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I'm not talking about the rise in your jeans. I'm wearing a kilt.
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Quick t/j - PSU don't you have court today (or very soon)?
Back on topic - didn't get this line but WXH exhibited extremely cruel behavior long, long, long after exposure. This included, but not limited to, bring OW to my house, to my baseball games, asking that she light the unity candle for my DS's wedding, stealing wedding gifts including pictures so he could photoshop her face onto my picture, taking advantage of my need to care for my mom who was undergoing and subsequently recovering from open heart surgery, stealing, lying, spreading rumours and most recently, forcing me to take him to court when my income tax was deposited in his account by mistake.
Waywards are cruel. Best to avoid them. It's been 3 whole days since I last saw mine. Hopefully, there is only one more meeting when he pays me my money and then I'm free. Hopefully.
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One would certainly hope not, if they have an ounce of humanity and empathy. Are we reading the same message board? Almost all the WS's I have read about on here lashed out at the point of exposure. Weather they later became FWS's or XWS's People engaged in adultery do not think like normal humans, therefore they do not react like normal humans. Some times it is a temporary condition, sometimes it is not. Yes, I have read these stories about the WSs lashing out. But, look at the quality of the human being you are dealing with. By definition, they are less moral and empathetic.
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"Yikes, she did it after exposure. One would think she would be at her most contrite, at that point."
Then why is every BS told to expect from their WS right after exposure.
How is even possible for a WS to rage and be contrite at the same time?
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I did not use those exact words...Actually I said WORSE, Why not start a thread and ASK? I bet not ONE fWW on here will say they said that, NONE. BREAK THIS B! DUDE Pay up sucka!!
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One would certainly hope not, if they have an ounce of humanity and empathy. Are we reading the same message board? Almost all the WS's I have read about on here lashed out at the point of exposure. Weather they later became FWS's or XWS's People engaged in adultery do not think like normal humans, therefore they do not react like normal humans. Some times it is a temporary condition, sometimes it is not. Yes, I have read these stories about the WSs lashing out. But, look at the quality of the human being you are dealing with. By definition, they are less moral and empathetic. Add..."WHEN THEY ARE WAYWARD" to the end of what you said, Zelmo...And RIGHT, WHEN THEY ARE WAYWARD they OBVIOUSLY are less moral and empathetic...that is pretty much the DEFINITION of wayward...Of course they aren't acting like a "quality human being" AT THAT TIME...They are WAYWARD... Sadly Zelmo, you never got the opportunity to see either of your wives STOP being wayward - from the sounds of it, they both remain wayward till this day...I am truly sorry for that - that is AWFUL for you... Mrs. W
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Anyone that CRUEL ON HERE? DUDE EVERY wayward on the planet is CRUEL...By their very definition waywards are cruel...Um Hello, on what planet isn't the whole thing just one great big giant ball of CRUELTY? I did not use those exact words...Actually I said WORSE, and YES I was most certainly the embodiment of EVIL when I was wayward - DUH, waywardism IS evil in action...The things I said would curl your toes and/or make you vomit...I know they do that to me if I ever revisit those horrible memories... Let's not forget though that the WORDS aren't nearly as horrible as the actual ACTIONS...I find it odd that people are getting far more enraged by the WORDS of the wayward than they are by the ACTIONS...The WORDS aren't a deal breaker, if the ACTIONS aren't... Telling that man that his wife is any different than any garden variety wayward is a disservice...Tell him to expose, tell him she will go ballistic when he does and then tell him she went "too ballistic" based upon WORDS? Ridiculous... Words from a wayward are MEANINGLESS...Those are merely the blood spatter from the GUN SHOT...If one survives the gun shot, the blood spatter is just a matter of clean-up... That marriage is still VERY recoverable... Mrs. W This is wrong, IMO. Piling on with cruel words that will forever haunt someone is adding insult to injury. The effect of both the actions and the words is cumulative. Normal people do not inflict this type of damage, IMO>
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"Yikes, she did it after exposure. One would think she would be at her most contrite, at that point."
Then why is every BS told to expect from their WS right after exposure.
How is even possible for a WS to rage and be contrite at the same time? How about not raging at all? Or, keeping her mouth shut, if she is pissed. Those are the two options that come to mind.
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One would certainly hope not, if they have an ounce of humanity and empathy. Are we reading the same message board? Almost all the WS's I have read about on here lashed out at the point of exposure. Weather they later became FWS's or XWS's People engaged in adultery do not think like normal humans, therefore they do not react like normal humans. Some times it is a temporary condition, sometimes it is not. Yes, I have read these stories about the WSs lashing out. But, look at the quality of the human being you are dealing with. By definition, they are less moral and empathetic. Add..."WHEN THEY ARE WAYWARD" to the end of what you said, Zelmo...And RIGHT, WHEN THEY ARE WAYWARD they OBVIOUSLY are less moral and empathetic...that is pretty much the DEFINITION of wayward...Of course they aren't acting like a "quality human being" AT THAT TIME...They are WAYWARD... Sadly Zelmo, you never got the opportunity to see either of your wives STOP being wayward - from the sounds of it, they both remain wayward till this day...I am truly sorry for that - that is AWFUL for you... Mrs. W Thanks, Mrs W. At least I am not in their presence, anymore. I was regaled with descriptions of the OM, like PSU. They are miscreants. I guess I subscribe to the belief that in order to go down this cheating road, a person has to be funadamentally different than a normal, caring human being. I feel the same way about alcoholics, as Ihave dealt with several in my life. Thye are just fundamentally wired differently, IMO, so as to make them capable of this stuff in the first place.
