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Got more time on your hands, Fred? Can you compare it to maybe one of GW's SoU's and one of Clinton's?
I'm really curious. Oh, what the heck. This is the count from George W. Bush's 2007 SOTU: - Total words = 5588
- "I" = 33 occurrences
- "I've" = 2 occurrences
- "me" = 1 occurrence
- "my" = 4 occurrences
- "our" = 79 occurrences
- "ours" = 1 occurrence
- "ourselves" = 2 occurrences
- "we" = 104 occurrences
- "we'll" = 1 occurrence
- "we're" = 6 occurrences
- "we've" = 5 occurrences
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It's possible that all presidents do this, but H was telling me they did a poll of certain words to see how they made the American public feel before they wrote the speech - words like restore, renew, etc. Very interesting. Wonder how much it cost to poll all those people?
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I fell asleep, but I finally understand what the Bush haters felt, having him as President. I trusted Clinton professionally, but not personally; I trusted Bush both professionally and personally, and I trust Obama...well...not at all.
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Fred..thanks for that...confirms what I'd thought. Don't feel obligated to spend the time, but if you're bored and you want to run Clinton's speech through...LOL I'm guessing we'll see about the same results as we saw for W's SOTU address.
Here's an interesting factoid:
Obama on Government: "We need our Government to fix our problems"
Regan on Government: "Government *is* our problem"
Clinton on Government: "This is the end of an era of big Government".
Who seems out of step with not only his own party but the world at large?
BTW, there are some pundits out there who are venturing an opinion that GW Bush will someday be viewed as one of the truly great presidents.
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Regan on Government: "Government *is* our problem" I LOVED Regan. He was the "Walk softly but carry a big stick" kind of president. He made me proud to be an American.
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Obama on Government: "We need our Government to fix our problems" I'm shocked a Marxist would say that! 
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I just got into a huge argument with my (very liberal...read: ENTITLED) sister. I changed my facebook profile pic to a sign that has one of my favorite quotes of Thomas Jefferson's.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have."
She went ballistic and just lit into me on FB!
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I just got into a huge argument with my (very liberal...read: ENTITLED) sister. I changed my facebook profile pic to a sign that has one of my favorite quotes of Thomas Jefferson's.
"A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take away everything you have."
She went ballistic and just lit into me on FB! But it's Jefferson, for goodness sake.
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She's already drunk the Kool-Aid and is a full-blown Obot. Lit into me for my (I thought very accurate) comments on the SoU speech, too. Blames Bush for all our problems. Got ticked off when I mentioned Barney Frank was head of the finance committee that enacted legislation to force banks to make bad loans.
And then our discussion went downhill from there.
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How dare you bring facts into the discussion. 
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Back by popular demand: President Bill Clinton's SOTU speech, 1999: - Total words = 7552
- "I" = 92 occurrences
- "I'd" = 9 occurrences
- "me" = 8 occurrences
- "my" = 9 occurrences
- "our" = 162 occurrences
- "we" = 171 occurrences
- "we're" = 2 occurrences
- "we've" = 3 occurrences
- "you" = 69 occurrences
- "you're" = 1 occurrence
Given the three presidents compared, Clinton comes out as the most narcissistic, Bush the least. Purely an unscientific exercise, if anyone cares.
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Interesting! Of course, Clinton's SOTU was so long ago so maybe I wasn't as aware of it. It just seemed so over the top watching Obama. I would have thought his speech would have claimed victory in this little contest.
Thanks Fred!
ETA: I guess we left out ratio. Can't do it now because I don't have time...but I need to go back and divide the number of words by the number of first person references.
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I guess we left out ratio. Can't do it now because I don't have time...but I need to go back and divide the number of words by the number of first person references. LOL! I'm going to leave that to you, OurHouse. I've done my share of the heavy lifting at this point. 
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