you can't trust Waynerds.

sigh

Who's left to have faith in?

Dr Harley.

Dr. Harley is the only human left on the planet to have faith in?

This kind of reverence and hero worship of a man is very disturbing to me.

He is only a man. A very intelligent man whose books and counseling program have helped marriages. But still only a man, with the same faults and capapility of sin and error as any other person of flesh and blood.

Does he warrant our respect as an author, marriage counselor and psychologist? Of course. But I read and analyze his material and advice with the same discernment I would anyone else. What I deem right, I accept. What I deem wrong, I discard.

It so happens that I deem much of what he writes as correct. But he is not infallible, some of his positions are debatable, and he is certainly not the only human left on the planet to have faith in.
Oh, lighten up, ottert. And by the way, I know where this is going.

Don't go there.


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Good morning, Sere,

The foot of snow in my driveway has given me a few hours to read through MB this morning. My heart momentarily dropped when I saw your post. I was fearful that Billyboy was in need of a neutering. (-: So read your post with relief.

Sometimes I think that even true Christians without boundaries are very likely to fall into adultery because of their loving and giving nature. I think that her suicide attempt shows a guilt beyond remorse. We are all sinful, imperfect people and I am praying for this M.

I like very much what her BH said and how he has been reacting. It appears that he has not glossed over his pain and continued about his official business as though his entire life was not in flames. Most public people do that in the face of adultery.

I hope that all is going well with your M. I am still very grateful to Billy for his open and honest posts in the beginning of your R as I printed them out and used them to show my own DH how far from being alone he is in his thoughts and actions.

Stay warm. I have been reading about Britains problems in the wake of this most recent global warming episode.

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This quote from the story stood out to me:

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"Over a year and a half ago I was involved in a relationship. It began completely innocently when I gave support to someone following a family death. I encouraged friends to assist him by providing financial support for a business venture.

"Regrettably, the relationship later developed into a brief affair. It had no emotional or lasting meaning but my actions have devastated my life and the lives of those around me."


It's amazing, isn't it, how so many affairs begin with "innocent" conversations or interaction with someone outside your marriage? Hers was even a noble cause, "giving support to someone following a family death."

Can't be too careful, can you?


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SC,

You're the one responding to my post and taking this conversation...where? I don't know.

My point is made and I have no need to discuss it further.


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Originally Posted by ottert
SC,

You're the one responding to my post and taking this conversation...where? I don't know.

My point is made and I have no need to discuss it further.

Grow up, ottert!


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Originally Posted by ottert
This quote from the story stood out to me:

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"Over a year and a half ago I was involved in a relationship. It began completely innocently when I gave support to someone following a family death. I encouraged friends to assist him by providing financial support for a business venture.

"Regrettably, the relationship later developed into a brief affair. It had no emotional or lasting meaning but my actions have devastated my life and the lives of those around me."


It's amazing, isn't it, how so many affairs begin with "innocent" conversations or interaction with someone outside your marriage? Hers was even a noble cause, "giving support to someone following a family death."

Can't be too careful, can you?


I guess we should all be monks????

ALL Affairs begin with conversation..... DUH..... How else would they start?

But 99.9999999% of ALL conversations will not lead to affairs, now will they.






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Sere, I had to chuckle when I read the name... Mrs. Robinson

Sick sorta humor I have, yanno.... lol





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Originally Posted by ottert
Can't be too careful, can you?

Nope, you can't. That's why there are boundaries and EPs.


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Originally Posted by saynomore
Good morning, Sere,

The foot of snow in my driveway has given me a few hours to read through MB this morning. My heart momentarily dropped when I saw your post. I was fearful that Billyboy was in need of a neutering. (-: So read your post with relief.

rotflmao

I had such a chuckle when I read this.

It's lovely to hear from you. How are things with you and your H?

Originally Posted by saynomore
Sometimes I think that even true Christians without boundaries are very likely to fall into adultery because of their loving and giving nature. I think that her suicide attempt shows a guilt beyond remorse. We are all sinful, imperfect people and I am praying for this M.

I agree that anyone, even strict religious people can have A's. Dr H says that we are all wired for it in the right (or wrong) circumstances. I just hate it when people preach about how others should live when they are not living good lives which hold up to scrutiny themselves. I too hope they can recover and that the BH can truly forgive his W for her wrongdoing, and that in receiving his forgiveness, she can accept herself, flaws and all.

Originally Posted by saynomore
I like very much what her BH said and how he has been reacting. It appears that he has not glossed over his pain and continued about his official business as though his entire life was not in flames. Most public people do that in the face of adultery.

My heart aches for him. He looks bereft.

Originally Posted by saynomore
I hope that all is going well with your M. I am still very grateful to Billy for his open and honest posts in the beginning of your R as I printed them out and used them to show my own DH how far from being alone he is in his thoughts and actions.

Stay warm. I have been reading about Britains problems in the wake of this most recent global warming episode.

God's Blessings,

Say

Things are going very well Say. Thank you so much for asking. I will pass on your comments to BB. He'll love it to hear that he has helped someone. If you get chance, why don't you join us in the In Recovery forum. We have a lovely bunch of posters there and it'd be lovely to have you there.

Take care Say and let me know how your R is going if you can.


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Originally Posted by black_raven
It's all the typical A stuff. While I wish BH had used the phrase adultery or infidelity, I did like that he said this:

"Those were 40 years during which she supported me more than any person could reasonably have been expected to. Forty years where we walked the valley basin as well as the mountain paths � but most of all 40 years during which we shared a strong loving relationship. I determined that I could not walk away without making a genuine effort to see if my marriage could be saved. That is the road I am on. It is a road without guarantees but it is not without hope. I love my wife. I have always been faithful to her."

I don't know what's in this man's heart or if it's PR spin but I like it. dance2

I liked that too.

I know all us BS's have the right to walk away, and that many today do just that when a M hits problems, I do like to see this stance being taken. Sometimes you just have to look at what you have had for all the years before the A and see if the M can be saved before you go the D route.

What would be even better is the WS looking at what they are throwing away before they go the A route. sigh

What bugs me is that some see it as weak to stay in a M and that you are strong if you walk away.

It's not as simple as that, and we all know that it takes a great deal of strength to rebuild a M broken by adultery.


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Originally Posted by tst
Sere, I had to chuckle when I read the name... Mrs. Robinson

Sick sorta humor I have, yanno.... lol

I had that very same chuckle when I read how old he was tst.

We must all be sicko's here. blush



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