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But it IS the best darn sex ever.
As Harley states on page 22 of His Needs Her Needs
"What really turns you on, however, is not your new partner, but the fantasy. As you and your lover plan where and when to meet for passionate sessions of lovemaking you leave the realities of living behind."
Hey! Who wouldn't love THAT?!
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Anyone that CRUEL ON HERE? DUDE EVERY wayward on the planet is CRUEL...By their very definition waywards are cruel...Um Hello, on what planet isn't the whole thing just one great big giant ball of CRUELTY? I did not use those exact words...Actually I said WORSE, and YES I was most certainly the embodiment of EVIL when I was wayward - DUH, waywardism IS evil in action...The things I said would curl your toes and/or make you vomit...I know they do that to me if I ever revisit those horrible memories... Let's not forget though that the WORDS aren't nearly as horrible as the actual ACTIONS...I find it odd that people are getting far more enraged by the WORDS of the wayward than they are by the ACTIONS...The WORDS aren't a deal breaker, if the ACTIONS aren't... Telling that man that his wife is any different than any garden variety wayward is a disservice...Tell him to expose, tell him she will go ballistic when he does and then tell him she went "too ballistic" based upon WORDS? Ridiculous... Words from a wayward are MEANINGLESS...Those are merely the blood spatter from the GUN SHOT...If one survives the gun shot, the blood spatter is just a matter of clean-up... That marriage is still VERY recoverable... Mrs. W This is wrong, IMO. Piling on with cruel words that will forever haunt someone is adding insult to injury. The effect of both the actions and the words is cumulative. Normal people do not inflict this type of damage, IMO> I've never met a wayward that was "normal"...You should expect evil from evil...Waywards ARE evil... I maintain that if the actions aren't a deal breaker, then the words sure aren't...Mr. W and I are living proof of that... Remember that the words and actions of a wayward say NOTHING about the BS - they speak to the EVIL of the WS... I like what Eleanor Roosevelt said: "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."Mrs. W
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"Yikes, she did it after exposure. One would think she would be at her most contrite, at that point."
Then why is every BS told to expect from their WS right after exposure.
How is even possible for a WS to rage and be contrite at the same time? How about not raging at all? Or, keeping her mouth shut, if she is pissed. Those are the two options that come to mind. The selfishness of a waynerd superceeds EVERYTHING for quite some time after DDays and exposure - in my observation. Zel, yer legs need waxing.
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This is wrong, IMO. Piling on with cruel words that will forever haunt someone is adding insult to injury. Why would words from someone who is temporarily or permanently crazy haunt someone forever? Such things should be dismissed as lunacy if they are untrue, and addressed if true. Normal people do not inflict this type of damage, IMO> What is normal?
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For many of them, selfishness is a way of life, not neccessarily just manifested in the affair. That is why the vast majority of relationships touched by infidelity dissolve. The WS simply does not have it n him or her to do the work to change.
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This is wrong, IMO. Piling on with cruel words that will forever haunt someone is adding insult to injury. Why would words from someone who is temporarily or permanently crazy haunt someone forever? Such things should be dismissed as lunacy if they are untrue, and addressed if true. Normal people do not inflict this type of damage, IMO> What is normal? Almost no WS is diagnosable with a mental illness. Just like , IMO, alcoholism as a disease is simply the result of a strong lobby in Congress. These folks make active, concious choices to do and say the things they do. Those choices show us their underlying character. They can change if they want to. Many do not. Often, they expect those damaged by their harmful choices to underwrite their "recovery". It is BS.
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>The WS simply does not have it n him or her to do the work to change.
A lot of them give up before they even try because the task is so daunting.
The Wookie tried to give up. I'm too dayum stubborn fer that.
Try orajel before the waxing. It helps.
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It's a setting on my dryer.
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Well, I hope the Wookie cleaned up his act and did not try to blame his crap on something like "the fog" or whatever little crapola concept some waywards come up with to explain their abuse.
Do I use that oragel rectally?
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Thanks, Mrs W. At least I am not in their presence, anymore. I was regaled with descriptions of the OM, like PSU. They are miscreants.
I guess I subscribe to the belief that in order to go down this cheating road, a person has to be funadamentally different than a normal, caring human being. I feel the same way about alcoholics, as Ihave dealt with several in my life. Thye are just fundamentally wired differently, IMO, so as to make them capable of this stuff in the first place. You are very welcome...I have great empathy for what you've endured, Zelmo...Sadly, I know firsthand how horrible waywards are... I do think you are wrong that waywards are wired differently though...However, I would have felt the same as you if I hadn't lived it myself...I would have argued vehemently that I would never cheat... What I know now is that EVERYONE must have a PLAN (EPs)in order not to be susceptible...That we are ALL susceptible to TEMPTATION and the commitment must be to never place yourself in temptation's way...Will power is unreliable... I do understand why you view this the way you do... Mrs. W
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It's a setting on my dryer. What you got there asetting on your dryer, boy?
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